dustymabe reported a new issue against the project: `atomic-wg` that you are following: `` We've had a few discussions about including `cri-o` in atomic host and one [recently](https://pagure.io/atomic-wg/issue/407) discussing both `cri-o` and `podman`. The consensus on `cri-o` was that if someone needs to get openshift/kubernetes then it's not that much harder to also get `cri-o` as part of the same process (for example, using the `openshift-ansible` installer).
`podman`, however, is something we could consider adding because it gives us a nice familiar CLI with possibly less bloat. `podman` is brand new and there is still some work to be done on it. It was decided that we should evaluate adding `podman` into atomic host in a few months time. This was proposed at the [feb 7th WG meeting](https://lists.projectatomic.io/projectatomic-archives/atomic-devel/2018-Febr...). ``
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baude added a new comment to an issue you are following: `` I would be happy to help with this as well. ``
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smilner added a new comment to an issue you are following: `` Thanks @baude! ``
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smilner added a new comment to an issue you are following: `` We should bring this up in our next meeting. As to if this should be in the OSTree compose or if it should be added on someway. From a conversation I just had it was noted that ``podman`` invokes ``buildah`` in some cases. ``
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mrguitar added a new comment to an issue you are following: `` @baude, right now we're on a path to consume buildah via a container on atomic host. I this having podman in the compose makes sense, but I see some issues with `podman build. Any thoughts? ``
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mrguitar added a new comment to an issue you are following: `` oh, what @smilner said. :) ``
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baude added a new comment to an issue you are following: `` As of now, podman can live without buildah. I believe the build command is not displayed if no buildah is found. Though this does complicate things. Is buildah going to be put in a container due to size restrictions ? ``
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smilner added a new comment to an issue you are following: `` Binary/content size is a factor when adding new things to the compose. ``buildah`` was put into a container just so it wouldn't be yet another thing added to the base while still allowing people to use it. If we were to move to putting these both into the compose it would be ideal for them to share any common code via a buildmode of ``plugin`` or ``c-shared`` to keep reused code from increasing the base image size if possible. ``
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baude added a new comment to an issue you are following: `` We are currently working on more code usage between podman, buildah, and crio. ``
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smilner added a new comment to an issue you are following: `` @baude / @mrguitar: @dustymabe asked in today's meeting if podman was stable enough to be included as well as if it would interact with docker in any way. ``
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smilner added a new comment to an issue you are following: `` ``` 12:58:29 dustymabe | another question.. how does it interact with docker if they are both installed? 12:58:45 dustymabe | I say first step.. add it to rawhide 12:58:53 dustymabe | I'm not opposed to doing that today 12:58:54 jbrooks | layered, rebooted, and "podman run centos echo foo" works :) 13:00:05 ashcrow | dustymabe: I threw the questions in the issue, but there should be no side effects with docker 13:00:12 walters | I'm +1 to adding to AH by default 13:00:15 jlebon | how about: ask devs if they think it's ready for wider consumption, if yes, add to rawhide 13:00:36 ashcrow | That sounds good to me 13:00:40 walters | one of the biggest things you'll note is it doesn't share image storage with docker 13:00:57 jbrooks | It's in the fedora repos 13:01:04 jbrooks | So it's already considered that stable 13:01:14 jbrooks | easily stable enough to just stick it in rawide 13:01:16 jbrooks | hide 13:01:32 mheon | jbrooks: i feel obligated to note that we are officially alpha, but i would say we are definitely rawhide level stable ``` ``
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dustymabe added a new comment to an issue you are following: `` I think this is something we can put in rawhide today. ``
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The issue: `Evaluate podman for inclusion in atomic host` of project: `atomic-wg` has been assigned to `smilner` by smilner.
smilner added a new comment to an issue you are following: `` I'll look at getting this into rawhide. ``
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smilner added a new comment to an issue you are following: `` https://pagure.io/fedora-atomic/pull-request/117 ``
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smilner added a new comment to an issue you are following: `` The PR has merged and ``podman`` should be added in the next rawhide compose. ``
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smilner added a new comment to an issue you are following: `` @baude noted that he was able to test podman in a rawhide compose and things worked well. :grinning: ``
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dustymabe added a new comment to an issue you are following: `` Assuming
- podman doesn't break existing Docker workflows - it doesn't pull in buildah as a dep
Should we add podman to Atomic Host for f28? ``
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jlebon added a new comment to an issue you are following: `` That sounds good to me! ``
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jasonbrooks added a new comment to an issue you are following: ``
Assuming
podman doesn't break existing Docker workflows it doesn't pull in buildah as a dep
Should we add podman to Atomic Host for f28?
+1 ``
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sanja added a new comment to an issue you are following: `` +1 for adding podman ``
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miabbott added a new comment to an issue you are following: ``
Assuming
podman doesn't break existing Docker workflows it doesn't pull in buildah as a dep
``` # rpm-ostree install podman Checking out tree ba63713... done Enabled rpm-md repositories: updates-testing updates fedora rpm-md repo 'updates-testing' (cached); generated: 2018-04-10 22:36:28 rpm-md repo 'updates' (cached); generated: 2018-02-20 19:18:14 rpm-md repo 'fedora' (cached); generated: 2018-04-10 21:11:42
Importing metadata [=============] 100% Resolving dependencies... done Will download: 3 packages (19.8 MB)
Downloading from updates-testing: [=============] 100%
Importing (3/3) [=============] 100% Applying 4 overlays
Building filesystem (4/4) [=============] 100% Running pre scripts... 0 done Running post scripts... 7 done Writing rpmdb... done Writing OSTree commit... done Copying /etc changes: 20 modified, 0 removed, 57 added Transaction complete; bootconfig swap: no deployment count change: 0 Added: buildah-0.16-1.git82529cd.fc28.x86_64 containernetworking-cni-0.6.0-4.fc28.x86_64 podman-0.4.1-1.gitb51d327.fc28.x86_64 Run "systemctl reboot" to start a reboot ```
Well, `buildah` does get dragged in. The on disk size of the `buildah` binary is 12M.
In [406](https://pagure.io/atomic-wg/issue/406) we settled on using a `buildah` container image, just 2 months ago, but that doesn't mean we can't change our minds.
I'm +1 for including both `podman` and `buildah` if we have to. ``
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baude added a new comment to an issue you are following: `` I am working to sever that dependency. should know next week if I can make that happen. ``
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smilner added a new comment to an issue you are following: ``
In 406 we settled on using a buildah container image, just 2 months ago, but that doesn't mean we can't change our minds.
I'm +1 for including both podman and buildah if we have to.
I second this ``
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dustymabe added a new comment to an issue you are following: `` right now buildah is also pulled in via deps.
``` [root@vanilla-f28-atomic ~]# dnf install podman | tee Last metadata expiration check: 0:01:11 ago on Wed 11 Apr 2018 06:56:02 PM UTC. Dependencies resolved. ================================================================================ Package Arch Version Repository Size ================================================================================ Installing: podman x86_64 0.4.1-1.gitb51d327.fc28 updates-testing 5.5 M Installing dependencies: buildah x86_64 0.16-1.git82529cd.fc28 updates-testing 3.7 M containernetworking-cni x86_64 0.6.0-4.fc28 updates-testing 9.7 M
Transaction Summary ================================================================================ Install 3 Packages
Total download size: 19 M Installed size: 65 M Is this ok [y/N]: N Operation aborted. ```
so download size is 19M and installed size is 65M ``
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The status of the issue: `Evaluate podman for inclusion in atomic host` of project: `atomic-wg` has been updated to: Closed as Fixed by dustymabe.
dustymabe added a new comment to an issue you are following: `` This was added to f28AH: https://pagure.io/fedora-atomic/pull-request/118
Updating this issue to closed ``
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