zsun reported a new issue against the project: `ambassadors-apac` that you are following:
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This is a sponsor request for swags in China.
We have run out of swags by the end of 2016. Luckily we did not have any events this year so this doesn't matter a lot. Now I hear we will have a postponed SFD event in Tsinghua University in October 21st which is a joined event with other communities so more people are expected. As the swag coordinator in China I am writing to request sponsorship for making swags.
Current plan is to still make some key ring or pin with Fedora logo. I am requesting USD 100 this time and then deal with the vendors for a better bulk production price. Currently I get a reference as around 0.4 USD per piece without postage. So with USD 100 we could make a little more than 200 pieces. The SFD in Tsinghua will consume about 100 pieces so the remaining will be used in other ad-hoc events.
This won't be enough to cover the upcoming Fedora 27 release party so I might request swags for that when we are planning for it.
Wiki Page: No. As this is a general swag request and the swags will go into the SFD events and ad-hoc events.
Summary:
USD 100 for about 200 pieces of Fedora pin.
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gnokii added a new comment to an issue you are following:
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> @pnemade @sayanchowdhury I dont care if PJP reads regularly the fedora-india list, I care more when Indians start to care more about other Asians. And that starts in not promoting people because they are Indians as more it are the right people for the job.
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> I will reply only to this part as it is addressed to me. @gnokii my comment was based on few below facts that I want you to know first
> 1) I do not auto join #fedora-apac channel but whenever I joined I have not found all the active APAC ambassadors there.
> 2) I am not having access to apac ambassadors mailing list so I do not know what discussions are there going.
> 3) All I am active on this ambassadors-apac project/trac where I can read/reply to all the tickets.
> 4) Recently If I look back only @pjp has shown interest to chair the apac ambassadors bi-weekly meetings. I see @zsun was also active sometimes.
> 5) I have rarely seen @gnokii or @izhar or any other long time old ambassador in apac in bi-weekly apac meetings.
> 6) For any issues where I saw India users/contributors needed help be it on mailing list or on this project/trac, @pjp always helped them, hence I mentioned he is active on fedora-india list.
> So based on above observation tell me why should I not recommend @pjp? Why you see mentioning fedora-india as a reference here is a careless thing for you??
> I would like to know from you, @gnokii to please provide here references for your comment "I care more when Indians start to care more about other Asians."
I give you an answer, but first of all you should think a bit about the time when the meeting is maybe you figure something out, not to mention that APAC is a bit bigger and has a lot of time zones.
How would be you going through the logfiles and recognize that whenever a not-indian comes with something that there is discussion and for indians is mostly approved without any discussion.
Not to mention what happens when there is swag produced, it must be India, the media are the best example, we tried to cooperate with EMEA and of course the DVD was a bit more expensive but that is way better as the "cheap" indian ones, which are not pressed it are burned ones and each 3rd isnt booting to the desktop. Not to mention that production of the things is discussed on india list but other APAC people seems to have no saying in it!
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pnemade added a new comment to an issue you are following:
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> 2) I am not having access to apac ambassadors mailing list so I do not know what discussions are there going.
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> We don't have a APAC specific ambassador mailing list. the APAC list was created to be an easy way of receiving APAC tickets before.
Oh then that must be the main ambassadors list I was referencing here. I mistakenly considered that as apac-ambassadors list. Thank you for correcting me here.
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> 4) Recently If I look back only @pjp has shown interest to chair the apac ambassadors bi-weekly meetings. I see @zsun was also active sometimes.
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> I am not really active (from APAC Ambassador perspective) for the past a year and a half due to time commitment.
> I try not to be involved into this ticket before, as I am already struggling with Fedora in China, with limited free time I cannot guarantee any commitment to APAC.
Sorry to here that. Hope you will find some time for Fedora again in future.
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zsun added a new comment to an issue you are following:
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> 2) I am not having access to apac ambassadors mailing list so I do not know what discussions are there going.
We *don't* have a APAC specific ambassador mailing list. the APAC list was created to be an easy way of receiving APAC tickets before.
> 4) Recently If I look back only @pjp has shown interest to chair the apac ambassadors bi-weekly meetings. I see @zsun was also active sometimes.
I am *not* really active (from APAC Ambassador perspective) for the past a year and a half due to time commitment.
I try not to be involved into this ticket before, as I am already struggling with Fedora in China, with limited free time I cannot guarantee any commitment to APAC.
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pnemade added a new comment to an issue you are following:
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> @pnemade @sayanchowdhury I dont care if PJP reads regularly the fedora-india list, I care more when Indians start to care more about other Asians. And that starts in not promoting people because they are Indians as more it are the right people for the job.
I will reply only to this part as it is addressed to me. @gnokii my comment was based on few below facts that I want you to know first
1) I do not auto join #fedora-apac channel but whenever I joined I have not found all the active APAC ambassadors there.
2) I am not having access to apac ambassadors mailing list so I do not know what discussions are there going.
3) All I am active on this ambassadors-apac project/trac where I can read/reply to all the tickets.
4) Recently If I look back only @pjp has shown interest to chair the apac ambassadors bi-weekly meetings. I see @zsun was also active sometimes.
5) I have rarely seen @gnokii or @izhar or any other long time old ambassador in apac in bi-weekly apac meetings.
6) For any issues where I saw India users/contributors needed help be it on mailing list or on this project/trac, @pjp always helped them, hence I mentioned he is active on fedora-india list.
So based on above observation tell me why should I not recommend @pjp? Why you see mentioning fedora-india as a reference here is a careless thing for you??
I would like to know from you, @gnokii to please provide here references for your comment "I care more when Indians start to care more about other Asians."
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zsun added a new comment to an issue you are following:
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> Again as soon as it is bundled to a Chinese mobile number, it should be bundled to a Chinese ID card, and that ID behind the account cannot change. Even if it is registered to be a 'Company' account, it should be bundled to an individual ID as the de facto operator.
Ah I see why people are still thinking of using Chinese mobile. By the time I submit the ticket, it is still possible to just bundle to a mobile number. But now it asks a Chinese ID in addition to a Chinese mobile number.
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The status of the issue: `Active Fedoraproject Weibo account by mobile number` of project: `ambassadors-apac` has been updated to: Closed as Invalid by zsun.
https://pagure.io/ambassadors-apac/issue/266
zsun added a new comment to an issue you are following:
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Again as soon as it is bundled to a Chinese mobile number, it should be bundled to a Chinese ID card, and that ID behind the account cannot change. Even if it is registered to be a 'Company' account, it should be bundled to an individual ID as the de facto operator.
I will drop this ticket as WON'TFIX since there is never anything useful till now for the past 3 months.
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gnokii added a new comment to an issue you are following:
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> I agree we need someone to share responsibility with @izhar .
> I was the APAC budget treasurer in 3-4 years and I know it's time consuming job.
we quoting you here from KUL, "I am not the treasurer" thats why izhar has currently both roles, we discussed in KUL also if that has consequences and could bring conflicts and the answer to that is NO, as the CC holder has not to ask the treasurer to spent money, see EMEA.
> I think we should let @izhar keep CC. You know, giving a CC to another person is a time wasting task. In the past, we need months to assign a CC to him.
keep the feet on the floor. We agreed also in KUL to get another CC for pjp for paying the media and swag production. Have not seen you taking action for that. Was just me, I went to Joe and asked for it and he told me, pjp shall use his RH CC for it, well Joe forgot that they dont have such ones for RH India.
So looks for a thing @bex might solve, the process of centralizing swag and media production is not an new idea and was initiated already but bringing it to a full run is a stony way and makes no process through such small things like Joes answer. Not to mention that the distribution still sucks.
@pnemade @sayanchowdhury I dont care if PJP reads regularly the fedora-india list, I care more when Indians start to care more about other Asians. And that starts in not promoting people because they are Indians as more it are the right people for the job.
> So it's easier to assign a new budget treasurer. We need a volunteer. I can share my experience to him/her at anytime.
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gnokii added a new comment to an issue you are following:
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> @zsun I am trying to find a third option here.
third option RH office Beijing buys a mobile number and gets legally responsible for it ;) Or is it forbidden for cooperations in China to own mobile numbers?
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