#361: Badge Request: Fedora Atomic -------------------------------------+------------------------------------- Reporter: | Owner: jzb | Status: new Type: | Keywords: New badge idea | Has a description: 0 Priority: | Artwork status: None minor | External requirements: Has a name: | Triaged (triagers only): 0 0 | Concept approved (reviewers only): | 0 | Badge definition status: | None | Manually awarded: | 0 | -------------------------------------+------------------------------------- A lot of folks have contributed work to enable the Fedora Atomic Host from the Fedora Cloud edition. I'd like to have a badge that we can award to people who've made contributions that have helped make it happen and work on continued improvement.
I'm thinking something like "Atomizer" or "Fedora Atomic Scientist" -- would like to stay away from any "splitting the atom" metaphors. :-) I can provide SVGs of the Project Atomic logo if that would be helpful.
#361: Badge Request: Fedora Atomic -------------------------------------+------------------------------------- Reporter: jzb | Owner: Type: New badge | Status: idea | new Priority: minor | Resolution: Keywords: | Has a name: Has a description: 0 | 0 Artwork status: None | Concept approved (reviewers only): External requirements: | 0 Triaged (triagers only): 0 | Badge definition status: | None | Manually awarded: | 0 -------------------------------------+-------------------------------------
Comment (by riecatnor):
@jzb, providing the svgs of the logo would be very helpful, thank you.
#361: Badge Request: Fedora Atomic -------------------------------------+------------------------------------- Reporter: jzb | Owner: Type: New badge | Status: idea | new Priority: minor | Resolution: Keywords: | Has a name: Has a description: 0 | 0 Artwork status: None | Concept approved (reviewers only): External requirements: | 0 Triaged (triagers only): 0 | Badge definition status: | None | Manually awarded: | 0 -------------------------------------+-------------------------------------
Comment (by riecatnor):
Concept: Atomic logo resting in the clouds (without black bg)
#361: Badge Request: Fedora Atomic -------------------------------------+------------------------------------- Reporter: jzb | Owner: Type: New badge | Status: idea | new Priority: minor | Resolution: Keywords: | Has a name: Has a description: 0 | 0 Artwork status: None | Concept approved (reviewers only): External requirements: | 0 Triaged (triagers only): 0 | Badge definition status: | None | Manually awarded: | 0 -------------------------------------+-------------------------------------
Comment (by kylerconway):
Replying to [comment:2 riecatnor]:
Concept: Atomic logo resting in the clouds (without black bg)
Maybe the Atomic logo is on a beaker below the cloud (i.e. ''creating'' the cloud). Would love to tackle this (I'm new here).
#361: Badge Request: Fedora Atomic -------------------------------------+------------------------------------- Reporter: jzb | Owner: Type: New badge | Status: idea | new Priority: minor | Resolution: Keywords: | Has a name: Has a description: 0 | 0 Artwork status: None | Concept approved (reviewers only): External requirements: | 0 Triaged (triagers only): 0 | Badge definition status: | None | Manually awarded: | 0 -------------------------------------+-------------------------------------
Comment (by kylerconway):
This goes off of the "Atomizer" or "Fedora Atomic Scientist" idea.
[[Image(https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-badges/raw-attachment/ticket/361 /atomic-badge-draft.png)]]
#361: Badge Request: Fedora Atomic -------------------------------------+------------------------------------- Reporter: jzb | Owner: Type: New badge | Status: idea | new Priority: minor | Resolution: Keywords: | Has a name: Has a description: 0 | 0 Artwork status: None | Concept approved (reviewers only): External requirements: | 0 Triaged (triagers only): 0 | Badge definition status: | None | Manually awarded: | 0 -------------------------------------+------------------------------------- Changes (by kylerconway):
* cc: kyle.r.conway@… (added)
#361: Badge Request: Fedora Atomic -------------------------------------+------------------------------------- Reporter: jzb | Owner: Type: New badge | Status: idea | new Priority: minor | Resolution: Keywords: | Has a name: Has a description: 0 | 0 Artwork status: None | Concept approved (reviewers only): External requirements: | 0 Triaged (triagers only): 0 | Badge definition status: | None | Manually awarded: | 0 -------------------------------------+-------------------------------------
Comment (by riecatnor):
Hey! great start :)
The concept works, the artwork just needs a little work to meet the badge guidelines. Make your beaker a bit more stylized. Take out the bubbles, and little lines. Make the stroke thicker, at least 1.5 but probably closer to 3. Examples: http://www.clipartbest.com/cliparts/di7/o86/di7o86MkT.svg http://www.clipartbest.com/cliparts/MTL/RKr/MTLRKrGTa.png
Try making the bottom of the beaker a little bit less wide, so you can center it more.
Thanks!!
#361: Badge Request: Fedora Atomic -------------------------------------+------------------------------------- Reporter: jzb | Owner: Type: New badge | Status: idea | new Priority: minor | Resolution: Keywords: | Has a name: Has a description: 0 | 0 Artwork status: Proposed | Concept approved (reviewers only): External requirements: | 0 Triaged (triagers only): 1 | Badge definition status: | None | Manually awarded: | 0 -------------------------------------+------------------------------------- Changes (by jflory7):
* triaged: 0 => 1 * has_artwork: None => Proposed
Comment:
**Discussed in [https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora- meeting-1/2016-11-02/fedora_badges.2016-11-02-11.05.html 2016-10-03 meeting].**
I'm curious, is there any way that we're able to automate the awarding of this badge? Repos on Pagure, places that people are sending code?
Also triaging ticket further.
#361: Badge Request: Fedora Atomic -------------------------------------+------------------------------------- Reporter: jzb | Owner: Type: New badge | Status: idea | new Priority: minor | Resolution: Keywords: | Has a name: Has a description: 0 | 0 Artwork status: Proposed | Concept approved (reviewers only): External requirements: | 0 Triaged (triagers only): 1 | Badge definition status: | None | Manually awarded: | 0 -------------------------------------+-------------------------------------
Comment (by kylerconway):
Thanks, riecatnor. This was part of a sprint to get involved. I'll make some modifications.
jflory7: Looking forward to your writeup w/ mairin on riot.fm (https://twitter.com/mairin/status/793804744552804356)
Both -- any advice on getting started contributing would be helpful. I'm probably misunderstanding the process or timelines for Fedora Magazine images, but that seems to have not worked out yet either (https://pagure.io/fedoramagazine-images/issue/27)
#361: Badge Request: Fedora Atomic -------------------------------------+------------------------------------- Reporter: jzb | Owner: Type: New badge | Status: idea | new Priority: minor | Resolution: Keywords: | Has a name: Has a description: 0 | 0 Artwork status: Proposed | Concept approved (reviewers only): External requirements: | 0 Triaged (triagers only): 1 | Badge definition status: | None | Manually awarded: | 0 -------------------------------------+-------------------------------------
Comment (by kylerconway):
Here's an update!
[[Image(https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-badges/attachment/ticket/361 /atomic-badge-draft.2.png)]]
Replying to [comment:6 riecatnor]:
Hey! great start :)
The concept works, the artwork just needs a little work to meet the
badge guidelines. Make your beaker a bit more stylized. Take out the bubbles, and little lines. Make the stroke thicker, at least 1.5 but probably closer to 3. Examples: http://www.clipartbest.com/cliparts/di7/o86/di7o86MkT.svg http://www.clipartbest.com/cliparts/MTL/RKr/MTLRKrGTa.png
Try making the bottom of the beaker a little bit less wide, so you can
center it more.
Thanks!!
#361: Badge Request: Fedora Atomic -------------------------------------+------------------------------------- Reporter: jzb | Owner: Type: New badge | Status: idea | new Priority: minor | Resolution: Keywords: | Has a name: Has a description: 0 | 0 Artwork status: Proposed | Concept approved (reviewers only): External requirements: | 0 Triaged (triagers only): 1 | Badge definition status: | None | Manually awarded: | 0 -------------------------------------+-------------------------------------
Comment (by jflory7):
Artwork looks nice to me, but it will be better for a design team member to give an official sign-off on the artwork. :)
The question I think needs answering is how this badge will be awarded. If it's manually awarded to a few folks, that's not a problem, but if we want this to be a long-term sort of badge, we should definitely try to find a way to automate this.
#361: Badge Request: Fedora Atomic -------------------------------------+------------------------------------- Reporter: jzb | Owner: Type: New badge | Status: idea | new Priority: minor | Resolution: Keywords: | Has a name: Has a description: 0 | 0 Artwork status: Proposed | Concept approved (reviewers only): External requirements: | 0 Triaged (triagers only): 1 | Badge definition status: | None | Manually awarded: | 0 -------------------------------------+-------------------------------------
Comment (by kylerconway):
Replying to [comment:10 jflory7]:
Artwork looks nice to me, but it will be better for a design team member
to give an official sign-off on the artwork. :)
The question I think needs answering is how this badge will be awarded.
If it's manually awarded to a few folks, that's not a problem, but if we want this to be a long-term sort of badge, we should definitely try to find a way to automate this.
Thanks. For my benefit: what is the "this" that can be automated with respect to badges.
#361: Badge Request: Fedora Atomic -------------------------------------+------------------------------------- Reporter: jzb | Owner: Type: New badge | Status: idea | new Priority: minor | Resolution: Keywords: | Has a name: Has a description: 0 | 0 Artwork status: Proposed | Concept approved (reviewers only): External requirements: | 0 Triaged (triagers only): 1 | Badge definition status: | None | Manually awarded: | 0 -------------------------------------+-------------------------------------
Comment (by duffy):
Hi Kyle! A few more tweaks for the artwork:
- The badge shape isn't really square so when you center stuff in it, you kind of gotta nudge it down a bit and left a bit so it looks "centered." Might want to try that with the beaker?
- Is the background supposed to be clouds? It didn't read to me and from the backlog it looks like that was the intention? I like the idea of the beaker in the clouds or spouting clouds but I think they should probably be drawn and in the foreground.
- I would make the atomic logo bigger - scale down the measurement hashes on the right and scale the logo up as much as you can. The badges are often displayed at half the size and I'm worried the logo won't read at all at 50% (and it being an atomic badge I think we want the logo to be the main element that stands out.)
- Might want to go with a flat grey (or even dark grey) gradient in the background - go darker and then the clouds you add will pop more?
Just some ideas.
#361: Badge Request: Fedora Atomic -------------------------------------+------------------------------------- Reporter: jzb | Owner: Type: New badge | Status: idea | new Priority: minor | Resolution: Keywords: | Has a name: Has a description: 0 | 0 Artwork status: Proposed | Concept approved (reviewers only): External requirements: | 0 Triaged (triagers only): 1 | Badge definition status: | None | Manually awarded: | 0 -------------------------------------+-------------------------------------
Comment (by kylerconway):
Thanks for the feedback. I played around a bit and--due to the size--worry about being able to get each element legible (cloud and beaker) in a final image.
In each, I've reprioritied the logo size and position and mostly downplayed or removed the beaker.
[[Image(https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-badges/raw-attachment/ticket/361 /atomic-play.png)]]
The final image is my favorite--contributions pushing through the clouds-- though it's lost parts of the original idea.
[[Image(https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-badges/raw-attachment/ticket/361 /atomic-better-2016-11-15.png)]]
All feedback welcome.
#361: Badge Request: Fedora Atomic -------------------------------------+------------------------------------- Reporter: jzb | Owner: Type: New badge | Status: idea | new Priority: minor | Resolution: Keywords: | Has a name: Has a description: 0 | 0 Artwork status: Proposed | Concept approved (reviewers only): External requirements: | 0 Triaged (triagers only): 1 | Badge definition status: | None | Manually awarded: | 0 -------------------------------------+-------------------------------------
Comment (by duffy):
Hey Kyle!
So in terms of what most closely matches the badge style, the second and third from the left do. But I do like your favorite, just a few more small tweaks I think to get it to match the style:
- The thick outlines around objects is sort of a hallmark of the fedora badges style. What I'd suggest is a thick white gray outline around the cloud, and have the dashed outline on top (and thicken it so it's the same thickness) so you get the idea of it being dashed without losing the badge style.
- I think the lines of the arrows should be thicker.
- The negative space on the bottom right is a little off... i think the arrow head placement of the bottom center arrow might be a bit off too. What i'd suggest is swapping the bottom center and bottom right arrows, and maybe adding some more (could be at 50% transparency so they drop to the background) in that lower right area so the negative space doesn't seem to be a big hole.
- I would push the cloud down a little bit and scale it and the atomic logo up as much as possible while maintaining space for the arrows. (this is the same concern about the atomic logo being readable.)
- You might want to up the contrast between the cloud white and the grey background. Just a smidge. They are a little too low contrast right now adn i'm worried at smaller sizes it'll just all look the same gray.
Hope this helps!
#361: Badge Request: Fedora Atomic -------------------------------------+------------------------------------- Reporter: jzb | Owner: Type: New badge | Status: idea | new Priority: minor | Resolution: Keywords: | Has a name: Has a description: 0 | 0 Artwork status: Proposed | Concept approved (reviewers only): External requirements: | 0 Triaged (triagers only): 1 | Badge definition status: | None | Manually awarded: | 0 -------------------------------------+-------------------------------------
Comment (by kylerconway):
Thanks for the feedback! Something like this?
[[Image(https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-badges/raw-attachment/ticket/361 /atomic-draft-2016-11-23.png)]]
The green seemed to fight a slightly lighter gray, so I went darker.
Things I'm uncertain of:
1. Arrow placement 2. Dark background 3. Rounded arrows
The logo is more prominent though, and this reads better at a smaller size.
Open to more feedback―helpful so far!
#361: Badge Request: Fedora Atomic -------------------------------------+------------------------------------- Reporter: jzb | Owner: Type: New badge | kylerconway idea | Status: Priority: minor | assigned Keywords: | Resolution: Has a description: 0 | Has a name: Artwork status: Proposed | 0 External requirements: | Concept approved (reviewers only): Triaged (triagers only): 1 | 0 | Badge definition status: | None | Manually awarded: | 0 -------------------------------------+------------------------------------- Changes (by jflory7):
* owner: => kylerconway * status: new => assigned
Comment:
This looks pretty awesome to me! I like where this badge is going, but I am also a little concerned that it won't be possible to implement this one easily. I'm not sure is jzb meant to have it awarded on an ad-hoc basis or if this is supposed to be automated somehow. I will try to get a Cloud WG member to comment here with some feedback.
#361: Badge Request: Fedora Atomic -------------------------------------+------------------------------------- Reporter: jzb | Owner: Type: New badge | kylerconway idea | Status: Priority: minor | assigned Keywords: | Resolution: Has a description: 0 | Has a name: Artwork status: Proposed | 0 External requirements: | Concept approved (reviewers only): Triaged (triagers only): 1 | 0 | Badge definition status: | None | Manually awarded: | 0 -------------------------------------+-------------------------------------
Comment (by kylerconway):
Replying to [comment:16 jflory7]:
This looks pretty awesome to me! I like where this badge is going, but I
am also a little concerned that it won't be possible to implement this one easily. I'm not sure is jzb meant to have it awarded on an ad-hoc basis or if this is supposed to be automated somehow. I will try to get a Cloud WG member to comment here with some feedback.
Sure -- let me know if there's anything to be done in the meantime. Thanks.
#361: Badge Request: Fedora Atomic -------------------------------------+------------------------------------- Reporter: jzb | Owner: Type: New badge | kylerconway idea | Status: Priority: minor | assigned Keywords: | Resolution: Has a description: 0 | Has a name: Artwork status: Proposed | 0 External requirements: | Concept approved (reviewers only): Triaged (triagers only): 1 | 0 | Badge definition status: | None | Manually awarded: | 0 -------------------------------------+-------------------------------------
Comment (by sayanchowdhury):
IMO, This cannot be automated and needs to be awarded manually. We can give the authorization to the Atomic WG members.
#361: Badge Request: Fedora Atomic -------------------------------------+------------------------------------- Reporter: jzb | Owner: Type: New badge | kylerconway idea | Status: Priority: minor | assigned Keywords: | Resolution: Has a description: 0 | Has a name: Artwork status: Proposed | 0 External requirements: | Concept approved (reviewers only): Triaged (triagers only): 1 | 0 | Badge definition status: | None | Manually awarded: | 0 -------------------------------------+-------------------------------------
Comment (by mleonova):
Hi Kyle!
This looks pretty good! I like the upward and forward movement the artwork projects. We reviewed your design in the badges meeting today and came up with a couple suggestions: - there seems to be no need for transparencies. How would you feel about getting rid of them? - the dark grey bg is not something we have in our badges guidelines. Riecatnor and I suggest blue - it makes sense for a cloud to be in the sky, doesn't it? - what is the black dotted outline? Does it stand for something?
Thanks! Would love to see those changes made!
#361: Badge Request: Fedora Atomic -------------------------------------+------------------------------------- Reporter: jzb | Owner: Type: New badge | kylerconway idea | Status: Priority: minor | assigned Keywords: | Resolution: Has a description: 0 | Has a name: Artwork status: Proposed | 0 External requirements: | Concept approved (reviewers only): Triaged (triagers only): 1 | 0 | Badge definition status: | None | Manually awarded: | 0 -------------------------------------+-------------------------------------
Comment (by kylerconway):
Thanks, mleonova. How's this? Had to change the color of the arrows I think. Looks better.
[[Image(https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-badges/raw-attachment/ticket/361 /atomic-blue.png)]]
#361: Badge Request: Fedora Atomic -------------------------------------+------------------------------------- Reporter: jzb | Owner: Type: New badge | kylerconway idea | Status: Priority: minor | assigned Keywords: | Resolution: Has a description: 0 | Has a name: Artwork status: Proposed | 0 External requirements: | Concept approved (reviewers only): Triaged (triagers only): 1 | 0 | Badge definition status: | None | Manually awarded: | 0 -------------------------------------+-------------------------------------
Comment (by mleonova):
Hi Kyle!
We've reviewed your badge with @riecatnor - and you're definitely on the right track, almost finished! Let's make a couple more changes: - thicken the cloud outline and make it the same grey as the logo. - change the background to lighter blue. perhaps something like this: https://badges.fedoraproject.org/badge/building-the-outer-ring-copr-build- iv. Lt's see how those arrows look on it.
Thanks!
#361: Badge Request: Fedora Atomic -------------------------------------+------------------------------------- Reporter: jzb | Owner: Type: New badge | kylerconway idea | Status: Priority: minor | assigned Keywords: | Resolution: Has a description: 0 | Has a name: Artwork status: Proposed | 0 External requirements: | Concept approved (reviewers only): Triaged (triagers only): 1 | 0 | Badge definition status: | None | Manually awarded: | 0 -------------------------------------+-------------------------------------
Comment (by kylerconway):
Thanks @mleonova and @riecatnor. Changes below. Two versions:
Gradient (but arrows lose contrast):
[[Image(https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-badges/raw- attachment/ticket/361/tx361.png)]]
Flat:
[[Image(https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-badges/raw- attachment/ticket/361/tx361-darkblue.png)]]
Thanks!
#361: Badge Request: Fedora Atomic -------------------------------------+------------------------------------- Reporter: jzb | Owner: Type: New badge | kylerconway idea | Status: Priority: minor | assigned Keywords: | Resolution: Has a description: 0 | Has a name: Artwork status: Proposed | 0 External requirements: | Concept approved (reviewers only): Triaged (triagers only): 1 | 0 | Badge definition status: | None | Manually awarded: | 0 -------------------------------------+-------------------------------------
Comment (by mleonova):
Hi Kyle!
That looks great! I actually do like the gradient - maybe just shift it a bit for more contrast? One thing I'm concerned about is png size - they look twice as big as they should. Just make sure when uploading final version that png is 256x256 px. Thanks! =)
Replying to [comment:22 kylerconway]:
Thanks @mleonova and @riecatnor. Changes below. Two versions:
Gradient (but arrows lose contrast):
attachment/ticket/361/tx361.png)]]
#361: Badge Request: Fedora Atomic -------------------------------------+------------------------------------- Reporter: jzb | Owner: Type: New badge | kylerconway idea | Status: Priority: minor | assigned Keywords: | Resolution: Has a description: 0 | Has a name: Artwork status: Proposed | 0 External requirements: | Concept approved (reviewers only): Triaged (triagers only): 1 | 0 | Badge definition status: | None | Manually awarded: | 0 -------------------------------------+-------------------------------------
Comment (by kylerconway):
How's this? (Should be the right size). Question: are the final svg's housed anywhere or is the png the only living format?
[[Image(https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-badges/raw-attachment/ticket/361 /atomic-badge-db.png)]]
Thanks!
Replying to [comment:23 mleonova]:
Hi Kyle!
That looks great! I actually do like the gradient - maybe just shift it
a bit for more contrast?
One thing I'm concerned about is png size - they look twice as big as
they should. Just make sure when uploading final version that png is 256x256 px. Thanks! =)
Replying to [comment:22 kylerconway]:
Thanks @mleonova and @riecatnor. Changes below. Two versions:
Gradient (but arrows lose contrast):
attachment/ticket/361/tx361.png)]]
#361: Badge Request: Fedora Atomic -------------------------------------+------------------------------------- Reporter: jzb | Owner: Type: New badge | kylerconway idea | Status: Priority: minor | assigned Keywords: | Resolution: Has a description: 0 | Has a name: Artwork status: Proposed | 0 External requirements: | Concept approved (reviewers only): Triaged (triagers only): 1 | 0 | Badge definition status: | None | Manually awarded: | 0 -------------------------------------+-------------------------------------
Comment (by mleonova):
Hi Kyle! This looks great to me! I'll set it to approved. Please upload the svg here.
Replying to [comment:24 kylerconway]:
How's this? (Should be the right size). Question: are the final svg's
housed anywhere or is the png the only living format?
[[Image(https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-badges/raw-attachment/ticket/361
/atomic-badge-db.png)]]
Thanks!
#361: Badge Request: Fedora Atomic -------------------------------------+------------------------------------- Reporter: jzb | Owner: Type: New badge | kylerconway idea | Status: Priority: minor | assigned Keywords: | Resolution: Has a description: 0 | Has a name: Artwork status: Approved | 0 (design team members only) | Concept approved (reviewers only): External requirements: | 0 Triaged (triagers only): 1 | Badge definition status: | None | Manually awarded: | 0 -------------------------------------+------------------------------------- Changes (by mleonova):
* has_artwork: Proposed => Approved (design team members only)
#361: Badge Request: Fedora Atomic -------------------------------------+------------------------------------- Reporter: jzb | Owner: Type: New badge | kylerconway idea | Status: Priority: minor | assigned Keywords: | Resolution: Has a description: 0 | Has a name: Artwork status: Approved | 0 (design team members only) | Concept approved (reviewers only): External requirements: | 0 Triaged (triagers only): 1 | Badge definition status: | None | Manually awarded: | 0 -------------------------------------+-------------------------------------
Comment (by kylerconway):
Uploaded. Thanks for the feedback and assistance along the way everyone.
Replying to [comment:25 mleonova]:
Hi Kyle! This looks great to me! I'll set it to approved. Please upload
the svg here.
Replying to [comment:24 kylerconway]:
How's this? (Should be the right size). Question: are the final svg's
housed anywhere or is the png the only living format?
attachment/ticket/361/atomic-badge-db.png)]]
Thanks!
#361: Badge Request: Fedora Atomic -------------------------------------+------------------------------------- Reporter: jzb | Owner: Type: New badge | kylerconway idea | Status: Priority: minor | assigned Keywords: | Resolution: Has a description: 0 | Has a name: Artwork status: Approved | 0 (design team members only) | Concept approved (reviewers only): External requirements: | 0 Triaged (triagers only): 1 | Badge definition status: | None | Manually awarded: | 0 -------------------------------------+-------------------------------------
Comment (by mleonova):
Thank you, that looks great! Let's get someone to push it.
Replying to [comment:27 kylerconway]:
Uploaded. Thanks for the feedback and assistance along the way everyone.
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