cloud January 2011

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Kickstart a Fedora (Anaconda) Install on EC2
by Raphaël De GIUSTI 21 Mar '11

21 Mar '11

Hi everyone, I've been playing around with Amazon EC2, building my own Centos and Fedora EBS backed AMI's without much trouble, following tutorials and other practices I found on the internet. But one thing I'd like to do, and I tried to do, is kickstarting an installation using anaconda. So I would have an minimal AMI that only contains a /boot directory with vmlinuz and initrd + a /boot/grub/menu.lst file that would look like this : default 0 timeout 3 title RH-Like-OS root (hd0,0) kernel /boot/vmlinuz ks=http://some.server/myks.cfg initrd /boot/initrd.img And it would parse my ks, start anaconda and go on with the install. The further I managed to go is to the partioning step with Centos55. If someone's interested, there's my unanswered thread on amazon aws' forums https://forums.aws.amazon.com/message.jspa?messageID=216575#216575 Same process with Fedora 14 only brings me to pvgrub reading the menu.lst, then failing on a mmu_update. So, here come my questions: I was wondering what, technically speaking, prevents me from doing this. And maybe I would understand why everyone is building the system from scratch and why I did not find anyone who tried to do the same thing. Note that I'm not an expert at linux kernels or boot processes, but I'm quite curious, and I would really appreciate if you could help me understand :-) Thank you. raphdg

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two-factor auth for Fedora in "the cloud?"
by Brian LaMere 29 Jan '11

29 Jan '11

Anyone have luck setting up two-factor auth for Fedora in "the Cloud" - preferably, at AWS? Yes, I got one of the token generators discussed at http://aws.amazon.com/mfa/ However, those only appear to help with authentication to (per the faq): - Secure pages on the AWS Portal (http://aws.amazon.com) - AWS Management Console (https://console.aws.amazon.com) What if I need to multi-factor auth to the instances themselves? Anyone know if there's a service out there that does this for Fedora (or RedHat, which can easily be made to work for...) instances in the "cloud?" I'm used to doing this locally and then making the remote systems only allow access via a limited number of machines (which themselves do 2-factor). I'm now in a situation though with every workstation being outside the trust zone completely, VPN not being something that could change that (too many details...), and thus needing to accomplish the 2-factor in the cloud itself. Most of the results from "two factor authentication cloud" I get are about cloud-based providers authenticating the local machines...versus what I need, which is a service that I can auth cloud-based machines against for the second factor. I know of many industries that would *have* to have a 2-factor solution to use cloud instances, so surely my google-fu is just not working...anyone gone down this road themselves yet? Brian

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anyone still looking for roommies at FUDConn?
by Brian LaMere 28 Jan '11

28 Jan '11

So much busy...and come 1pm thursdays, there's just been something that came up. That said, I'm running away to something called "FUDConn" this weekend, and am listed as lookin for a roommie but I think the "V" in the box two columns over might have scared people. So, don't let that fool you, I'm not going to eat your shirts, even if they are cotton! In all seriousness, anyone on the list going, interested in a roommie, but doesn't have one? Brian

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Virtualization and HotPlugging/swapping
by Renich Bon Ciric 26 Jan '11

26 Jan '11

Hello guys! I'm in direct contact with the guys @ CloudSigma. I've asked them to support CPU, RAM and HDD hot swapping and they say their system is capable of this but that linux (particularly, Fedora) isn't. They agree to do some testing on the subject but, honestly, I don't consider myself to be sufficiently knowledgeable to lead this. Is there anybody here interested on this? Anyway, their lead dev told them this: "Libvirt doesn't do any of this stuff itself (hot swapping). What it does include is an ability to use the virtio balloon driver. This essentially allows you to give a guest a large amount of ram, with it then voluntarily lending some of that memory back to the system. It requires a degree of cooperation and trust between host and guest that isn't appropriate (or easy to bill) in a public cloud, but it's a useful hack on private VM deployments in the absence of proper memory hotswap in qemu-kvm." I've read some stuff here: http://www.linux-kvm.org/page/CPUHotPlug It's hard to be free... but I love to struggle. Love isn't asked for; it's just given. Respect isn't asked for; it's earned! Renich Bon Ciric http://www.woralelandia.com/ http://www.introbella.com/

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Cloud SIG Meeting minutes - 2011/01/20
by Robyn Bergeron 21 Jan '11

21 Jan '11

Hello Cloud folks, near and far: Full minutes for today's meeting are below. I am looking forward to seeing many of you next week at FUDCon. We will still be having a meeting next week beforehand. :) Minutes: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2011-01-20/cloud_sig.2011-0… Full Logs: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2011-01-20/cloud_sig.2011-0… -Robyn ========================== #fedora-meeting: Cloud SIG ========================== Meeting started by rbergeron at 21:00:15 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2011-01-20/cloud_sig.2011-0… . Meeting summary --------------- * Roll call! :) (rbergeron, 21:00:33) * Agenda (rbergeron, 21:02:20) * EC2 (rbergeron, 21:03:38) * dgilmore has a working image build, 32bit tweaks just need to be added (rbergeron, 21:05:47) * once AMI images are in koji we can put links to them (probably on cloud SIG page) (rbergeron, 21:10:56) * ACTION: mgoldmann to ping obino at somepoint re: BG plugin / eucalyptus (rbergeron, 21:16:10) * ACTION: jforbes to send obino appliance file that was working in BG, see logs for more how-to (rbergeron, 21:16:46) * BoxGrinder (rbergeron, 21:18:46) * BG 0.8.0 will hopefully be released this week, if not - before FUDCon - we can see it there! :) (rbergeron, 21:20:43) * last plugin is currently being reviewed and should be done shortly (rbergeron, 21:20:54) * LINK: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Planet_HowTo (rbergeron, 21:24:57) * CloudFS (rbergeron, 21:25:13) * packaging for multi-tenancy and encryption bits is in progress (rbergeron, 21:26:47) * LINK: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Schedule (rbergeron, 21:30:29) * Aeolus / Deltacloud (rbergeron, 21:32:42) * Check out aeolus -there was a note from clalance on the mailing list on Deltacloud --> Aeolus Project (rbergeron, 21:38:45) * FUDCon (rbergeron, 21:40:40) * ACTION: Be completely responsible adults at FUDCon and have a cloud SIG get together (rbergeron, 21:46:20) Meeting ended at 21:47:56 UTC. Action Items ------------ * mgoldmann to ping obino at somepoint re: BG plugin / eucalyptus * jforbes to send obino appliance file that was working in BG, see logs for more how-to * Be completely responsible adults at FUDCon and have a cloud SIG get together Action Items, by person ----------------------- * jforbes * jforbes to send obino appliance file that was working in BG, see logs for more how-to * mgoldmann * mgoldmann to ping obino at somepoint re: BG plugin / eucalyptus * obino * mgoldmann to ping obino at somepoint re: BG plugin / eucalyptus * jforbes to send obino appliance file that was working in BG, see logs for more how-to * **UNASSIGNED** * Be completely responsible adults at FUDCon and have a cloud SIG get together People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * rbergeron (93) * mgoldmann (29) * obino (19) * clalance (19) * jforbes (18) * jdarcy (13) * zodbot (3) * bpepple (2) * mmorsi (2) * jsmith (1)

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Tentative Cloud SIG Meeting Reminder: 2011/01/20, 2100 UTC, in #fedora-meeting
by Robyn Bergeron 20 Jan '11

20 Jan '11

Hey there, Fedora Cloud fans - That's right, the subject says "tentative" - as most of you know, the Cloud SIG meeting has a habit of starting at 2100 UTC, which is the end of infrastructure's meeting hour, and we usually wind up kicking them out (sorry, guys!). Infrastructure may or may not be meeting with some folks from Eucalyptus today about the prospects of Fedora having some infrastructure-related things on their servers - and since we're the Cloud SIG, it would probably be a good idea to not kick them out during that discussion :) That said, I think it obviously dovetails nicely with some of the stuff we do in the Cloud SIG - and if their meeting winds up going over, it certainly won't hurt to stick around and watch. And if they don't go over, our meeting will proceed ahead as planned. Thanks! Meeting Details: Thursday, 2011/01/20 @2100 UTC (In NA - East coast, 4pm; West coast, 1pm.) Meeting channel: #fedora-meeting, irc.freenode.net Other details are available at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Cloud_SIG. -Robyn

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Updated aeolus package sets
by Angus Thomas 20 Jan '11

20 Jan '11

There are now updated sets of RPMs at http://repos.fedorapeople.org/repos/aeolus/packages/ for Fedora 13 & 14 and RHEL 6 The following files should enable the relevant repositories: http://repos.fedorapeople.org/repos/aeolus/packages/fedora-aeolus.repo http://repos.fedorapeople.org/repos/aeolus/packages/rhel-aeolus.repo Note that the RHEL packages include dependencies which are met through the "Optional" RHEL child channel. Angus

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Deltacloud Aggregator renamed to Aeolus Conductor
by Chris Lalancette 19 Jan '11

19 Jan '11

All, As promised[1], we have renamed the Deltacloud Aggregator to the Aeolus Conductor. The new website is http://www.aeolusproject.org. The now-obsolete deltacloud git repositories have been left in place, but set read-only; new code will be committed to the aeolus repositories (links to these are at the website). The yum repositories with in-progress packages have been moved from http://repos.fedorapeople.org/deltacloud/appliance to http://repos.fedorapeople.org/aeolus/packages . There is also a new mailing list for Aeolus development, aeolus-devel(a)fedorahosted.org [2]. The old mailing list will continue to function for now, but those who mail to that list will be gently asked to repost to aeolus-devel. As usual, any questions, comments, or requests for clarification are welcome. -- Chris Lalancette [1] https://fedorahosted.org/pipermail/deltacloud-devel/2011-January/003668.html [2] https://fedorahosted.org/mailman/listinfo/aeolus-devel

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Rename of deltacloud aggregator
by Chris Lalancette 17 Jan '11

17 Jan '11

All, A few months ago we transferred the deltacloud API and core over to the apache foundation. Along with that we have also transferred the name "deltacloud" to apache (at least in spirit, I don't know what the legal situation is). To reduce confusion between the API and what is currently called the deltacloud aggregator, and to give a new home to the sub-projects that the aggregator depends on, we are launching the http://www.aeolusproject.org website. Aeolus is the Greek god of wind, so we think it fits in nicely with the cloud theme. The aggregator will be formally renamed to "Aeolus Conductor", and several of the subprojects that the Conductor depends on will be added to the website. The old deltacloud git repositories will be marked read-only, and new development will happen in the aeolus repositories. Additionally, http://deltacloud.org will be modified to redirect to the apache incubator page. We plan on making the changes to the mailing lists, git repositories, and website on Monday, Jan 17. The code inside the git repositories will probably continue to use the old names for a little while longer, but we will patch them as quickly as possible. As usual, any questions, comments, or criticisms are welcome. -- Chris Lalancette

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OpenStack packaging status
by Robyn Bergeron 16 Jan '11

16 Jan '11

Hey folks, https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=649495 I know that we've been working on this for quite a while. I know that we're kind of hanging on python-carrot (https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=611054) but I suspect the main package (https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=649495) will also need review. Silas - is there anything we can do to help you along? I know that I (personally, I don't speak for the whole universe) would love to see this go into F15 as a feature - I don't know if that is something you are willing to do, or if someone else is willing to do that work. But, the feature submission deadline is right around the corner on Jan. 25, so if we want to do this, we should really come together on making this happen. Thoughts, anyone? -Robyn

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