cloud November 2015

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[cloud] #137: Regression: fedora:22 tag points to Fedora 20 docker image
by Fedora Cloud Trac Tickets 11 Nov '15

11 Nov '15

#137: Regression: fedora:22 tag points to Fedora 20 docker image ---------------------+-------------------- Reporter: adelton | Owner: Type: task | Status: new Priority: normal | Milestone: Future Component: --- | Keywords: ---------------------+-------------------- {{{ # docker run -ti fedora:22 cat /etc/redhat-release Fedora release 20 (Heisenbug) # docker images fedora REPOSITORY TAG IMAGE ID CREATED VIRTUAL SIZE docker.io/fedora 22 0d071bb732e1 4 weeks ago 290.6 MB }}} Things were sane yesterday when fedora:22 was pointing to ded7cd95e059. -- Ticket URL: <https://fedorahosted.org/cloud/ticket/137> cloud <https://fedorahosted.org/cloud> Fedora Cloud Working Group Ticketing System

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Meeting minutes from 2015-11-11
by Kushal Das 11 Nov '15

11 Nov '15

=========================== #fedora-meeting-1: Cloud WG =========================== Meeting started by kushal at 17:00:57 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2015-11-11/fedora-meeting… . Meeting summary --------------- * Roll Call (kushal, 17:01:03) * Action items from last meeting (kushal, 17:04:19) * ACTION: kushal will blog post about getting more volunteers for manual qa + test coverage. (kushal, 17:11:39) * LINK: https://www.piratepad.ca/p/fedoracloud (kushal, 17:15:50) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/easyfix/ (kushal, 17:16:52) * python3 only means ansible won't work https://fedorahosted.org/cloud/ticket/126 (kushal, 17:17:48) * LINK: https://fedoramagazine.org/getting-ansible-working-fedora-23/ (jbrooks, 17:18:36) * ACTION: dustymabe will do a PR to add ansible steps in https://github.com/fedora-cloud/fedoracloud (kushal, 17:21:10) * Producing Updated Cloud/Atomic Images https://fedorahosted.org/cloud/ticket/94 (kushal, 17:22:53) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/ProductDefinitionCenter (dustymabe, 17:27:51) * Fedora Cloud FAD (late 2015/early 2016) https://fedorahosted.org/cloud/ticket/115 (kushal, 17:29:15) * Migrate all Dockerfiles / Images to systemd where possible https://fedorahosted.org/cloud/ticket/121 (kushal, 17:37:03) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Layered_Docker_Image_Build_Service (adimania, 17:38:59) * fedora-dockerfiles: Clean up READMEs. https://fedorahosted.org/cloud/ticket/122 (kushal, 17:42:39) * Document process for using Fedora-Dockerfile branches https://fedorahosted.org/cloud/ticket/123 (kushal, 17:45:25) * LINK: https://github.com/fedora-cloud/Fedora-Dockerfiles/wiki/Guidelines-for-Crea… (adimania, 17:47:30) * Fedora-Dockerfiles examples for Kubernetes https://fedorahosted.org/cloud/ticket/125 (kushal, 17:48:11) * ACTION: rtnpro will help to create nulecule examples in fedora-dockerfiles (kushal, 17:50:16) * Working with the Server WG https://fedorahosted.org/cloud/ticket/127 (kushal, 17:51:18) * make docker archived image get imported with lowercase tag https://fedorahosted.org/cloud/ticket/131 (kushal, 17:52:53) * Fedora 23 Retrospective https://fedorahosted.org/cloud/ticket/135 (kushal, 17:54:09) * F23 testing left something to be desired (gholms, 17:55:58) * vagrant boxes fixups https://fedorahosted.org/cloud/ticket/136 (kushal, 17:56:25) * Open floor (kushal, 17:56:45) * HELP: If anyone is interested in pitching in to help maintain cloud-init please let me know. (gholms, 18:01:48) Meeting ended at 18:04:24 UTC. Action Items ------------ * kushal will blog post about getting more volunteers for manual qa + test coverage. * dustymabe will do a PR to add ansible steps in https://github.com/fedora-cloud/fedoracloud * rtnpro will help to create nulecule examples in fedora-dockerfiles Action Items, by person ----------------------- * dustymabe * dustymabe will do a PR to add ansible steps in https://github.com/fedora-cloud/fedoracloud * kushal * kushal will blog post about getting more volunteers for manual qa + test coverage. * rtnpro * rtnpro will help to create nulecule examples in fedora-dockerfiles * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * kushal (118) * dustymabe (80) * adimania (28) * maxamillion (24) * zodbot (13) * number80 (11) * gholms (11) * nirik (8) * scollier (5) * fhackdroid (3) * jbrooks (3) * spstarr (2) * rtnpro (1) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot Kushal -- Fedora Cloud Engineer CPython Core Developer CentOS Cloud SIG lead http://kushaldas.in

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[cloud] #127: Working with the Server WG
by Fedora Cloud Trac Tickets 11 Nov '15

11 Nov '15

#127: Working with the Server WG -------------------------------------------+--------------------- Reporter: roshi | Owner: Type: task | Status: new Priority: normal | Milestone: Future Component: Collaboration & Communication | Keywords: meeting -------------------------------------------+--------------------- It was brought up in today's Server WG meeting [0] that they wanted to do some coordination with Workstation and Cloud. Ideas for WS are already there, but some thought should be put into how Server and Cloud can make things easier for both to work together when they're deployed. This ticket is a call to arms for some brain storming on this topic. [0] https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora- meeting-1/2015-10-13/serversig.2015-10-13-15.00.log.html -- Ticket URL: <https://fedorahosted.org/cloud/ticket/127> cloud <https://fedorahosted.org/cloud> Fedora Cloud Working Group Ticketing System

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[cloud] #94: Producing Updated Cloud/Atomic Images
by Fedora Cloud Trac Tickets 11 Nov '15

11 Nov '15

#94: Producing Updated Cloud/Atomic Images ------------------------------+--------------------- Reporter: dustymabe | Owner: Type: task | Status: new Priority: normal | Milestone: Future Component: Cloud Base Image | Keywords: meeting ------------------------------+--------------------- We need to finalize our policy around producing updated images and then start doing it. Right now we have loosely decided to release new images once a month or whenever security updates require it. Additionally, as part of this we should also decide on a policy that determines when we stop updating images for a particular release. I imagine that we don't want to be producing updated images for Fedora X, Y, and Z all at the same time. Ideally we would only be producing updated images for the current/latest major version. -- Ticket URL: <https://fedorahosted.org/cloud/ticket/94> cloud <https://fedorahosted.org/cloud> Fedora Cloud Working Group Ticketing System

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[Fedocal] Reminder meeting : Fedora Cloud Workgroup
by Dusty Mabe 09 Nov '15

09 Nov '15

Dear all, You are kindly invited to the meeting: Fedora Cloud Workgroup on 2015-11-11 from 17:00:00 to 18:00:00 UTC At fedora-meeting-1(a)irc.freenode.net The meeting will be about: Standing meeting for the Fedora Cloud Workgroup Source: https://apps.fedoraproject.org/calendar/meeting/1999/

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Why I'm excited about Atomic for Fedora
by Matthew Miller 09 Nov '15

09 Nov '15

I've spent the last 3+ years asking people what they would like from a guest operating system in the cloud. Sometimes framed as "Why did you choose Fedora?", sometimes as "Why didn't you choose Fedora?", and sometimes basically the generic question. I'd say that overall, the reason people say that they chose what they did was either familiarity, or that they found documentation — or another person — doing a similar thing, and they just followed whatever OS that had. When I ask what they *want*, though, there's a somewhat different story. It's pretty universal, though: a small, simple base without much risk, and a library of components to go on top of that. Fedora Cloud Base is a decent job of being a small base, although we still have a lot of dependency bloat and updates churn. But the library of stuff — languages, services — is difficult. We've got a great set of packages, but they're largely irrelevant, because the versions are usually changing too quickly. Mostly, you've got to bring your own stacks. I'd hoped that we could answer this by slimming down the base and then offering a wide selection of SCLs on top. But, I don't think that's really panning out. The base is way less minimal than I'd like, and I don't know a good way to manage the updates situation. And SCLs are both still somewhat stuck *and* unlikely to explode (in the good sense) if they get unstuck. For people who chose Fedora Cloud already — familiarity, or they found someone else familiar — we're probably okay. No one has anything negative to say about the work we've done — in fact, people who have chosen it generally say good things. I think it's very useful to keep producing Fedora Cloud Base for that group. But... it's a small club. So, enter Atomic Host plus containers. This is, basically, exactly what people have been asking for. The ostree tech brings some order to the base, making updates more reliable and testable. And containers bring us the library of components — at the very least making it easier to bring your own, and ideally providing a new, better way for us to offer different versions, possibly with a different lifecycle. That's why I'd like to move the Cloud Base image to a dedicated cloud.fedoraproject.org page along the lines of http://arm.fedoraproject.org, and replace Cloud with Atomic Host as a top level on <https://arm.fedoraproject.org/>, and to rename Cloud WG to Atomic WG (but still keeping the Cloud SIG to work on the Base image). This is all just my 2¢, but I hope you'll consider them 2¢ with a lot of prior listening. If you have a counter story which will help us significantly grow adoption of Cloud Base *instead*, I'd love to hear it. -- Matthew Miller <mattdm(a)fedoraproject.org> Fedora Project Leader

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New post about vagrant images in atlas
by Dusty Mabe 06 Nov '15

06 Nov '15

Sending this to marketing and the cloud list.. I have written a post promoting our vagrant images (now indexed in atlas). Can I get some feedback on this and possibly out to the magazine? https://gist.github.com/dustymabe/f4db1ef857260d216ab2 Dusty

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Cloud Meeting Minutes 2015-11-04
by Dusty Mabe 05 Nov '15

05 Nov '15

html version: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2015-11-04/fedora-meeting… full log: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2015-11-04/fedora-meeting… =========================== #fedora-meeting-1: cloud_wg =========================== Meeting started by dustymabe at 17:03:51 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2015-11-04/fedora-meeting… . Meeting summary --------------- * rollcall (dustymabe, 17:04:04) * ACTION: dustymabe to integrate cloud WG and 2 week atomic efforts (dustymabe, 17:08:27) * ACTION: dustymabe to close ticket 94 and open a couple more specific tickets (dustymabe, 17:08:33) * Migrate all Dockerfiles / Images to systemd where possible (dustymabe, 17:19:56) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/cloud/ticket/121 (dustymabe, 17:20:05) * fedora-dockerfiles: Clean up READMEs. (dustymabe, 17:24:12) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/cloud/ticket/122 (dustymabe, 17:24:19) * Document process for using Fedora-Dockerfile branches (dustymabe, 17:26:17) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/cloud/ticket/123 (dustymabe, 17:26:23) * Fedora-Dockerfiles examples for Kubernetes (dustymabe, 17:28:12) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/cloud/ticket/125 (dustymabe, 17:28:18) * https://fedorahosted.org/cloud/ticket/125 (dustymabe, 17:30:35) * Working with the Server WG (dustymabe, 17:30:42) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/cloud/ticket/127 (dustymabe, 17:30:49) * make docker archived image get imported with lowercase tag (dustymabe, 17:31:48) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/cloud/ticket/131 (dustymabe, 17:31:55) * LINK: https://getfedora.org/en/cloud/download/docker.html (dustymabe, 17:32:53) * ACTION: dustymabe to get website updated for docker image tags issue (dustymabe, 17:39:15) * open floor (dustymabe, 17:39:26) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/cloud/ticket/133 (dustymabe, 17:40:16) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/cloud/ticket/135 (jzb, 17:54:02) * LINK: http://fedimg.readthedocs.org/en/latest/services/ec2/ (maxamillion, 17:57:05) * LINK: https://apps.fedoraproject.org/autocloud/jobs/ (mattdm, 17:58:15) Meeting ended at 18:00:09 UTC. Action Items ------------ * dustymabe to integrate cloud WG and 2 week atomic efforts * dustymabe to close ticket 94 and open a couple more specific tickets * dustymabe to get website updated for docker image tags issue Action Items, by person ----------------------- * dustymabe * dustymabe to integrate cloud WG and 2 week atomic efforts * dustymabe to close ticket 94 and open a couple more specific tickets * dustymabe to get website updated for docker image tags issue * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * dustymabe (123) * spstarr (33) * maxamillion (33) * jzb (30) * mattdm (20) * zodbot (15) * imcleod (7) * scollier (7) * praveenkumar (4) * jbrooks (3) * roshi (2) * Guest38814 (2) * gholms (2) * rtnpro (2) * kushal (1) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot

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OFFLINE November 6-15
by Joe Brockmeier 04 Nov '15

04 Nov '15

Hey all, Just a quick note to say I will be hard offline from 6 November to 15 November. Not sure how decent the Internet connectivity will be where I'm at, but I don't really plan on looking at email very often in any event. Best, jzb -- Joe Brockmeier | Community Team, OSAS jzb(a)redhat.com | http://community.redhat.com/ Twitter: @jzb | http://dissociatedpress.net/

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F23 rpm-ostree remote is not updating
by Dusty Mabe 02 Nov '15

02 Nov '15

Is there a reason the ostree remote for f23 ( https://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/fedora/linux/atomic/23/) hasn't been updated since "Wed 28 Oct 2015 10:50:12 AM UTC" ? -bash-4.3# rpm-ostree upgrade Updating from: fedora-atomic:fedora-atomic/f23/x86_64/docker-host 22 metadata, 29 content objects fetched; 91065 KiB transferred in 58 seconds error: Upgrade target revision 'c61f7516909a643cc6328976b17182240b9b0d7f1d1efaa1b659d99a94b8c388' with timestamp 'Wed 28 Oct 2015 10:50:12 AM UTC' is chronologically older than current revision 'f85f5e7bfc105d6466f53ca1c2e04fa5d5724442bc544b950cf71588d860a041' with timestamp 'Thu 29 Oct 2015 03:54:57 AM UTC'; use --allow-downgrade to permit

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