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Atomic WG Meeting Minutes April 19
by Josh Berkus 28 Apr '17

28 Apr '17

... just for the record, since I forgot them last week. =================================== #fedora-meeting-1: fedora_atomic_wg =================================== Meeting started by jberkus at 17:02:11 UTC. The full logs are available at https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2017-04-19/fedora_atomic… . Meeting summary --------------- * roll call (jberkus, 17:02:22) * previous meeting action items (dustymabe, 17:05:32) * LINK: https://pagure.io/atomic-wg/issue/268 that's mine (jbrooks, 17:06:45) * LINK: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/cloud@lists.fedoraproject.org… (dustymabe, 17:08:26) * Meeting Issues (jberkus, 17:14:59) * ACTION: jbrooks to lead writing up the new support policy and plan for rolling releases (jberkus, 17:26:28) * Open Floor (jberkus, 17:26:53) * LINK: https://github.com/moby/moby/pull/32691 (miabbott, 17:41:25) * LINK: http://www.navops.io/navops-roadshow.html (jberkus, 17:48:15) Meeting ended at 17:54:06 UTC. Action Items ------------ * jbrooks to lead writing up the new support policy and plan for rolling releases Action Items, by person ----------------------- * jbrooks * jbrooks to lead writing up the new support policy and plan for rolling releases * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * dustymabe (91) * jberkus (82) * roshi (18) * zodbot (15) * sayan (11) * jbrooks (8) * miabbott (6) * dgilmore (6) * deuscapturus (5) * walters (3) * yzhang (2) * linuxmodder (1) * gholms (1) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot -- -- Josh Berkus Project Atomic Red Hat OSAS

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Atomic WG Meeting Minutes 2017-04-26
by Dusty Mabe 28 Apr '17

28 Apr '17

summary: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/teams/atomic-wg/atomic-wg.2017-04-26-17.0… full log: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/teams/atomic-wg/atomic-wg.2017-04-26-17.0… ============================ #fedora-meeting-1: atomic-wg ============================ Meeting started by dustymabe at 17:01:50 UTC. The full logs are available at https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2017-04-26/atomic-wg.201… . Meeting summary --------------- * roll call (dustymabe, 17:01:56) * previous meeting action items (dustymabe, 17:05:32) * ACTION: jbrooks to lead writing up the new support policy and plan for rolling (dustymabe, 17:07:54) * fedimg: don't use 'builder' instance for uploading AMIs (dustymabe, 17:08:25) * LINK: https://pagure.io/atomic-wg/issue/269 (dustymabe, 17:08:33) * 2WK Atomic Release Criteria (dustymabe, 17:10:01) * LINK: https://pagure.io/atomic-wg/issue/264 (dustymabe, 17:10:07) * clarify policy on atomic host support for older Fedora "number" releases (dustymabe, 17:10:55) * LINK: https://pagure.io/atomic-wg/issue/228 (dustymabe, 17:11:01) * design, deploy and document Fedora OpenShift Playground (FOSP) (dustymabe, 17:11:39) * LINK: https://pagure.io/atomic-wg/issue/153 (dustymabe, 17:11:45) * LINK: https://pagure.io/atomic-wg/issue/153#comment-432517 (jbrooks, 17:12:51) * containers tickets (dustymabe, 17:14:47) * LINK: https://pagure.io/atomic-wg/issues?status=Open&tags=containers (dustymabe, 17:14:52) * IDEA: <gholms> I'm also prettyy sure it would be a good idea to ask the package's maintainer about that proactively when creating a new container (kushal, 17:18:55) * please review as many containers as you can! (dustymabe, 17:20:36) * open floor (dustymabe, 17:20:44) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/ContainerMinimalImage#Summary (dustymabe, 17:23:37) * LINK: http://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/fedora/linux/releases/test/26_Alpha/Docker/… (dustymabe, 17:25:07) * LINK: https://pagure.io/releng/issue/6619 (dustymabe, 17:27:33) * LINK: https://github.com/projectatomic/atomic-site/issues/423 (jberkus, 17:36:10) Meeting ended at 17:44:59 UTC. Action Items ------------ * jbrooks to lead writing up the new support policy and plan for rolling Action Items, by person ----------------------- * jbrooks * jbrooks to lead writing up the new support policy and plan for rolling * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * dustymabe (147) * jberkus (43) * fatherlinux (29) * maxamillion (26) * roshi (17) * jbrooks (16) * zodbot (15) * kushal (12) * gholms (12) * jzb (10) * walters (7) * miabbott (5) * mrguitar (4) * sayan (3) * nb (2) * yzhang (1) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot

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Re: [atomic-devel] Storage for system containers
by Daniel Walsh 28 Apr '17

28 Apr '17

On 04/27/2017 06:44 AM, Giuseppe Scrivano wrote: > Daniel Walsh <dwalsh(a)redhat.com> writes: > >> On 04/24/2017 01:56 PM, Dusty Mabe wrote: >>> NOTE: please reply-all when responding to this message >>> >>> >>> In Fedora Atomic Host if we use system containers as advertised >>> we end up using `atomic pull --storage ostree` which by default >>> throws images into /var/lib/containers/atomic/. This is on the >>> root filesystem which may be undesirable. >>> >>> Since in Fedora 26 the new version of container-storage-setup allows >>> us greater control over a "CONTAINER_ROOT" should we consider trying >>> to make sure both ostree storage and docker storage get placed under >>> that CONTAINER_ROOT? >>> >>> The current default [1] is to just mount the CONTAINER_ROOT on >>> /var/lib/docker. >>> >>> Dusty >>> >>> [1] https://src.fedoraproject.org/cgit/rpms/docker.git/tree/docker.spec?h=f26#n… >>> >> Perhaps we should just mount a partition at /var or move >> /var/lib/docker to /var/lib/containers/docker and make a symbolic link >> from /var/lib/docker-> /var/lib/containers/docker. > Mounting a partition at /var wouldn't work with system containers. > > System containers are stored in the OSTree storage and on Atomic Host > they are checked out to /ostree/deploy/$OS/var/lib/containers/atomic/ so > that the checkout and the OSTree storage are on the same file system. > This is required to use hard links instead of copying files from OSTree. > > Regards, > Giuseppe Thanks for giving us a clue. This breaks the assumptions that spawned this conversation. We want to keep system containers on the same file system as /usr, and since we use OSTRee and most system containers will match the arch, then we should see a lot of sharing so much smaller disk usage then if they were standard docker images. Dusty what do you think? I guess we should think about increasing the size of the "root" file system to handle the need of system containers.

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[atomic-wg] Issue #256: atomic command changes: prefer file over label
by Tomas Tomecek 27 Apr '17

27 Apr '17

ttomecek added a new comment to an issue you are following: `` I am still working on the PR for atomic. `` To reply, visit the link below or just reply to this email https://pagure.io/atomic-wg/issue/256

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[atomic-wg] Issue #243 `Require DESCRIPTION label for FLIBS containers`
by Josh Berkus 26 Apr '17

26 Apr '17

jberkus reported a new issue against the project: `atomic-wg` that you are following: `` We should require a "description" label in FLIBS containers. This would contain a long, narrative description of the container and how it's supposed to be used, intended for human readability. This would include, for all containers: * what service/software the container provides It would also include all of the following which are applicable to the container: * what purpose it fulfills in a larger infrastructure * what each VOLUME in the container is for and what kinds of storage they need * any details about dependencies on other container images * links to documentation or software project pages * any special requirements the container has (like lots of RAM, or sound server access) * details on any required configuration, or links to documentation on configuration `` To reply, visit the link below or just reply to this email https://pagure.io/atomic-wg/issue/243

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[atomic-wg] Issue #256: atomic command changes: prefer file over label
by Josh Berkus 26 Apr '17

26 Apr '17

The status of the issue: `atomic command changes: prefer file over label` of project: `atomic-wg` has been updated to: Closed as Wontfix by jberkus. https://pagure.io/atomic-wg/issue/256

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[atomic-wg] Issue #256: atomic command changes: prefer file over label
by Josh Berkus 26 Apr '17

26 Apr '17

jberkus added a new comment to an issue you are following: `` Closing, all changes have been made per discussion. `` To reply, visit the link below or just reply to this email https://pagure.io/atomic-wg/issue/256

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Fedora Atomic Host Two Week Release Announcement
by noreply＠fedoraproject.org 26 Apr '17

26 Apr '17

A new Fedora Atomic Host update is available via an OSTree commit: Commit: 3492546bc1ef6bca1bc7801ed6bb0414f90cc96668e067996dba3dee0d83e6c3 Version: 25.113 Existing systems can be upgraded in place via e.g. `atomic host upgrade` or `atomic host deploy`. Corresponding image media for new installations can be downloaded from: https://getfedora.org/en/atomic/download/ Respective signed CHECKSUM files can be found here: https://alt.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/atomic/stable/Fedora-Atomic-25-201704… https://alt.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/atomic/stable/Fedora-Atomic-25-201704… For direct download, the "latest" targets are always available here: https://getfedora.org/atomic_iso_latest https://getfedora.org/atomic_qcow2_latest https://getfedora.org/atomic_raw_latest https://getfedora.org/atomic_vagrant_libvirt_latest https://getfedora.org/atomic_vagrant_virtualbox_latest Filename fetching URLs are available here: https://getfedora.org/atomic_iso_latest_filename https://getfedora.org/atomic_qcow2_latest_filename https://getfedora.org/atomic_raw_latest_filename https://getfedora.org/atomic_vagrant_libvirt_latest_filename https://getfedora.org/atomic_vagrant_virtualbox_latest_filename For more information about the latest targets, please reference the Fedora Cloud Wiki space. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Cloud#Quick_Links Do note that it can take some of the mirrors up to 12 hours to "check-in" at their own discretion. Thank you, Fedora Release Engineering

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Many new dependencies in f25 updates-testing
by Dusty Mabe 26 Apr '17

26 Apr '17

Difference between 25.113 from fedora-atomic/25/x86_64/updates/docker-host and 25.119 from fedora-atomic/25/x86_64/testing/docker-host introduces quite a few new deps: Upgraded: atomic 1.15.1-1.fc25 -> 1.17.1-2.fc25 cockpit-bridge 137-1.fc25 -> 138-1.fc25 cockpit-docker 137-1.fc25 -> 138-1.fc25 cockpit-networkmanager 137-1.fc25 -> 138-1.fc25 cockpit-ostree 137-1.fc25 -> 138-1.fc25 cockpit-system 137-1.fc25 -> 138-1.fc25 emacs-filesystem 1:25.1-3.fc25 -> 1:25.2-1.fc25 kernel 4.10.11-200.fc25 -> 4.10.12-200.fc25 kernel-core 4.10.11-200.fc25 -> 4.10.12-200.fc25 kernel-modules 4.10.11-200.fc25 -> 4.10.12-200.fc25 nspr 4.13.1-1.fc25 -> 4.14.0-2.fc25 nss 3.29.3-1.1.fc25 -> 3.30.2-1.0.fc25 nss-softokn 3.29.5-1.0.fc25 -> 3.30.2-1.0.fc25 nss-softokn-freebl 3.29.5-1.0.fc25 -> 3.30.2-1.0.fc25 nss-sysinit 3.29.3-1.1.fc25 -> 3.30.2-1.0.fc25 nss-tools 3.29.3-1.1.fc25 -> 3.30.2-1.0.fc25 nss-util 3.29.5-1.0.fc25 -> 3.30.2-1.0.fc25 oci-systemd-hook 1:0.1.6-1.gitfe22236.fc25 -> 1:0.1.7-1.git1788cf2.fc25 python3 3.5.3-4.fc25 -> 3.5.3-5.fc25 python3-libs 3.5.3-4.fc25 -> 3.5.3-5.fc25 system-python 3.5.3-4.fc25 -> 3.5.3-5.fc25 system-python-libs 3.5.3-4.fc25 -> 3.5.3-5.fc25 vim-minimal 2:8.0.562-1.fc25 -> 2:8.0.586-1.fc25 Added: binutils-2.26.1-1.fc25.x86_64 deltarpm-3.6-17.fc25.x86_64 dnf-conf-1.1.10-6.fc25.noarch dnf-plugins-core-0.1.21-5.fc25.noarch dwz-0.12-2.fc24.x86_64 elfutils-0.168-1.fc25.x86_64 fpc-srpm-macros-1.0-1.fc25.noarch gdb-headless-7.12.1-48.fc25.x86_64 ghc-srpm-macros-1.4.2-4.fc25.noarch gnat-srpm-macros-4-1.fc25.noarch go-srpm-macros-2-7.fc25.noarch hawkey-0.6.4-3.fc25.x86_64 libcomps-0.1.7-5.fc25.x86_64 libipt-1.5-1.fc25.x86_64 ocaml-srpm-macros-2-4.fc24.noarch patch-2.7.5-3.fc24.x86_64 perl-srpm-macros-1-20.fc25.noarch python-srpm-macros-3-12.fc25.noarch python3-dnf-1.1.10-6.fc25.noarch python3-dnf-plugins-core-0.1.21-5.fc25.noarch python3-hawkey-0.6.4-3.fc25.x86_64 python3-iniparse-0.4-20.fc25.noarch python3-libcomps-0.1.7-5.fc25.x86_64 python3-librepo-1.7.18-3.fc25.x86_64 python3-pygpgme-0.3-18.fc25.x86_64 qt5-srpm-macros-5.7.1-1.fc25.noarch redhat-rpm-config-45-1.fc25.noarch rpm-build-4.13.0.1-1.fc25.x86_64 rpm-plugin-systemd-inhibit-4.13.0.1-1.fc25.x86_64 unzip-6.0-31.fc25.x86_64 zip-3.0-16.fc24.x86_64 What's bringing in all of this stuff? Dusty

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[atomic-wg] Issue #264: 2WK Atomic Release Criteria
by Dusty Mabe 26 Apr '17

26 Apr '17

The status of the issue: `2WK Atomic Release Criteria` of project: `atomic-wg` has been updated to: Closed as Fixed by dustymabe. https://pagure.io/atomic-wg/issue/264

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