Fedora Astronomy SIG Meeting 28-12-2007
- Introductions of members and short introduction of the project itself.
(Prepare few lines of text to introduce yourself).
- Packages. Who can help?
- Should we use a specific artwork for the spin? Or only a wallpaper?
- Scheduling the spin building
- Free discussion, mind storming
Friday, January 11, 2008 at 14:00:00 UTC
14:41 marek hey, who's around?
14:42 Telimektar Michael Ughetto
14:42 * marek Marek Mahut
14:42 marek we will wait 5 minutes for others
14:42 marek if anyone comes :)
14:42 Telimektar ok
14:46 marek anyone from Fedora Astronomy project except
14:47 sergiopr > [n=sergiopr(a)188.8.131.52] joins #fedora-meeting
14:47 marek ah sergiopr :)
14:47 marek welcome
14:47 sergiopr thanks
14:47 marek let me introduce myself
14:48 marek My name is Marek Mahut and I'm working as sysadmin in
one big software company. And I have plans to study astrophysics next year.
14:48 marek I've founded Fedora astronomy SIG to increase
astronomy support in Fedora.
14:48 marek I have a lot of projects in my head, but not much
time, for that I need your valuable help. :)
14:48 marek Primary project should be Fedora Astronomy Live spin,
which should be Fedora 9 live cd ready to use for any astronomer.
14:48 marek :)
14:48 marek Telimektar: can you introduce yourself please?
14:49 Telimektar Micha"el Ughetto, 20 years, France, Physics student,
french translator, actually learning packaging, interested in simulation
14:50 marek ok thank you Telimektar
14:50 marek sergiopr: can you introduce yourself please?
14:50 sergiopr My name is Sergio Pascual, I work in the Astrophisics
Departament, Madrid University
14:51 sergiopr I have a a Ph.D in Astrophysics and I'm interested in
tools por the profesional astronomer
14:52 marek thank you :)
14:52 sergiopr And I'm studying software engeniering
14:52 sergiopr thats all
14:52 marek anyone else interested in Fedora Astronomy SIG?
14:53 marek ok, next topic
14:53 marek changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: Fedora Astronomy
SIG -- Packages. Who can help?
14:53 marek I need help of developers packaging software from our
14:53 marek if you do, please cc fedora-astronomy-list on the
review request or let me know
14:54 marek there are 48 packages waiting in proposed list
14:54 marek I guess at least half of it is old and unmaintained,
so we need to clean up the list
14:55 marek sergiopr, Telimektar how many packages could you take
from that list?
14:55 marek it's also ok to only make package and I will take
full responsiblity of maintaining it
14:55 Telimektar i'm actually learning packaging and i'm awaiting for
14:55 marek just like did lkundrak (thanks to him)
14:56 sergiopr I don't have so much time ATM, but I'm working on an
14:56 marek Telimektar: oh nice, this is great occasion for you
-- you can make packages that you can show to your sponsor after
14:56 marek Telimektar: I suggests you do to about 5 packages and
about 5 review request and ask someone to sponsor you, if you will have
hard to find someone let me know
14:57 marek sergiopr: ok, good -- can I add your named with
14:57 marek sergiopr: you already did ds9, which is very
14:57 sergiopr It was a lot of work :)
14:58 marek I saw the rpm, very good work!
14:58 sergiopr I'm adding my name to eso midas in the package list
14:58 marek sergiopr: ok thank you
14:58 Telimektar If there's easy to package software, please tell me
14:58 marek Telimektar: check the list, I'm sure that there's
something easy to do
14:59 marek Telimektar: but your sponsor will be looking at more
difficult packages, to be sure you know how to package in right way :)
15:00 marek ok, if no other on-topic issues, let's move
15:00 marek changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: Fedora Astronomy
SIG -- Should we use a specific artwork for the spin? Or only a wallpaper?
15:00 marek this is an interesting topic
15:01 marek later, I would like to ask our great art team to
create a wallpaper for us along with a icon
15:01 marek as I would have a menu called "Astronomy" in the spin
15:01 Telimektar It's necessary I think
15:01 marek and also a little logo :)
15:02 marek Telimektar: I think too, it's a good marketing ;)
15:02 Telimektar to help people to see what's specific to this spin
15:02 Telimektar As wallpaper, i have noticed the work make on this
page but was refused for F8
15:03 marek I was thinking about a photo of nebula or so
15:03 Telimektar http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F8theme-moon
15:03 marek Telimektar: yes, this is nice, but it's only a scratch
15:03 marek do we have a wallpaper of that?
15:03 G_ > [n=njones@wikipedia/NigelJ] joins #fedora-meeting
15:04 sergiopr very nice artwork
15:04 Telimektar it's only a mockup but i'm sur that the former
designer will be happy to work on it
15:04 marek we will ask art team if they can include our
wallpaper by default in Fedora 9
15:04 Telimektar ok
15:04 marek so we don't have to make separate package for that
15:04 marek Telimektar: ok, I will contact the designer to ask if
he can send us the wallpaper
15:04 Telimektar so what's the work to be done on that point ?
15:05 marek I think it can wait months or two
15:05 marek the work is to,
15:05 marek 1) mail art team and kindly asking for an icon and a logo
15:06 marek 2) ask former designer if he likes to send us the
wallpaper, if so let's ask art team to include the wallpaper in Fedora 9
15:06 Telimektar ok
15:06 Telimektar who can take it in charge ?
15:07 marek I can take care of it
15:07 Telimektar ok
15:07 marek I will mail the designer of that theme today
15:07 marek but I'll wait some time to contact art team
15:07 marek ok, next topic?
15:08 Telimektar y
15:08 marek changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: Fedora Astronomy
SIG -- Scheduling the spin building.
15:08 marek my plan is:
15:09 marek 1) package as much as good software possible
15:09 marek 2) package astronomy-menu -- something like
games-menu that will regroup all our applications under nice "Astronomy"
15:09 marek it's a simple xml file
15:09 marek 3) package astronomy-bookmarks --
15:10 marek - we won't package art work, as the plan is to
include it Fedora 9 default artwork package
15:10 marek 4) request project on fedorahosted.org
, cvs using trac
15:11 marek there we can star working on the kickstart file that
will become our live cd
15:11 Telimektar Is there any date to perform those steps ?
15:11 f13 fedorahosted doesn't support cvs
15:11 marek f13: svn then =)
15:12 f13 if you have to...
15:12 marek (I'm sure Jesse loves GIT) ;)
15:12 marek Telimektar: no not yet, I think the hard work is the
15:12 marek other can be done in few days
15:13 Telimektar ok
15:13 marek I would like to have everything ready by first of april
15:13 marek _and_ I will be working to have this spin for Fedora
15:13 marek there are a lot of things to improve
15:13 marek CCD support, telescope communication support
15:14 Telimektar upstream work would be welcome for moste of these
software I think
15:14 marek Telimektar: exactly
15:14 marek and, I was in touch with scope vendor bresser, there
is a possibility they include our Live CD with their scope for free
15:14 marek if everything's ok
15:15 Telimektar good job marek
15:15 marek but I plan this for Fedora 10, it will be too early
for Fedora 9
15:15 marek also, webcam support!
15:15 marek I had in mind system-config-webcam :)
15:15 sergiopr cool
15:16 Telimektar lot of work in perspective
15:16 marek I'm pretty sure we will find other people to help us
15:16 marek for example sergio's students =) he can give it as
homework for them ;)
15:16 marek (kidding)
15:17 sergiopr I'm afraid I don't have students :(
15:17 marek sergiopr: ok, so colleagues ;)
15:17 sergiopr Bur perhaps I can cheat my collegues' students :)
15:17 marek ok I feel like we are reaching the free discussion :)
15:18 marek changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: Fedora Astronomy
SIG -- Free discussion, mindstorming
15:18 marek sergiopr: good idea ;)
15:18 marek next year I'm starting my studies of astrophysics at
scientific university in Brno (sci.muni.cz)
15:18 marek so I could push something too
15:18 sergiopr marek, very good, I told it's never too late
15:18 Telimektar question : the spin will use kde or gnome ?
15:19 marek sergiopr: I took your word ;)
15:19 marek Telimektar: gnome I think, it's the easier way
15:19 marek I have no experiance with KDE
15:20 sergiopr How many GUI applications have we got?
15:20 marek https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/Astronomy/Packages
15:20 marek for the moment I see only one console based
15:20 marek others (about 14?) are GUI
15:21 sergiopr And what widget library are they using? ds9, for
example, is tcl, so I doesn't matter if the spin is gnome or kde-based
15:22 Telimektar i'm afraid of the use of too muche libs
15:22 Telimektar the RAM won't like ti
15:22 Telimektar it*
15:22 marek yes
15:22 marek I'm gnome user and I think for standard tasks it's ok
15:23 marek Telimektar, sergiopr do you prefere KDE?
15:23 sergiopr marek, I prefer gnome
15:23 Telimektar I'm a kde user but I do not care, I think we should
15:24 Telimektar and that a light environment like xfce can also be a
15:25 marek I tried the Fedora live cd and gnome has been pretty
fast on usb stick/1Ghz/256M ram
15:25 Telimektar personnaly it's the loading of skymap that's i'm
15:26 marek from my point of view, we should concentrate more on
packages first and discuss this later
15:26 marek Telimektar: ok, we can do some test when everything
15:26 Telimektar of course
15:26 marek and after choose the desktop env.
15:28 marek ok, so tasks:
15:28 marek marek -- find out more about that wallpaper from
former author and contact ART team + standard packaging
15:29 marek Telimektar -- try to make few packages, so that you
can get cvsextras,
15:30 marek sergiopr -- if some free time, try to finish ESO-MIDAS
15:30 marek everybody -- collect some cool links for
15:30 sergiopr I'm adding a few things right now
15:31 marek everybody -- packages! packages! packages! :) not
only creating but also, try to find some other neat software that would
be nice to have in Fedora
15:31 Telimektar ok
15:31 sergiopr ok
15:31 marek anything else you would like to discuss?
15:32 Telimektar has the fesco decided if spins are a feature ?
15:32 marek Telimektar: last time I've checked no
15:32 Telimektar ok
15:33 marek but I prefere to keep it as project, as future
developement is pretty sure
15:33 marek so we can go on with Fedora 10, 11, 12 ... 46... :)
15:33 Telimektar and on and on
15:33 marek =)
15:34 Telimektar also can we use the #fedora-astronomy to discuss
(when not in meeting )
15:34 marek actually, I'm on ##astronomy channel
15:34 marek there are nice people there :)
15:35 Telimektar it's ok for me
15:35 sergiopr And for me also
15:35 marek ok good
15:36 marek so next meeting is fixed on Friday, January 11, 2008
at 14:00:00 UTC time
15:36 marek is it ok too?
15:36 Telimektar ok too
15:36 sergiopr Ok too
15:37 marek ok, thank you guys for coming and have a nice day!
15:37 Telimektar you too :)
15:37 sergiopr And a happy new year! :)
15:37 marek ;)
15:38 Telimektar with ful of free software
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