Hi rino,

Thanks for your advice.

I'm running Fedora 17 64bit here.

Is Fedora 18 officially released? http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/18/Schedule

I'm most concerned which document shall I follow to install oVirt, document from Fedora project OR from oVirt?  The former document seems obsolete.  Both documents look similar.

B.R. SL

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From: rino villadalmine@gmail.com To: Stephen Liu satimis@yahoo.com; Fedora Cloud SIG cloud@lists.fedoraproject.org Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2012 12:39 PM Subject: Re: About installing oVirt

Ovirt will be supported on Fedora 18 but you can use an external repository.

On Sat, Sep 29, 2012 at 1:30 AM, Stephen Liu satimis@yahoo.com wrote:

Hi all,

...

I'm following; Build and Install Engine RPM http://wiki.ovirt.org/wiki/Build_%26_Install_RPM

to install oVirt on Fedora 17, 64bit.  However some packages are already obsolete, such as maven2

Then I found; Installing maven http://wiki.ovirt.org/wiki/Building_oVirt_engine

Both documents look similar.

But which subsequent steps shall I follow?

Is there a latest version of document on Fedora project for building oVirt?  Please advise.

TIA

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You can get --> http://fedoraproject.org/get-prerelease

OK  Thanks That is pre-release version

More info --> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/oVirt

This is the document which I'm now following after discovering the document of Fedora project is obsolete.

http://wiki.ovirt.org/wiki/Documentation

->

http://wiki.ovirt.org/wiki/Build_%26_Install_RPM This document is obsolete.  Some packages already don't exist anymore.

http://blog.jebpages.com/archives/tag/ovirt/

I have been following this thread for several weeks but can't get the result as that displayed on the video

http://middleswarth.net/content/installing-ovirt-31-and-glusterfs-using-eith...

I'm NOT running NFS nor Posix here.  If oVirt needs bare metal to run I'll find a Hard drive installing NFS/Posix and testing it.  If oVirt works on Virtual Machine then I'll install NFS/Posix on VM of VirtualBox.  I have a PC running VirtualBox here, host Ubuntu 12.04 64bit

Thanks B.R. SL

Enjoy it :)

I installed ovirt in F17 using the las two wikis ...

On Sat, Sep 29, 2012 at 2:02 AM, Stephen Liu satimis@yahoo.com wrote:

Hi rino,

...

Thanks for your advice.

I'm running Fedora 17 64bit here.

Is Fedora 18 officially released? http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/18/Schedule

I'm most concerned which document shall I follow to install oVirt, document from Fedora project OR from oVirt?  The former document seems obsolete.  Both documents look similar.

B.R. SL

...

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From: rino villadalmine@gmail.com To: Stephen Liu satimis@yahoo.com; Fedora Cloud SIG cloud@lists.fedoraproject.org Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2012 12:39 PM Subject: Re: About installing oVirt

Ovirt will be supported on Fedora 18 but you can use an external repository.

On Sat, Sep 29, 2012 at 1:30 AM, Stephen Liu satimis@yahoo.com wrote:

Hi all,

...

I'm following; Build and Install Engine RPM http://wiki.ovirt.org/wiki/Build_%26_Install_RPM

to install oVirt on Fedora 17, 64bit.  However some packages are already obsolete, such as maven2

Then I found; Installing maven http://wiki.ovirt.org/wiki/Building_oVirt_engine

Both documents look similar.

But which subsequent steps shall I follow?

Is there a latest version of document on Fedora project for building oVirt?  Please advise.

TIA

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I know that some pages are obsoletes I did not use a copy paste page, i found a lot of error but works fine on bare metal, ovirt is not for replacement of VirtualBox, IT is for datacenter solutions !!!!

No.  I'm fully aware.

I just asked whether oVirt can run OS which runs on VM (guest) of VirtualBox?  To my understanding oVirt needs bare metal to run?

I recommend you virt-manager using kvm..

I have an old box running KVM with Debian 7, 32bit as host.  But there is only 4G RAM on that box.

I'm prepared building a new AMD 8 core box with 32G RAM.  I have already finalized the configuration with hardware selected.  I'll build this box when I have time.  Then I'll test oVirt on KVM there if it can run on guest of a virtualizer.

B.R. SL

Regards

On Sat, Sep 29, 2012 at 3:01 AM, Stephen Liu satimis@yahoo.com wrote:

...

...

You can get --> http://fedoraproject.org/get-prerelease

OK  Thanks That is pre-release version

...

More info --> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/oVirt

This is the document which I'm now following after discovering the document of Fedora project is obsolete.

...

http://wiki.ovirt.org/wiki/Documentation

->

http://wiki.ovirt.org/wiki/Build_%26_Install_RPM This document is obsolete.  Some packages already don't exist anymore.

...

http://blog.jebpages.com/archives/tag/ovirt/

I have been following this thread for several weeks but can't get the result as that displayed on the video

...

http://middleswarth.net/content/installing-ovirt-31-and-glusterfs-using-eith...

I'm NOT running NFS nor Posix here.  If oVirt needs bare metal to run I'll find a Hard drive installing NFS/Posix and testing it.  If oVirt works on Virtual Machine then I'll install NFS/Posix on VM of VirtualBox.  I have a PC running VirtualBox here, host Ubuntu 12.04 64bit

Thanks B.R. SL

...

Enjoy it :)

I installed ovirt in F17 using the las two wikis ...

On Sat, Sep 29, 2012 at 2:02 AM, Stephen Liu satimis@yahoo.com wrote:

Hi rino,

...

Thanks for your advice.

I'm running Fedora 17 64bit here.

Is Fedora 18 officially released? http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/18/Schedule

I'm most concerned which document shall I follow to install oVirt, document from Fedora project OR from oVirt?  The former document seems obsolete.  Both documents look similar.

B.R. SL

...

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From: rino villadalmine@gmail.com To: Stephen Liu satimis@yahoo.com; Fedora Cloud SIG cloud@lists.fedoraproject.org Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2012 12:39 PM Subject: Re: About installing oVirt

Ovirt will be supported on Fedora 18 but you can use an external repository.

On Sat, Sep 29, 2012 at 1:30 AM, Stephen Liu satimis@yahoo.com wrote:

Hi all,

...

I'm following; Build and Install Engine RPM http://wiki.ovirt.org/wiki/Build_%26_Install_RPM

to install oVirt on Fedora 17, 64bit.  However some packages are already obsolete, such as maven2

Then I found; Installing maven http://wiki.ovirt.org/wiki/Building_oVirt_engine

Both documents look similar.

But which subsequent steps shall I follow?

Is there a latest version of document on Fedora project for building oVirt?  Please advise.

TIA

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On 09/29/2012 05:20 AM, Stephen Liu wrote:

oVirt looks similar to OpenStack. I tried the later before. It is also quite complex to setup

Ya I setup both for my Aeolus demo at the OLF [1] and both were on par as far as the complexity of the configuration needed.

A cloud is a complicated service involving orchestrating quite a few components that may be complicated in their own right. Still think there is alot of up in the air regarding cloud computing! Got this impression from the conference as well, everyone seemed to have a different preferred IaaS implementation including the two mentioned and more

On Sat, Sep 29, 2012 at 3:30 AM, Stephen Liu <satimis@yahoo.com mailto:satimis@yahoo.com> wrote:

>I know that some pages are obsoletes I did not use a copy paste
page, i found a lot of error but works fine on
> bare metal, ovirt is not for replacement of VirtualBox, IT is
for datacenter solutions !!!!


No.  I'm fully aware.

I just asked whether oVirt can run OS which runs on VM (guest) of
VirtualBox?  To my understanding oVirt needs bare metal to run?

Just curious as to why we can't do this. Can't we leverage qemu if running in a vm? Will this be alleviated when kvm supports virt-in-virt?

-Mo

[1] http://mo.morsi.org/blog/node/372

On Wed, Oct 03, 2012 at 01:07:30AM +0200, Itamar Heim wrote:

...

...

oVirt looks similar to OpenStack. I tried the later before. It is also quite complex to setup

ovirt has full administration ui and should be more mature/robust on virt features.

They're really in a different space.

Use oVirt if you want a virtualized datacenter. Use OpenStack if you want a private cloud. Use virt-manager if you just want to manage a number of virtual machines on your desktop.

Hi:

http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/OpenStack

http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Getting_started_with_OpenStack_on_Fedora_17

What kind of service do you need to implement ? or just for testing??

Regards

On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 10:23 PM, Stephen Liu satimis@yahoo.com wrote:

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From: Matthew Miller mattdm@fedoraproject.org To: Fedora Cloud SIG cloud@lists.fedoraproject.org Sent: Wednesday, October 3, 2012 7:38 AM Subject: Re: About installing oVirt

On Wed, Oct 03, 2012 at 01:07:30AM +0200, Itamar Heim wrote:

...

...

...

oVirt looks similar to OpenStack. I tried the later before. It is also quite complex to setup

ovirt has full administration ui and should be more mature/robust on virt features.

They're really in a different space.

Use oVirt if you want a virtualized datacenter. Use OpenStack if you want

a

...

private cloud. Use virt-manager if you just want to manage a number of virtual machines on your desktop.

Thanks for your info.

I have been searching around on Internet the practical application of both oVirt and OpenStack without result. It seems to me that they are still remaining in testing stage.

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From: rino villadalmine@gmail.com To: Stephen Liu satimis@yahoo.com; Fedora Cloud SIG cloud@lists.fedoraproject.org Sent: Wednesday, October 3, 2012 9:55 AM Subject: Re: About installing oVirt

http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/OpenStack

http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Getting_started_with_OpenStack_on_Fedora_17

Thanks for your links.

What kind of service do you need to implement ? or just for testing??

I'm interested to find out their practical application with examples NOT theorectical

My target on "testing" is to understand their installation and configuration.  But finally I need to find out their practical application.

B.Regards SL

On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 10:23 PM, Stephen Liu satimis@yahoo.com wrote:

...

From: Matthew Miller mattdm@fedoraproject.org

...

To: Fedora Cloud SIG cloud@lists.fedoraproject.org Sent: Wednesday, October 3, 2012 7:38 AM

...

Subject: Re: About installing oVirt

...

On Wed, Oct 03, 2012 at 01:07:30AM +0200, Itamar Heim wrote:

...

...

...

oVirt looks similar to OpenStack.  I tried the later before.  It is also quite complex to setup

ovirt has full administration ui and should be more mature/robust on virt features.

They're really in a different space.

Use oVirt if you want a virtualized datacenter. Use OpenStack if you want a private cloud. Use virt-manager if you just want to manage a number of virtual machines on your desktop.

Thanks for your info.

I have been searching around on Internet the practical application of both oVirt and OpenStack without result.  It seems to me that they are still remaining in testing stage.

SL

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On 10/03/2012 04:09 AM, Stephen Liu wrote:

...

From: rino villadalmine@gmail.com To: Stephen Liu satimis@yahoo.com; Fedora Cloud SIG cloud@lists.fedoraproject.org Sent: Wednesday, October 3, 2012 9:55 AM Subject: Re: About installing oVirt

http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/OpenStack

http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Getting_started_with_OpenStack_on_Fedora_17

Thanks for your links.

...

What kind of service do you need to implement ? or just for testing??

I'm interested to find out their practical application with examples NOT theorectical

I'm not sure what do you mean by that statement - ovirt is the upstream project of red hat enterprise virtualization manager. maybe these docs will give you a better picture of ovirt: https://access.redhat.com/knowledge/docs/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Virtualization/

My target on "testing" is to understand their installation and configuration. But finally I need to find out their practical application.

B.Regards SL

...

On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 10:23 PM, Stephen Liu satimis@yahoo.com wrote:

...

From: Matthew Miller mattdm@fedoraproject.org

...

To: Fedora Cloud SIG cloud@lists.fedoraproject.org Sent: Wednesday, October 3, 2012 7:38 AM

...

Subject: Re: About installing oVirt

...

On Wed, Oct 03, 2012 at 01:07:30AM +0200, Itamar Heim wrote:

...

...

> oVirt looks similar to OpenStack. I tried the later before. It is > also quite complex to setup

ovirt has full administration ui and should be more mature/robust on virt features.

They're really in a different space.

Use oVirt if you want a virtualized datacenter. Use OpenStack if you want a private cloud. Use virt-manager if you just want to manage a number of virtual machines on your desktop.

Thanks for your info.

I have been searching around on Internet the practical application of both oVirt and OpenStack without result. It seems to me that they are still remaining in testing stage.

SL

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