#470: Request a badge for localization members l10n -------------------------------------+------------------------------------- Reporter: | Owner: fredlima | Status: new Type: | Keywords: l10n, New badge idea | zanata Priority: | Has a description: 0 minor | Artwork status: None Has a name: | External requirements: 0 | Triaged (triagers only): 0 Concept approved (reviewers only): | 0 | Badge definition status: | None | Manually awarded: | 0 | -------------------------------------+------------------------------------- Badge description (like "You added a co-maintainer to a package. BFF!"):
L10n new members of a language team in zanata.
After the new member have his subscription approved on a language team on zanata, I think he deserves a badge
Help the badges team understand what this idea is all about. If this badge is awarded for certain kinds of activities:
1) What are those activities? translating Fedora websites, packages, spins to other language than english
2) Who is doing them (are they packagers? translators? newcomers? veterans? users? sponsors?) translators
3) Why are they doing them (is this a means to a different end?) they brings fedora to another languages
4) When do they do them (every day? once a year?) every time a new member has subscription approved on one language team in zanata
5) How do they do them (by talking in IRC? by running commands in the console? by using a web interface?) using web interface zanata
Lastly, do you have any ideas for artwork concepts? a dictionary
#470: Request a badge for localization members l10n -------------------------------------+------------------------------------- Reporter: fredlima | Owner: Type: New badge | Status: idea | new Priority: minor | Resolution: Keywords: l10n, | Has a name: zanata | 0 Has a description: 0 | Concept approved (reviewers only): Artwork status: None | 0 External requirements: | Badge definition status: Triaged (triagers only): 0 | None | Manually awarded: | 0 -------------------------------------+-------------------------------------
Comment (by mativi):
I like this idea! Instead of being linked to Zanata, the badge could be awarded when one is approved on "Translation CVS Commit Group", on FAS. I think it's easier to automatically award badges this way.
#470: Request a badge for localization members l10n -------------------------------------+------------------------------------- Reporter: fredlima | Owner: Type: New badge | Status: idea | new Priority: minor | Resolution: Keywords: l10n, | Has a name: zanata | 0 Has a description: 0 | Concept approved (reviewers only): Artwork status: None | 0 External requirements: | Badge definition status: Triaged (triagers only): 0 | None | Manually awarded: | 0 -------------------------------------+-------------------------------------
Comment (by pravins):
Replying to [comment:1 mativi]:
I like this idea! Instead of being linked to Zanata, the badge could be awarded when one
is approved on "Translation CVS Commit Group", on FAS. Translation CVS commit is not used anymore. There is good chances that many new members have account in Zanata but not approved for Translation CVS commit.
Rather: How about exporting FAS accounts from Zanata and award them badges for L10N members??
I think soon, Zanata will communicating over FedBus and this can be automated, so as soon as someone do commit in Zanata, first badge he will earn will be Localization team member.
But as of now good to go ahead with exported users name from Zanata. Also created ticket on G11N trac. https://fedorahosted.org/G11N/ticket/26
Thanks fredlima for initiating this :)
#470: Request a badge for localization members l10n -------------------------------------+------------------------------------- Reporter: fredlima | Owner: Type: New badge | Status: idea | new Priority: minor | Resolution: Keywords: l10n, | Has a name: zanata | 0 Has a description: 0 | Concept approved (reviewers only): Artwork status: None | 1 External requirements: | Badge definition status: Triaged (triagers only): 0 | None | Manually awarded: | 0 -------------------------------------+------------------------------------- Changes (by riecatnor):
* concept_review_passed: 0 => 1
#470: Request a badge for localization members l10n -------------------------------------+------------------------------------- Reporter: fredlima | Owner: Type: New badge | Status: idea | new Priority: minor | Resolution: Keywords: l10n, | Has a name: zanata | 0 Has a description: 0 | Concept approved (reviewers only): Artwork status: None | 1 External requirements: | Badge definition status: Triaged (triagers only): 0 | None | Manually awarded: | 0 -------------------------------------+-------------------------------------
Comment (by fredlima):
Replying to [comment:3 riecatnor]: No, thank you.
#470: Request a badge for localization members l10n -------------------------------------+------------------------------------- Reporter: fredlima | Owner: Type: New badge | Status: idea | new Priority: minor | Resolution: Keywords: l10n, | Has a name: zanata | 0 Has a description: 0 | Concept approved (reviewers only): Artwork status: None | 1 External requirements: | Badge definition status: Triaged (triagers only): 0 | None | Manually awarded: | 0 -------------------------------------+-------------------------------------
Comment (by pravins):
Thanks riecatnor for approval :) fredlima Do you have any idea about the design? We have found it difficult in few others G11N related badges design ideas and simply came up with writing word. "l10n", "i18n" and "g11n"
#470: Request a badge for localization members l10n -------------------------------------+------------------------------------- Reporter: fredlima | Owner: Type: New badge | Status: idea | new Priority: minor | Resolution: Keywords: l10n, | Has a name: zanata | 0 Has a description: 0 | Concept approved (reviewers only): Artwork status: None | 1 External requirements: | Badge definition status: Triaged (triagers only): 0 | None | Manually awarded: | 0 -------------------------------------+-------------------------------------
Comment (by fredlima):
Replying to [comment:5 pravins]:
Thanks riecatnor for approval :) fredlima Do you have any idea about the design? We have found it
difficult in few others G11N related badges design ideas and simply came up with writing word. "l10n", "i18n" and "g11n"
I thought something like this: [http://goo.gl/cL28wC]
But you are free to let your mind flow
#470: Request a badge for localization members l10n -------------------------------------+------------------------------------- Reporter: fredlima | Owner: Type: New badge | Status: idea | new Priority: minor | Resolution: Keywords: l10n, | Has a name: zanata | 0 Has a description: 0 | Concept approved (reviewers only): Artwork status: None | 1 External requirements: | Badge definition status: Triaged (triagers only): 0 | None | Manually awarded: | 0 -------------------------------------+-------------------------------------
Comment (by riecatnor):
+1 to the dictionary idea. I think something based off this composition: https://lh6.ggpht.com/mUZO9nVPdJl3BRSibn_bCq9MyshJRLIuSehItxO6yOjWtvtGLdRcLY... or even this: https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn :ANd9GcTanqbeK5pnOIecE78mIjYDOfY4uFTtqKMihjP-Jv3TcXyfnsd_YA would be very nice
#470: Request a badge for localization members l10n -------------------------------------+------------------------------------- Reporter: fredlima | Owner: Type: New badge | Status: idea | new Priority: minor | Resolution: Keywords: l10n, | Has a name: zanata | 0 Has a description: 0 | Concept approved (reviewers only): Artwork status: None | 1 External requirements: | Badge definition status: Triaged (triagers only): 0 | None | Manually awarded: | 0 -------------------------------------+-------------------------------------
Comment (by gnokii):
@Marie maybe play with a classic picture again
https://www.google.com/search?q=tower+of+babel&safe=off&tbm=isch&...
#470: Request a badge for localization members l10n -------------------------------------+------------------------------------- Reporter: fredlima | Owner: Type: New badge | Status: idea | new Priority: minor | Resolution: Keywords: l10n, | Has a name: zanata | 0 Has a description: 0 | Concept approved (reviewers only): Artwork status: None | 1 External requirements: | Badge definition status: Triaged (triagers only): 0 | None | Manually awarded: | 0 -------------------------------------+-------------------------------------
Comment (by nobrakal):
It seems like a duplicate of [https://fedorahosted.org/fedora- badges/ticket/221 #221], with the first "Traveler badge": Traveler Starter ("You accepted on language team")
#470: Request a badge for localization members l10n -------------------------------------+------------------------------------- Reporter: fredlima | Owner: Type: New badge | Status: idea | new Priority: minor | Resolution: Keywords: l10n, | Has a name: zanata | 0 Has a description: 0 | Concept approved (reviewers only): Artwork status: None | 1 External requirements: | Badge definition status: Triaged (triagers only): 0 | None | Manually awarded: | 0 -------------------------------------+-------------------------------------
Comment (by pravins):
#221 is different badge. This badge is for becoming Translation team members. On the other hand #221 is for contribution series. i.e. You did 5, 500, 5000 string translations.
#221 has dependencies on Zanata FedMsg sync, which mostly get started by November/December.
I will recommend please proceed with this badge. Translation is big group and definitely need more motivation with more badges.
#470: Request a badge for localization members l10n -------------------------------------+------------------------------------- Reporter: fredlima | Owner: Type: New badge | Status: idea | new Priority: minor | Resolution: Keywords: l10n, | Has a name: zanata | 0 Has a description: 0 | Concept approved (reviewers only): Artwork status: None | 1 External requirements: | Badge definition status: Triaged (triagers only): 0 | None | Manually awarded: | 0 -------------------------------------+-------------------------------------
Comment (by fredlima):
Replying to [comment:10 pravins]:
#221 is different badge. This badge is for becoming Translation team
members. On the other hand #221 is for contribution series. i.e. You did 5, 500, 5000 string translations.
#221 has dependencies on Zanata FedMsg sync, which mostly get started by
November/December.
I will recommend please proceed with this badge. Translation is big
group and definitely need more motivation with more badges.
that's a good news... so lets proceed?
#470: Request a badge for localization members l10n -------------------------------------+------------------------------------- Reporter: fredlima | Owner: Type: New badge | Status: idea | new Priority: minor | Resolution: Keywords: l10n | Has a name: Has a description: 0 | 0 Artwork status: Concept | Concept approved (reviewers only): External requirements: | 1 Triaged (triagers only): 1 | Badge definition status: | Not yet possible | Manually awarded: | 0 -------------------------------------+------------------------------------- Changes (by jflory7):
* keywords: l10n, zanata => l10n * has_complete_yaml: None => Not yet possible * triaged: 0 => 1 * has_artwork: None => Concept
Comment:
Hi, taking a look at this ticket now. My biggest question before we proceed is if this badge is possible to automate. Awarding a badge to every single translator manually in Fedora seems like a tedious task, and I'm afraid this badge would fall victim to the same thing as some of our other ones, where people forget to award it over time.
If there is any kind of FAS group for translators, this will be easy to automate. If there is no FAS group and we want to use Zanata, we will have to wait for fedmsg support, which if I remember, was forecasted for January or February. Until we solve how to automate this badge, I would recommend we hold off on designing any artwork yet, just so we can be sure this badge can be deployed successfully.
I'm going to mark it as "Not yet possible", but if there _is_ a FAS group, this is an easy one to do. If not, let's revisit this ticket once Zanata is worked into fedmsg in the coming months.
Thanks!
#470: Request a badge for localization members l10n -------------------------------------+------------------------------------- Reporter: fredlima | Owner: Type: New badge | Status: idea | new Priority: minor | Resolution: Keywords: l10n | Has a name: Has a description: 0 | 0 Artwork status: Concept | Concept approved (reviewers only): External requirements: | 1 Triaged (triagers only): 1 | Badge definition status: | Not yet possible | Manually awarded: | 0 -------------------------------------+-------------------------------------
Comment (by fredlima):
Like mativi said, there's is an
"Translation CVS Commit Group" on FAS
is this enough?
#470: Request a badge for localization members l10n -------------------------------------+------------------------------------- Reporter: fredlima | Owner: Type: New badge | Status: idea | new Priority: minor | Resolution: Keywords: l10n | Has a name: Has a description: 0 | 0 Artwork status: Concept | Concept approved (reviewers only): External requirements: | 1 Triaged (triagers only): 1 | Badge definition status: | Not yet possible | Manually awarded: | 0 -------------------------------------+-------------------------------------
Comment (by jflory7):
Replying to [comment:13 fredlima]:
Like mativi said, there's is an
"Translation CVS Commit Group" on FAS
is this enough?
My concern with this was with Pravin's previous comment about the group not being used anymore. If translators are still being sponsored into the group, that's fine, but if it's not being used or kept up-to-date, it won't make a difference.
#470: Request a badge for localization members l10n -------------------------------------+------------------------------------- Reporter: fredlima | Owner: Type: New badge | Status: idea | new Priority: minor | Resolution: Keywords: l10n | Has a name: Has a description: 0 | 0 Artwork status: Concept | Concept approved (reviewers only): External requirements: | 1 Triaged (triagers only): 1 | Badge definition status: | Not yet possible | Manually awarded: | 0 -------------------------------------+-------------------------------------
Comment (by beckerde):
Replying to [comment:14 jflory7]:
Replying to [comment:13 fredlima]:
Like mativi said, there's is an
"Translation CVS Commit Group" on FAS
is this enough?
My concern with this was with Pravin's previous comment about the group
not being used anymore. If translators are still being sponsored into the group, that's fine, but if it's not being used or kept up-to-date, it won't make a difference.
If you want to edit the wiki, you need to belong to a group. Access rights are actually given to groups.
If you have a fas account, you need to belong to a group for administrative purposes. Perhaps someone from infrastructure may clarify this point.
#470: Request a badge for localization members l10n -------------------------------------+------------------------------------- Reporter: fredlima | Owner: Type: New badge | Status: idea | new Priority: minor | Resolution: Keywords: l10n | Has a name: Has a description: 0 | 0 Artwork status: Concept | Concept approved (reviewers only): External requirements: | 1 Triaged (triagers only): 1 | Badge definition status: | Not yet possible | Manually awarded: | 0 -------------------------------------+-------------------------------------
Comment (by jflory7):
Replying to [comment:15 beckerde]:
If you want to edit the wiki, you need to belong to a group. Access
rights are actually given to groups.
If you have a fas account, you need to belong to a group for
administrative purposes. Perhaps someone from infrastructure may clarify this point.
For the wiki, this is correct. I don't think FAS membership is required, but it's helpful for things like this and also helping see who is active in a particular group in FAS itself. I saw discussion about this starting [https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/trans@lists.fedoraproject.org/... on the translations mailing list].
#470: Request a badge for localization members l10n -------------------------------------+------------------------------------- Reporter: fredlima | Owner: Type: New badge | Status: idea | new Priority: minor | Resolution: Keywords: l10n | Has a name: Has a description: 0 | 0 Artwork status: Concept | Concept approved (reviewers only): External requirements: | 1 Triaged (triagers only): 1 | Badge definition status: | Not yet possible | Manually awarded: | 0 -------------------------------------+-------------------------------------
Comment (by pravins):
Good catch @Justin :)
21:00 UTC Tuesday (15th) we are planning meeting about this, hoping we will come to conclusion for this.
#470: Request a badge for localization members l10n -------------------------------------+------------------------------------- Reporter: fredlima | Owner: Type: New badge | Status: idea | new Priority: minor | Resolution: Keywords: l10n | Has a name: Has a description: 0 | 0 Artwork status: Concept | Concept approved (reviewers only): External requirements: | 1 Triaged (triagers only): 1 | Badge definition status: | Not yet possible | Manually awarded: | 0 -------------------------------------+-------------------------------------
Comment (by pravins):
In [https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora- meeting/2016-11-15/translations.2016-11-15-19.30.html yesterday meeting] we agreed with majority to use cvsl10n as a group to award badges for translation team members.
It also serving one more purpose for translation team, often new members miss subscribing to CVSl10n group, having badge for it motivate them to complete that steps.
Please go ahead with implementation.
#470: Request a badge for localization members l10n -------------------------------------+------------------------------------- Reporter: fredlima | Owner: Type: New badge | Status: idea | new Priority: minor | Resolution: Keywords: l10n | Has a name: Has a description: 0 | 0 Artwork status: Concept | Concept approved (reviewers only): External requirements: | 1 Triaged (triagers only): 1 | Badge definition status: | Not yet possible | Manually awarded: | 0 -------------------------------------+-------------------------------------
Comment (by itamarjp):
Do We have an agreement for having current translation coordinators as sponsors in CVSl10n group ?
#470: Request a badge for localization members l10n -------------------------------------+------------------------------------- Reporter: fredlima | Owner: Type: New badge | Status: idea | new Priority: minor | Resolution: Keywords: l10n | Has a name: Has a description: 0 | 0 Artwork status: Concept | Concept approved (reviewers only): External requirements: | 1 Triaged (triagers only): 1 | Badge definition status: | Not yet possible | Manually awarded: | 0 -------------------------------------+-------------------------------------
Comment (by pravins):
Replying to [comment:19 itamarjp]:
Do We have an agreement for having current translation coordinators as
sponsors in CVSl10n group ? This is more trans list topic.
#470: Request a badge for localization members l10n -------------------------------------+------------------------------------- Reporter: fredlima | Owner: Type: New badge | Status: idea | new Priority: minor | Resolution: Keywords: l10n | Has a name: Has a description: 0 | 0 Artwork status: Concept | Concept approved (reviewers only): External requirements: | 1 Triaged (triagers only): 1 | Badge definition status: | Not yet possible | Manually awarded: | 0 -------------------------------------+-------------------------------------
Comment (by pravins):
We do not have anything pending for processing this badge. Most of the things are ready, can we push this live?
#470: Request a badge for localization members l10n -------------------------------------+------------------------------------- Reporter: fredlima | Owner: Type: New badge | Status: idea | new Priority: minor | Resolution: Keywords: l10n | Has a name: Has a description: 0 | 0 Artwork status: Concept | Concept approved (reviewers only): External requirements: | 1 Triaged (triagers only): 1 | Badge definition status: | Approved (badges admins only) | Manually awarded: | 0 -------------------------------------+------------------------------------- Changes (by jflory7):
* has_complete_yaml: Not yet possible => Approved (badges admins only)
Comment:
Sure. We'll need someone to help with the design part. :)
#470: Request a badge for localization members l10n -------------------------------------+------------------------------------- Reporter: fredlima | Owner: Type: New badge | maryshak1996 idea | Status: Priority: minor | assigned Keywords: l10n | Resolution: Has a description: 0 | Has a name: Artwork status: Concept | 0 External requirements: | Concept approved (reviewers only): Triaged (triagers only): 1 | 1 | Badge definition status: | Approved (badges admins only) | Manually awarded: | 0 -------------------------------------+------------------------------------- Changes (by maryshak1996):
* owner: => maryshak1996 * status: new => assigned
#470: Request a badge for localization members l10n -------------------------------------+------------------------------------- Reporter: fredlima | Owner: Type: New badge | maryshak1996 idea | Status: Priority: minor | assigned Keywords: l10n | Resolution: Has a description: 0 | Has a name: Artwork status: Concept | 0 External requirements: | Concept approved (reviewers only): Triaged (triagers only): 1 | 1 | Badge definition status: | Approved (badges admins only) | Manually awarded: | 0 -------------------------------------+-------------------------------------
Comment (by maryshak1996):
Here's something going off of the dictionary idea [[Image(ticket #470_attempt 1.png)]]
#470: Request a badge for localization members l10n -------------------------------------+------------------------------------- Reporter: fredlima | Owner: Type: New badge | maryshak1996 idea | Status: Priority: minor | assigned Keywords: l10n | Resolution: Has a description: 0 | Has a name: Artwork status: Concept | 0 External requirements: | Concept approved (reviewers only): Triaged (triagers only): 1 | 1 | Badge definition status: | Approved (badges admins only) | Manually awarded: | 0 -------------------------------------+-------------------------------------
Comment (by pravins):
Looks nice to me.
#470: Request a badge for localization members l10n -------------------------------------+------------------------------------- Reporter: fredlima | Owner: Type: New badge | maryshak1996 idea | Status: Priority: minor | assigned Keywords: l10n | Resolution: Has a description: 0 | Has a name: Artwork status: Concept | 0 External requirements: | Concept approved (reviewers only): Triaged (triagers only): 1 | 1 | Badge definition status: | Approved (badges admins only) | Manually awarded: | 0 -------------------------------------+-------------------------------------
Comment (by riecatnor):
Hey @maryshak1996! Thanks for starting to work on this badge design.
This is a member badge, so the outer ring should be pink and the background a light green.
Can you try a version where the sun burst is coming from directly behind the book?
Try playing around with the book colors.. right now, the L10n is blending a bit with the green rectangle its on. Try giving the letters a stroke, or putting it directly on the blue book.
Can't wait to see what you come up with!
#470: Request a badge for localization members l10n -------------------------------------+------------------------------------- Reporter: fredlima | Owner: Type: New badge | maryshak1996 idea | Status: Priority: minor | assigned Keywords: l10n | Resolution: Has a description: 0 | Has a name: Artwork status: Concept | 0 External requirements: | Concept approved (reviewers only): Triaged (triagers only): 1 | 1 | Badge definition status: | Approved (badges admins only) | Manually awarded: | 0 -------------------------------------+-------------------------------------
Comment (by maryshak1996):
[[Image(ticket #470_attempt 2.png)]] Thanks @riecatnor, here's what you asked for!
badges@lists.stg.fedoraproject.org
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fedora-badges