Fedora 中文組郵件列表 February 2011

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[FZH] [RFC] 关于中文支持软件包组的改进
by Peng Wu 05 May '11

05 May '11

Hi 大家好, 我是Red Hat i18n Team的吴鹏, 目前我们组正在考虑在Fedora 15的时候，将软件安装过程中的中文支持软件包组，分成简体中文支持和繁体中文支持两个软件包组。主要的目的有： 1. 仅安装简体中文或繁体中文的输入法、字体、语言翻译等；减少安装所需的硬盘空间。请见：Bug 650028 - RFE allow lists of locales for language groups 2. 解决在英文界面下，中文字体显示出现cjkuni-* 和 wqy-* 字体混合的情况; 请见：Bug 644685 - cjkuni-* and wqy-* fonts mixed up 注：在Fedora 13/14的时候，由于用户的偏好，我们将简体中文的界面字体设定为WenQuanYi ZenHei, 将繁体中文的界面字体设定为UMing，这样在中文环境下，界面的字体就不会出现不同字体混排的情况。但是这时引入了新的问题，在英文界面下，GNOME会出现中文字体混排的情况。这是由于界面是英文，pango错误的将部分文字判定为简体中文，部分文字判定为繁体中文。（详见：Bug 644685）如果在安装时，只安装简体中文字体，就不会出现中文字体混排，只安装繁体中文字体，也一样。所以，我们打算将中文支持软件包组，分成简体中文支持和繁体中文支持两个软件包组。 Feel free to comment it. 此致敬礼吴鹏

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[FZH] linux下面有什么比较好用的ssh客户端工具么
by xie yunpeng 18 Mar '11

18 Mar '11

linux下面有类似于secureCRT这类的工具么，现在比较头疼的一件事是，使用gnome terminal想登录服务器以后马上ssh-agent一下目前还没有找到方法，每天都要登录很多服务器，有的服务器没有外网ip，不能直接登录，总是登上一台然后当入口很麻烦还有想知道大家在linux下面是怎么工作的

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[FZH] 这个配置玩Linux怎么样？
by 好大一只鸟 14 Mar '11

14 Mar '11

Hi All 最近准备攒台电脑，大家看看下面这个配置玩Linux如何！可以很好的支持吗？ CPU AMD羿龙II X4 955/黑盒 1个主板技嘉GA-870A-UD3 1个内存威刚2G DDR3 1333万紫千红 2个硬盘西部数据1TB SATA3 32M蓝盘 1个显卡迪兰恒进 HD5850恒金1G 1个刻录机先锋DVR-219CHV 1个 Big Bird Best regards

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[FZH] 有興趣搞嵌入式嗎？ Fwd: [beagleboard] ANNOUNCEMENT: Annual State of the Beagle Report 2011
by Caius 'kaio' Chance 05 Mar '11

05 Mar '11

我買了一塊 xM，大家有沒有興趣搞這個？ ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Jason Kridner <jkridner(a)beagleboard.org> Date: Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 10:22 PM Subject: [beagleboard] ANNOUNCEMENT: Annual State of the Beagle Report 2011 To: Beagle Board <beagleboard(a)googlegroups.com> My apologies for the tardiness of this report. 2010 was the busiest year yet for BeagleBoard.org and the rest of 2011 looks to be even busier with more people learning and teaching about low-power open-source development with the BeagleBoard, more interesting derivative hardware designs and add-ons that improve what you can build with what you've learned, more software distributions supporting the BeagleBoard in their mainline offerings and overall improved experiences as the platform and community evolve. ********************* Google Summer of Code ********************* One of my highlights for 2010 was the BeagleBoard.org mentorship in the Google Summer of Code. We mentored 6 students to successfully complete projects ranging from ARM assembly optimizations within the XBMC media center project to building a USB packet sniffer you can use with your own hardware. There were also projects on optimizing OpenCV, simplifying use of the C6x DSP, performing pulse width modulation and providing an ARM-optimized FFT library. Each of the students was given $5,000 for their efforts by Google and have provided their source code that you can use in your own projects. Hunyue, Vladimir, Mans and I all visited Google for the mentor summit and interacted with hundreds of developers helping to advance the state of open source. We learned that Google is planning to expand the program in 2011, so it is time to get started, so please help update the idea page and register yourself as a prospective mentor if you'd like to participate. For more information, visit http://beagleboard.org/gsoc. ********************************** TI/UT BeagleBoard Design Challenge ********************************** Texas Instruments challenged students at the University of Texas to provide an open source design and present it for the world to vote upon. Several interesting designs were created, including one picked up by PopSci.com. For more information, visit http://www.ti.com/beagleboardchallenge. ******** Projects ******** The sponsored projects program died off last year as very few updates were being provided by the registered projects. Lots of open source software and cool hardware projects continued to be developed with around 1,000 BeagleBoard-related blog posts in 2010 (a bit over 2,500 all-time by my count) that ended up in the BeagleBoard.org RSS feed, but the board giveaways had very little to do with it. If you are someone who is very interested in that program or you have an update regarding your project, there are still giveaways from Gumstix, Always Innovating, Archos and others (including BeagleBoards) if you can show that you've had some interesting progress and want to try putting your code on one of those platforms. If you give good feedback we can update http://beagleboard.org/contest to reflect that feedback and relaunch the program. While significant progress has come from projects like Linaro, Ubuntu, MeeGo and now Yocto providing direct support for the BeagleBoard, I think the real progress in improving the project output will be in improving the http://beagleboard.org/project page to include a database of project build, functionality and test updates. The idea is to create scripts that can be included with project build and test scripts to utilize OAuth to provide database entries that can be browsed quickly to show project activity without ever needing to visit the site. Contact me on IRC for more details if you'd like to contribute. Project source will be part of the website source tree. This will also be something I'll be talking about as part of BeagleCast, something I'll be discussing at the bottom of this report. *********************************** xM Launch, Availability and Pricing *********************************** The big story for 2010 was the launch of the BeagleBoard-xM, which brought the BeagleBoard to 1GHz and 512MB RAM, as well as adding additional USB host ports and Ethernet. The revision has been well received and distributors have had trouble keeping stock on both this revision as well as the pre-xM boards. Digi-Key has been getting hundreds of boards a week of both revisions and the typical wait on back-orders has been under 2 weeks, but every time distributors start to show stock additional orders have come in. The moral of the story is don't wait for the distributors to show stock if you want to get a board--just place your order and you'll get a board pretty quick. CircuitCo is working on increasing its capacity and with large back-orders from distributors being placed ahead of orders from end customers, we expect the situation not to get worse than a few weeks wait and by mid-year to actually have some inventory. Even TI has started placing some orders to try to build up some inventory of xM boards. Gerald had initially built in some pad for purchasing 1GB RAMs after the initial switch-over costs were covered, but we felt a price drop was more in order, enabling us to drop the price of the xM boards enough for some distributors to provide them for as low as $149--the price of the pre-xM board. Improvements in test yields and increased volume purchases also enabled Gerald and CircuitCo to lower the price of the pre-xM board allowing it to be sold at some distributors for just $125. We aren't yet to $99, but I am starting to feel like we could get there at some point in the future. We are still discouraging anyone using the board in production devices without making a direct isolated deal with CircuitCo (or the manufacturer of your choice) such that all our supply doesn't get eaten up for new people getting the platform. (Guys, make your own spin, the TI component pricing is on the web and it can be done at a reasonable cost around the same price for which we are selling the boards today if you can get a fair price on the memories.) Availability of production volume SOM/COMs using the TI DaVinci/Sitara/OMAP devices that are providing migration support from the BeagleBoard are increasing, including AM35x-based boards available for as little as $45 and tiny boards that include WiFi, Bluetooth, GPS and more. Open source hardware reference designs like the AM3517 CraneBoard are meant to further enable such developments. Please support the growth of the BeagleBoard.org and embedded Linux ecosystem by evaluating those solutions and encouraging these vendors to support the mainline distribution projects. Please help me update the http://processors.wiki.ti.com/index.php/OMAP3_Boards wiki page to include these BeagleBoard alternatives and feel free to discuss them on this mailing list, though you likely need to contact the manufacturer to discover the proper support forum if you are having issues related to the hardware or software they provide. ************* What is next? ************* Gerald has some minor modifications planned to the pre-xM and xM boards to bring in the latest revision of power management device, but that should not result in any software impact. Where you are more likely to see differences out-of-the-box on some future board revision this year is in the software distributed on the board. We are encouraging CircuitCo to pull down a more complete copy of the Angstrom Distribution aligned completely with what is being assembled with Narcissus to ship with the boards to better show the functionality. This will in no way prevent you from running Android (as from the Rowboat project), Ubuntu, Yocto, MeeGo, FreeBSD, QNX, Windows Embedded or any other software on your BeagleBoard. If you care about what this software will look like, please review the release candidate images Koen has been posting links on the mailing list and provide feedback. Part of what is motivating an in-the-box distribution release is the need to provide students being educated using the BeagleBoard platform a known starting point that helps them reach success early. The requirements for this effort are being discussed in the BeagleBoard Linux Education Project and seek to improve the materials Mark Yoder has been creating for his university course on embedded Linux. If you care to get involved with this project, introductory details can be found at http://beagleboard.org/linux_education. Be on the lookout for a Google Summer of Code project targeting these requirements. While not a BeagleBoard.org project, 2010 saw the launch of the PandaBoard focused on enabling open source mobile application framework developers access to the latest in mobile applications processors. This has spawned a lot of interest if there would be an OMAP4 or multicore-A9 based BeagleBoard. At this point it isn't clear, but if TI were to provide access to OMAP4 to the broad market (through TI distributors without any volume restrictions), then it would make sense to upgrade the BeagleBoard platform once the end-user experience can be ensured to meet or exceed the experience on the current pre-xM and xM platforms. I can tell you it isn't eminent and that the release process would include the typical discussion of features here on the mailing list before anything was frozen, sampling of boards to active community members (which always results in pictures up on Flickr and discussion on the IRC channel) and a public launch plan. There is certainly a chance that the BeagleBoard won't get updated until Cortex-A15 devices come out, but be assured the BeagleBoard.org effort is focused on longevity and education. In my mind, the BeagleBoard is the premier platform for embedded open source *software* hacking and education thanks to it being extremely low-power, small and capable of running full Linux distributions while having a rich hardware ecosystem. If you are looking for something a bit more modular, in a case, with a battery, it seems to me something like the Bug Labs platform might be the way to go. We even worked on a BeagleBoard-BugAdapter, but never brought it to market as I got my hands on a Bug2.0 and it is more fun just to play with it. Still, hardware hackers cannot be deterred and there are now several registered companion boards [1] starting with our friends over at TinCanTools. While the Zippy combo boards that add Ethernet aren't that popular now that the xM boards incorporated Ethernet on them, their Trainer board might see a bit more life as it is getting picked up for some educational projects on performing I2C and SPI interactions under Linux. The Liquidware BeagleTouch and BeagleJuice add-ons also seem to be enjoying some public success. Some SOM/COM vendors are finding the BeagleBoardPinMux EEPROM ID useful for maintaining a high degree of binary software compatibility with the BeagleBoard. I think the news is that CircuitCo, as part of its BeagleBoardToys brand, is looking to partner with more individuals and small entities looking to bring out more BeagleBoard extending hardware and that might mean a few more options to extend your BeagleBoard hardware in 2011. [1] http://elinux.org/BeagleBoardPinMux#Vendor_and_Device_IDs ************************************ Open Source Shows and the BeagleWall ************************************ I won't even attempt to list all of the open source shows where the BeagleBoard had a presence in 2010 or will have a presence in 2011, but I highly encourage you to get on the mailing list and announce if you are interested in showing off anything you've done at one of the regional shows around the world. My favorite of these show-off demos recently *has* to be the BeagleWall. Originally assembled by folks in the FFmpeg project (notably Mans) and friends over at Archos (Vladimir, the infamous av500), Koen got the TI team in Europe to put together a stand that looks a bit more official (boards aren't lying around on a nearby radiator any more). You can find plenty of pictures of the BeagleWall at FOSDEM 2011 by searching on Flickr and YouTube. Given the sheer number of events, I'm trying to get a bit more organized by placing them in the BeagleBoard.org Google Calender that is now featured on the home page of BeagleBoard.org. I request for you to notify me of any events that you don't see up there and to suggest we discuss the upcoming event on BeagleCast... ********** BeagleCast ********** What the heck is BeagleCast? Well, you can probably tell from the name that Gerald and I are looking to hork in on (meaning to steal) the action of the likes of TWiT (This Week in Tech) and The Amp Hour by doing an audio webcast. This will never get done unless we publicly commit to it, like we are doing right here, right now. Give us a month or so to get the first one out, but this will give us a forum for discussing the challenges being faced by community developers, upcoming open source tradeshows, technology related to high-performance, low-power open source software and hardware and why 26 + 26 = 54. It will also force me to dedicate a set time for tackling the top questions on the mailing list and IRC channel. Of course, this won't take off without getting participation from the community and getting some good guests to talk about the cooler aspects of embedded Linux and DIY computing, so I strongly request for you to submit ideas on guest/permanent hosts, topics, format, etc. You can even call-in with pre-recorded questions. If you couldn't tell from visiting #beagle in the past, heavy doses of sarcasm are encouraged. Here's where to provide the inputs and call-ins: http://bit.ly/bcsuggest +1 (713) 234-0535 http://beagleboard.blogspot.com may have a Google Voice widget, depending on your Flash settings and if the current sun flare activity. That's it! See you on the intertubes! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Beagle Board" group. To post to this group, send email to beagleboard(a)googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to beagleboard+unsubscribe(a)googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/beagleboard?hl=en. -- Regards ☺ Caius 'kaio' Chance Fedora Project Contributor - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Kaio [IRC] kaio @ freenode | [Twitter] @K410 | [Blog] kaio.net

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[FZH] gvim打不开……
by kfihihc＠gmail.com 28 Feb '11

28 Feb '11

看到输出的信息如下： (gvim:10922): Gtk-WARNING **: Invalid input string (gvim:10922): Gtk-WARNING **: Invalid input string Vim: 拦截到致命信号(deadly signal) SEGV Vim: 结束。这是什么bug啊……貌似是7.3后才用的。有同学知道怎么解决的么？

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[FZH] 请教一下ATI的显卡驱动应该怎么装
by 成立 28 Feb '11

28 Feb '11

官网上的驱动装完就变成了刷屏，Radeon HD 3200

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[FZH] 不知道这个建议怎么样
by Dee.H.Y 28 Feb '11

28 Feb '11

个人感觉在Gnome3中应该是隐藏菜单栏的，这个不论是MacOS还是在windows7中都是那么做的了。但是在最近几次的Gnome3的界面中，这个东西还是存在的。不知道是不是应该建议开发团队隐藏掉。既然最大最小的按钮都能没有了这个算啥？

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[FZH] fedora下无线网卡问题
by ajax he 27 Feb '11

27 Feb '11

照网上做的yum install kmod-wl，重启电，编辑连接，在移动宽带中添加，选择unicom，其他按照默认选项，输入用户名和密码，点击应用，显示错误：Saving connection failed: (0) Can't write connection type 'gsm'。按照另外一种方法: 终端输入 lspci | grep Network 没有输出。直接输入 lspci 内容如下： 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Memory Controller Hub (rev 07) 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 07) 00:02.1 Display controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 07) 00:1a.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB UHCI Controller #4 (rev 03) 00:1a.1 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB UHCI Controller #5 (rev 03) 00:1a.2 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB UHCI Controller #6 (rev 03) 00:1a.7 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB2 EHCI Controller #2 (rev 03) 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 03) 00:1c.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) PCI Express Port 1 (rev 03) 00:1c.1 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) PCI Express Port 2 (rev 03) 00:1c.2 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) PCI Express Port 3 (rev 03) 00:1c.3 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) PCI Express Port 4 (rev 03) 00:1c.4 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) PCI Express Port 5 (rev 03) 00:1c.5 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) PCI Express Port 6 (rev 03) 00:1d.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB UHCI Controller #1 (rev 03) 00:1d.1 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB UHCI Controller #2 (rev 03) 00:1d.2 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB UHCI Controller #3 (rev 03) 00:1d.7 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB2 EHCI Controller #1 (rev 03) 00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801 Mobile PCI Bridge (rev 93) 00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation ICH9M LPC Interface Controller (rev 03) 00:1f.2 SATA controller: Intel Corporation ICH9M/M-E SATA AHCI Controller (rev 03) 00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) SMBus Controller (rev 03) 02:00.0 System peripheral: JMicron Technologies, Inc. SD/MMC Host Controller 02:00.2 SD Host controller: JMicron Technologies, Inc. Standard SD Host Controller 02:00.3 System peripheral: JMicron Technologies, Inc. MS Host Controller 02:00.4 System peripheral: JMicron Technologies, Inc. xD Host Controller 08:00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8111/8168B PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet controller (rev 03) 。 PS：我的无线网卡已经在windows7中配置成功，能够正常上网。谢谢！

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[FZH] Linux中的声音体系
by dhyang 27 Feb '11

27 Feb '11

在一个从源码编译的系统中（非Fedora ）编译ALSA之前，未安装pulseaudio，然后编译gstreamer及相关插件，再之后编译audacious. 此时无论Totem或Audacious都可播放音频文件。但不能同时发声。此时解码过程应该是这样：音频/视频-------------------->Totem-------------------->gstreamer------------------->ALSA混音音频/视频-------------------->Audacious------------------->ALSA混音为了同时发声，编译Pulseaudio后，再重新编译ALSA库，打开Pulseaudio支持开关。然后再编译Gstreamer和Audacious，分别打开Pulseaudio支持。此时解码过程应试是这样的：音频/视频-------------------->gstreamer------------------->声音服务器混音（pulseaudio，ESound等等)------------------->ALSA(驱动) ^ | 音频/视频-------------------->Audacious-------------------------------- 这样不会独占声卡，顺利实现Totem和Audacious同时发音。事实证明也是如此。但在播放flash时，Audacious/Totem都不能发声，Google搜索后，说是Adobe的官方插件直接使用ALSA混音。所以造成声卡独占。但是在Fedora中Flash和Audacious/Totem却可以同时发声。有人知道这是怎么实现的么？

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[FZH] fedora14 Totem 浏览器插件默认静音
by shaoning 27 Feb '11

27 Feb '11

hi 各位我的fc14的totem 浏览器插件默认静音, 听歌的时候还得自己调整，各位有什么办法没？

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Fedora 中文組郵件列表 February 2011