We are just a few weeks away from the Fedora 14 release, and actually
having a new version of Fedora on EC2. This has been *the* major goal
over the past, well, 10 months since this list was created, and I'm
delighted that it is finally coming together. (Thank you, Justin, for
doing all of this work, and everyone else who has been working on
supporting his efforts and helping out with behind-the-scenes stuff
like talking to Amazon and writing documentation and asking
questions!)
Of course, this is Fedora, and I know a lot of us are thinking about
*what we can do next*. So I'd like to have a discussion here on our
friendly mailing-list about some of the things we'd like to do in F15
(and beyond!).
First off: We have a lot of stuff in the pipeline that I think we
could submit to the Feature List for Fedora 15. What is this "stuff,"
you might ask?
* OpenStack - We already have the Swift portion of this in, and Nova
is in the pipeline. (Thanks, silassewell.) http://www.openstack.org
* Deltacloud - I'm not sure how far along this is, or if it's possible
that this could be fully in for F15, or if there are clearly definable
portions that could be F15 features. Anyone from Deltacloud - can you
pipe in here? :) http://deltacloud.org/
* BoxGrinder - Marek Goldmann is working on packaging.
http://www.jboss.org/boxgrinder
* Eucalyptus - obino has been looking for some mentorship as far as
packaging goes. If there are folks around to help out with this, I
think it would be awesome to have as a feature. Is anyone willing to
help out here? http://open.eucalyptus.com/
* Sheepdog - Steven Dake is working on this. http://www.osrg.net/sheepdog/
Additionally, we probably have further enhancements we could make on
the EC2 front - namely, having really awesome documentation, which
Sparks has been poking the list on since he'd love to help us out
there. What other EC2-related enhancements are there for us to tackle?
But what I am interested in is - what do YOU guys think about what we
could, or even *should*, be doing? Are there other cloud tools,
implementations, projects, etc. we should be looking at? What are
they? What should Fedora's ongoing cloud-sig focus be?
Yes, I know, I'm full of questions. :)
Cheers,
-Robyn
Meeting Details: Thursday, 2010/10/28 @2100 UTC (In NA - East coast,
5pm; West coast, 2pm.)
Meeting channel: #fedora-meeting, irc.freenode.net
Other details are available at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Cloud_SIG.
See you there!
-Robyn
Indeed, one of the great advantages of other distros is that you can
fire them up on EC2 easily, as they have official AMIs. (At least the
one I've been using to learn about EC2.) There are not, however,
Fedora, so it is important that this situation changes.
I've read through the archives and I can't find the AMI for Fedora 14
that is mentioned on the Wiki.
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/EC2
It would be ideal to have an official Fedora AMI, that would accept
some form of boot script through the API, and then some way for a
person to host RPMs.
--
Alan Gutierrez - alan(a)prettyrobots.com - http://twitter.com/bigeasy
Hi All,
For those that are interested in playing with the Amazon cloud
(presumably with the new Fedora 14 ami ;-) ) Amazon is introducing an
AWS Free Usage Tier from Nov 1. Details here
http://aws.amazon.com/free/
Cheers,
Peter
I would like to see cloud (and livecd) images built in a more standardized manor:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/KojiImages
- Jay
----- "Robyn Bergeron" <robyn.bergeron(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> We are just a few weeks away from the Fedora 14 release, and actually
> having a new version of Fedora on EC2. This has been *the* major
> goal
> over the past, well, 10 months since this list was created, and I'm
> delighted that it is finally coming together. (Thank you, Justin, for
> doing all of this work, and everyone else who has been working on
> supporting his efforts and helping out with behind-the-scenes stuff
> like talking to Amazon and writing documentation and asking
> questions!)
>
> Of course, this is Fedora, and I know a lot of us are thinking about
> *what we can do next*. So I'd like to have a discussion here on our
> friendly mailing-list about some of the things we'd like to do in F15
> (and beyond!).
>
> First off: We have a lot of stuff in the pipeline that I think we
> could submit to the Feature List for Fedora 15. What is this "stuff,"
> you might ask?
>
> * OpenStack - We already have the Swift portion of this in, and Nova
> is in the pipeline. (Thanks, silassewell.) http://www.openstack.org
> * Deltacloud - I'm not sure how far along this is, or if it's
> possible
> that this could be fully in for F15, or if there are clearly
> definable
> portions that could be F15 features. Anyone from Deltacloud - can
> you
> pipe in here? :) http://deltacloud.org/
> * BoxGrinder - Marek Goldmann is working on packaging.
> http://www.jboss.org/boxgrinder
> * Eucalyptus - obino has been looking for some mentorship as far as
> packaging goes. If there are folks around to help out with this, I
> think it would be awesome to have as a feature. Is anyone willing to
> help out here? http://open.eucalyptus.com/
> * Sheepdog - Steven Dake is working on this.
> http://www.osrg.net/sheepdog/
>
> Additionally, we probably have further enhancements we could make on
> the EC2 front - namely, having really awesome documentation, which
> Sparks has been poking the list on since he'd love to help us out
> there. What other EC2-related enhancements are there for us to
> tackle?
>
> But what I am interested in is - what do YOU guys think about what we
> could, or even *should*, be doing? Are there other cloud tools,
> implementations, projects, etc. we should be looking at? What are
> they? What should Fedora's ongoing cloud-sig focus be?
>
> Yes, I know, I'm full of questions. :)
>
> Cheers,
>
> -Robyn
> _______________________________________________
> cloud mailing list
> cloud(a)lists.fedoraproject.org
> https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/cloud
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I've started a Cloud Guide for Fedora where documentation can be
formalized and made public. Currently I'm considering the following
chapters:
1) Introduction - What is cloud computing and how can people use Fedora
in the cloud.
2) Image - How to make a Fedora image for cloud computing.
3) Amazon EC2 - How to utilize that image on Amazon EC2.
Is there any documentation that I can utilize to start these chapters?
Are there any other topics that need to be covered?
- --Eric
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I've posted the package requirements needing a reviewer to the
OpenStack wiki page.
I submitted python-gflags, python-mox and python-redis so I ensure
those are fixed/submitted quickly. Both python-amqplib and
python-carrot were submitted by someone else and as such may or may
not take longer.
I'll ping this list again once I have a openstack-nova review up.
OpenStack wiki page: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Cloud_SIG/OpenStack
--
Silas Sewell | www.silassewell.com
Thanks to everyone for coming! EC2 is coming right along. We've also
got folks (thanks, silassewell!) working on packaging the OpenStack
nova package, and combined with the already packaged swift portion -
this should make a great feature in F15.
Speaking of F15: I know that F14 is right around the corner - but if
you have any ideas *now* about things that you'd like to do in the
Cloud SIG for F15, drop a line to the mailing list, or come to the
next meeting!
Minutes and links to the log follow below.
See you next week!
Cheers,
Robyn
Minutes: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2010-10-21/fedora-meeting.2…
Full Log: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2010-10-21/fedora-meeting.2…
==========================
#fedora-meeting: Cloud SIG
==========================
Meeting started by rbergeron at 21:00:48 UTC. The full logs are
available at
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2010-10-21/fedora-meeting.2…
.
Meeting summary
---------------
* EC2 status (rbergeron, 21:01:53)
* ACTION: rbergeron poke sparks to talk to jforbes about docs
(rbergeron, 21:13:10)
* mdomsch to wait for amazon to let him know on yum repo hosting and
tools (rbergeron, 21:21:45)
* jforbes would really like the full infrastructure piece (yum repos
and such) to be a feature in F15 and hopefully done early :)
(rbergeron, 21:22:10)
* Any other business? (rbergeron, 21:23:11)
* LINK: http://nova.openstack.org/getting.started.html#dependencies
(rbergeron, 21:30:22)
* LINK: https://launchpad.net/nova/+download (silassewell, 21:38:54)
* LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Cloud_SIG#Current_Projects
(rbergeron, 21:40:25)
* ACTION: silassewell to make wiki page for tracking OpenStack status
(rbergeron, 21:41:53)
* LINK: http://deltacloud.org/page/Packaging_list (rbergeron,
21:43:44)
* Would be great to see OpenStack and Deltacloud as features in F15
(rbergeron, 21:45:46)
* jgreguske would like to propose image building as an F15 feature as
well, after dgilmore tests out spin-appliance in koji (rbergeron,
21:46:10)
Meeting ended at 21:53:41 UTC.
Action Items
------------
* rbergeron poke sparks to talk to jforbes about docs
* silassewell to make wiki page for tracking OpenStack status
Action Items, by person
-----------------------
* jforbes
* rbergeron poke sparks to talk to jforbes about docs
* rbergeron
* rbergeron poke sparks to talk to jforbes about docs
* silassewell
* silassewell to make wiki page for tracking OpenStack status
* **UNASSIGNED**
* (none)
People Present (lines said)
---------------------------
* rbergeron (73)
* mdomsch (34)
* jforbes (13)
* silassewell (10)
* jgreguske (9)
* jds2001 (6)
* skvidal (5)
* zodbot (5)
* obino (5)
* Sparks (2)
* smooge (2)
* prabindatta (1)
* dgilmore (1)
Meeting Details: Thursday, 2010/10/21 @2100 UTC (In NA - East coast,
5pm; West coast, 2pm.)
Meeting channel: #fedora-meeting, irc.freenode.net
Other details are available at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Cloud_SIG.
See you there!
-Robyn