Inspired by recent fedora-devel list discussion, here's a patch to save some space from images by excluding obsoleted packages. Arguably those packages should just die and not hang around in the repos, but these undead packages seem fairly persistent...
This is what I see with F18 install DVD:
Before patch: -rw-r--r--. 1 root root 4687134720 Nov 12 21:10 Fedora-18-x86_64-DVD.iso
With the patch: -rw-r--r--. 1 root root 4550819840 Nov 12 21:01 Fedora-18-x86_64-DVD.iso
This is what makes up the difference: [root@turre tmp]# grep obsoleted pungi-exclude-obsoletes.log Pungi:INFO: Excluding ql2100-firmware.noarch (obsoleted by linux-firmware.noarch) Pungi:INFO: Excluding grub.x86_64 (obsoleted by grub2.x86_64) Pungi:INFO: Excluding rt61pci-firmware.noarch (obsoleted by linux-firmware.noarch) Pungi:INFO: Excluding ql23xx-firmware.noarch (obsoleted by linux-firmware.noarch) Pungi:INFO: Excluding ql2200-firmware.noarch (obsoleted by linux-firmware.noarch) Pungi:INFO: Excluding rt73usb-firmware.noarch (obsoleted by linux-firmware.noarch) Pungi:INFO: Excluding module-init-tools.x86_64 (obsoleted by kmod.x86_64) Pungi:INFO: Excluding maven-shared-common-artifact-filters.noarch (obsoleted by maven-common-artifact-filters.noarch) Pungi:INFO: Excluding jaxen-bootstrap.noarch (obsoleted by jaxen.noarch) Pungi:INFO: Excluding maven-shared-dependency-tree.noarch (obsoleted by maven-dependency-tree.noarch) Pungi:INFO: Excluding dvipng.x86_64 (obsoleted by texlive-dvipng-bin.x86_64) Pungi:INFO: Excluding xdvik.x86_64 (obsoleted by texlive-xdvi-bin.x86_64) Pungi:INFO: Excluding dvipdfmx.x86_64 (obsoleted by texlive-dvipdfmx-bin.x86_64) Pungi:INFO: Excluding dvipdfm.x86_64 (obsoleted by texlive-dvipdfm-bin.noarch) Pungi:INFO: Excluding nfs-utils-lib.x86_64 (obsoleted by libnfsidmap.x86_64) [root@turre tmp]#
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Panu Matilainen (pmatilai@laiskiainen.org) said:
Inspired by recent fedora-devel list discussion, here's a patch to save some space from images by excluding obsoleted packages. Arguably those packages should just die and not hang around in the repos, but these undead packages seem fairly persistent...
This is what I see with F18 install DVD:
Before patch: -rw-r--r--. 1 root root 4687134720 Nov 12 21:10 Fedora-18-x86_64-DVD.iso
With the patch: -rw-r--r--. 1 root root 4550819840 Nov 12 21:01 Fedora-18-x86_64-DVD.iso
The idea of the patch makes sense, but I'm surprised that what you list below really amounts to 130MB off the DVD, given that the biggest package is grub's 6MB. There could be dependencies that fall off, but that many?
Bill
On 11/13/2012 08:44 PM, Bill Nottingham wrote:
Panu Matilainen (pmatilai@laiskiainen.org) said:
Inspired by recent fedora-devel list discussion, here's a patch to save some space from images by excluding obsoleted packages. Arguably those packages should just die and not hang around in the repos, but these undead packages seem fairly persistent...
This is what I see with F18 install DVD:
Before patch: -rw-r--r--. 1 root root 4687134720 Nov 12 21:10 Fedora-18-x86_64-DVD.iso
With the patch: -rw-r--r--. 1 root root 4550819840 Nov 12 21:01 Fedora-18-x86_64-DVD.iso
The idea of the patch makes sense, but I'm surprised that what you list below really amounts to 130MB off the DVD, given that the biggest package is grub's 6MB. There could be dependencies that fall off, but that many?
Sorry, should've obviously included this info to start with... Here's the entire list of packages dropped from the iso with the patch:
dvipdfm-0.13.2d-44.fc18.x86_64.rpm dvipdfmx-0-0.35.20090708cvs.fc18.x86_64.rpm dvipng-1.14-4.fc18.x86_64.rpm grub-0.97-91.fc18.x86_64.rpm jaxen-bootstrap-1.1-6.2.fc18.noarch.rpm libpaper-1.1.24-5.fc18.x86_64.rpm maven-shared-dependency-tree-1.3-24.fc18.noarch.rpm nfs-utils-lib-1.1.5-7.fc18.x86_64.rpm ql2100-firmware-1.19.38-6.fc18.noarch.rpm ql2200-firmware-2.02.08-6.fc18.noarch.rpm ql23xx-firmware-3.03.28-4.fc18.noarch.rpm rt61pci-firmware-1.2-10.fc18.noarch.rpm rt73usb-firmware-1.8-10.fc18.noarch.rpm texlive-avantgar-0.svn21993-1.fc18.noarch.rpm texlive-bookman-0.svn21993-1.fc18.noarch.rpm texlive-charter-0.svn15878-1.fc18.noarch.rpm texlive-cmextra-0.svn14075-1.fc18.noarch.rpm texlive-cm-super-0.svn15878-1.fc18.noarch.rpm texlive-collection-fontsrecommended-0.svn26699-3.20121019_r28030.fc18.noarch.rpm texlive-courier-0.svn21993-1.fc18.noarch.rpm texlive-euro-1.1.svn22191-1.fc18.noarch.rpm texlive-eurosym-1.4_subrfix.svn17265-1.fc18.noarch.rpm texlive-fpl-1.002.svn15878-1.fc18.noarch.rpm texlive-helvetic-0.svn21993-1.fc18.noarch.rpm texlive-marvosym-2.2a.svn25926-1.fc18.noarch.rpm texlive-mathpazo-1.003.svn15878-1.fc18.noarch.rpm texlive-ncntrsbk-0.svn21993-1.fc18.noarch.rpm texlive-palatino-0.svn21993-1.fc18.noarch.rpm texlive-pxfonts-0.svn15878-1.fc18.noarch.rpm texlive-rsfs-0.svn15878-1.fc18.noarch.rpm texlive-symbol-0.svn21570-1.fc18.noarch.rpm texlive-tex-gyre-2.004.svn18651-1.fc18.noarch.rpm texlive-tex-gyre-math-1.008.svn26838-1.fc18.noarch.rpm texlive-texmf-2007-42.fc18.noarch.rpm texlive-texmf-dvips-2007-42.fc18.noarch.rpm texlive-texmf-fonts-2007-42.fc18.noarch.rpm texlive-times-0.svn21993-1.fc18.noarch.rpm texlive-txfonts-0.svn15878-1.fc18.noarch.rpm texlive-utopia-0.svn15878-1.fc18.noarch.rpm texlive-wasy-0.svn15878-1.fc18.noarch.rpm texlive-wasysym-2.0.svn15878-1.fc18.noarch.rpm texlive-zapfchan-0.svn21993-1.fc18.noarch.rpm texlive-zapfding-0.svn21570-1.fc18.noarch.rpm xdvik-22.84.14-12.fc18.x86_64.rpm xom-1.0-9.fc18.noarch.rpm
I didn't actually look at the package sizes here but imagining these amounting to > 100M is hard. To add to the insult, AFAICS the thing dragging in all this texlive font stuff is dvipdfmx, a package which is not only obsoleted but also has broken dependencies:
Pungi:WARNING: Unresolvable dependency libkpathsea.so.4()(64bit) in dvipdfmx.x86_64
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El Wed, 14 Nov 2012 09:19:59 +0200 Panu Matilainen pmatilai@laiskiainen.org escribió:
On 11/13/2012 08:44 PM, Bill Nottingham wrote:
Panu Matilainen (pmatilai@laiskiainen.org) said:
Inspired by recent fedora-devel list discussion, here's a patch to save some space from images by excluding obsoleted packages. Arguably those packages should just die and not hang around in the repos, but these undead packages seem fairly persistent...
This is what I see with F18 install DVD:
Before patch: -rw-r--r--. 1 root root 4687134720 Nov 12 21:10 Fedora-18-x86_64-DVD.iso
With the patch: -rw-r--r--. 1 root root 4550819840 Nov 12 21:01 Fedora-18-x86_64-DVD.iso
The idea of the patch makes sense, but I'm surprised that what you list below really amounts to 130MB off the DVD, given that the biggest package is grub's 6MB. There could be dependencies that fall off, but that many?
Sorry, should've obviously included this info to start with... Here's the entire list of packages dropped from the iso with the patch:
dvipdfm-0.13.2d-44.fc18.x86_64.rpm dvipdfmx-0-0.35.20090708cvs.fc18.x86_64.rpm dvipng-1.14-4.fc18.x86_64.rpm grub-0.97-91.fc18.x86_64.rpm jaxen-bootstrap-1.1-6.2.fc18.noarch.rpm libpaper-1.1.24-5.fc18.x86_64.rpm maven-shared-dependency-tree-1.3-24.fc18.noarch.rpm nfs-utils-lib-1.1.5-7.fc18.x86_64.rpm ql2100-firmware-1.19.38-6.fc18.noarch.rpm ql2200-firmware-2.02.08-6.fc18.noarch.rpm ql23xx-firmware-3.03.28-4.fc18.noarch.rpm rt61pci-firmware-1.2-10.fc18.noarch.rpm rt73usb-firmware-1.8-10.fc18.noarch.rpm texlive-avantgar-0.svn21993-1.fc18.noarch.rpm texlive-bookman-0.svn21993-1.fc18.noarch.rpm texlive-charter-0.svn15878-1.fc18.noarch.rpm texlive-cmextra-0.svn14075-1.fc18.noarch.rpm texlive-cm-super-0.svn15878-1.fc18.noarch.rpm texlive-collection-fontsrecommended-0.svn26699-3.20121019_r28030.fc18.noarch.rpm texlive-courier-0.svn21993-1.fc18.noarch.rpm texlive-euro-1.1.svn22191-1.fc18.noarch.rpm texlive-eurosym-1.4_subrfix.svn17265-1.fc18.noarch.rpm texlive-fpl-1.002.svn15878-1.fc18.noarch.rpm texlive-helvetic-0.svn21993-1.fc18.noarch.rpm texlive-marvosym-2.2a.svn25926-1.fc18.noarch.rpm texlive-mathpazo-1.003.svn15878-1.fc18.noarch.rpm texlive-ncntrsbk-0.svn21993-1.fc18.noarch.rpm texlive-palatino-0.svn21993-1.fc18.noarch.rpm texlive-pxfonts-0.svn15878-1.fc18.noarch.rpm texlive-rsfs-0.svn15878-1.fc18.noarch.rpm texlive-symbol-0.svn21570-1.fc18.noarch.rpm texlive-tex-gyre-2.004.svn18651-1.fc18.noarch.rpm texlive-tex-gyre-math-1.008.svn26838-1.fc18.noarch.rpm texlive-texmf-2007-42.fc18.noarch.rpm texlive-texmf-dvips-2007-42.fc18.noarch.rpm texlive-texmf-fonts-2007-42.fc18.noarch.rpm texlive-times-0.svn21993-1.fc18.noarch.rpm texlive-txfonts-0.svn15878-1.fc18.noarch.rpm texlive-utopia-0.svn15878-1.fc18.noarch.rpm texlive-wasy-0.svn15878-1.fc18.noarch.rpm texlive-wasysym-2.0.svn15878-1.fc18.noarch.rpm texlive-zapfchan-0.svn21993-1.fc18.noarch.rpm texlive-zapfding-0.svn21570-1.fc18.noarch.rpm xdvik-22.84.14-12.fc18.x86_64.rpm xom-1.0-9.fc18.noarch.rpm
I didn't actually look at the package sizes here but imagining these amounting to > 100M is hard. To add to the insult, AFAICS the thing dragging in all this texlive font stuff is dvipdfmx, a package which is not only obsoleted but also has broken dependencies:
the texlive bits should all now be blocked. what i would rather is a report of obsoleted things that we could then dig into and take propper action to clean up rather than blindly removing things.
Do note that texlives packaging is insane. what you see is certanly not due to normal packaging.
Dennis
On 11/19/2012 03:37 AM, Dennis Gilmore wrote:
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El Wed, 14 Nov 2012 09:19:59 +0200 Panu Matilainen pmatilai@laiskiainen.org escribió:
On 11/13/2012 08:44 PM, Bill Nottingham wrote:
Panu Matilainen (pmatilai@laiskiainen.org) said:
Inspired by recent fedora-devel list discussion, here's a patch to save some space from images by excluding obsoleted packages. Arguably those packages should just die and not hang around in the repos, but these undead packages seem fairly persistent...
This is what I see with F18 install DVD:
Before patch: -rw-r--r--. 1 root root 4687134720 Nov 12 21:10 Fedora-18-x86_64-DVD.iso
With the patch: -rw-r--r--. 1 root root 4550819840 Nov 12 21:01 Fedora-18-x86_64-DVD.iso
The idea of the patch makes sense, but I'm surprised that what you list below really amounts to 130MB off the DVD, given that the biggest package is grub's 6MB. There could be dependencies that fall off, but that many?
Sorry, should've obviously included this info to start with... Here's the entire list of packages dropped from the iso with the patch:
dvipdfm-0.13.2d-44.fc18.x86_64.rpm dvipdfmx-0-0.35.20090708cvs.fc18.x86_64.rpm dvipng-1.14-4.fc18.x86_64.rpm grub-0.97-91.fc18.x86_64.rpm jaxen-bootstrap-1.1-6.2.fc18.noarch.rpm libpaper-1.1.24-5.fc18.x86_64.rpm maven-shared-dependency-tree-1.3-24.fc18.noarch.rpm nfs-utils-lib-1.1.5-7.fc18.x86_64.rpm ql2100-firmware-1.19.38-6.fc18.noarch.rpm ql2200-firmware-2.02.08-6.fc18.noarch.rpm ql23xx-firmware-3.03.28-4.fc18.noarch.rpm rt61pci-firmware-1.2-10.fc18.noarch.rpm rt73usb-firmware-1.8-10.fc18.noarch.rpm texlive-avantgar-0.svn21993-1.fc18.noarch.rpm texlive-bookman-0.svn21993-1.fc18.noarch.rpm texlive-charter-0.svn15878-1.fc18.noarch.rpm texlive-cmextra-0.svn14075-1.fc18.noarch.rpm texlive-cm-super-0.svn15878-1.fc18.noarch.rpm texlive-collection-fontsrecommended-0.svn26699-3.20121019_r28030.fc18.noarch.rpm texlive-courier-0.svn21993-1.fc18.noarch.rpm texlive-euro-1.1.svn22191-1.fc18.noarch.rpm texlive-eurosym-1.4_subrfix.svn17265-1.fc18.noarch.rpm texlive-fpl-1.002.svn15878-1.fc18.noarch.rpm texlive-helvetic-0.svn21993-1.fc18.noarch.rpm texlive-marvosym-2.2a.svn25926-1.fc18.noarch.rpm texlive-mathpazo-1.003.svn15878-1.fc18.noarch.rpm texlive-ncntrsbk-0.svn21993-1.fc18.noarch.rpm texlive-palatino-0.svn21993-1.fc18.noarch.rpm texlive-pxfonts-0.svn15878-1.fc18.noarch.rpm texlive-rsfs-0.svn15878-1.fc18.noarch.rpm texlive-symbol-0.svn21570-1.fc18.noarch.rpm texlive-tex-gyre-2.004.svn18651-1.fc18.noarch.rpm texlive-tex-gyre-math-1.008.svn26838-1.fc18.noarch.rpm texlive-texmf-2007-42.fc18.noarch.rpm texlive-texmf-dvips-2007-42.fc18.noarch.rpm texlive-texmf-fonts-2007-42.fc18.noarch.rpm texlive-times-0.svn21993-1.fc18.noarch.rpm texlive-txfonts-0.svn15878-1.fc18.noarch.rpm texlive-utopia-0.svn15878-1.fc18.noarch.rpm texlive-wasy-0.svn15878-1.fc18.noarch.rpm texlive-wasysym-2.0.svn15878-1.fc18.noarch.rpm texlive-zapfchan-0.svn21993-1.fc18.noarch.rpm texlive-zapfding-0.svn21570-1.fc18.noarch.rpm xdvik-22.84.14-12.fc18.x86_64.rpm xom-1.0-9.fc18.noarch.rpm
I didn't actually look at the package sizes here but imagining these amounting to > 100M is hard. To add to the insult, AFAICS the thing dragging in all this texlive font stuff is dvipdfmx, a package which is not only obsoleted but also has broken dependencies:
the texlive bits should all now be blocked. what i would rather is a report of obsoleted things that we could then dig into and take propper action to clean up rather than blindly removing things.
Well, the packages excluded due to direct obsoletion are reported by the patch, the rest of the difference is dependencies of those obsoleted packages. Pungi doesn't generally report what got left out, only what got pulled in and why... While recursively reporting everything left out due to obsoletion would be possible, it doesn't seem worth the trouble to me.
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