duffy added a new comment to an issue you are following: `` Sometimes discussions that go downhill because of a misunderstanding can be put back on track. It seems this was dragged down all around.
Since we're airing it all here altho thats probably not the most productive way fwd....
There are some valid concerns here:
- Missing data : how many new ambassadors - Missing data : context for t shirt need - Concern : ambassadors who have been around more than a year not having t shirts - trying to track down who needs one - Concern : were spending more money instead of using resources we already have - Concern: a discussion about this issue is happening elsewhere and isnt linked to here in the ticket for better context in fulfilling it - Concern: as new ambassadors come on board inventory data isnt being shared or tracked in a consistent and discoverable way - Concern: volunteers being demanded to do things
Instead of focusing on solving some of these problems there is a continual back and forth of tone policing and he said she said in *multiple* directions.
Yet behind the scenes despite all this public airing of grievances gnokii is informed privately hes banned from fedora for a lengthy period of time bc of this ticket? Ia that how we resolve conflict now?
I have said my piece multiple times about concerns around wastefulness in terms of both spending and the environment on swag. I wont reiterate that. But it is 2018, ambassadors have been working with swag inventory for a long time. Ambassadors need to focus on managing inventory if - as it seems from concerns raised here - this isnt managed centrally and isnt kept updated. If this ticket was filed under design teams tracker - no offense to anyone, we may have a very different style of ticket management but i suspect from the back and forth here theres disagreement as to ambassadors ticket process - this ticket does not have enough data to be actionable. If inventory was managed well it wouldnt have been as necessary.
I get that Sirkos tone was blunt to start but it didnt go downhill until it was assumed to be offensive, and you lead him down that path. Sirko is an extremely talented and motivated volunteer in Fedora and if you could figure out how to harness his passion and energy instead of assuming the worst and pushing him down a spiral like this you would have a powerfull ally.
In the future if you have a concern about Sirko please reach out to me privately.
I also get btw we cant be perfect in everything, but why dont we try to be better. ``
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