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community participation in FCOS quality processes
by Kamil Paral 28 Aug '20

28 Aug '20

Hello folks, wanted to thank you all for supporting the FCOS Test Day which turned out to be a very successful event! As we looked back, we thought there might be room for more community participation in FCOS QA. On those lines, we were wondering if there are good ways for other Fedora teams and for the community in large to get a good picture of how quality validation and decisions are done for the FCOS stable stream, and how people who are interested can participate in this process. In particular, I tried to find some documentation on: * The pool of bugs which are currently reported against the testing and next stream * The subset of aforementioned bugs which were decided to be "blockers" and must be fixed before the stream can be promoted to stable * Where this blocker decision-making takes place and how people can get involved * What are the procedures and rules for this blocker decision-making process Unfortunately, I was not able to find any. I might be looking at a wrong location. Can you please point me to the correct place, if such documentation exists? Since FCOS might soon be an official Fedora edition, it would be great to have insight into the FCOS community release process. But this is far from just a QA team thing. This process transparency is important for recruiting new passionate community members who can help you run and improve things. Another use case might be a party affected by a bug who might feel motivated to visit such a blocker discussion and argue their case about why they think such a bug should not hit the stable stream. We can put together all the relevant documents in one place that is accessible to the public so that the community is aware of important decisions made during the release process and feel included. I imagine that there could be a "Participate!" section in the FCOS docs page [1] which would point people to areas where they can help FCOS, and one of those areas could be quality control. What do you think? As an example, the current quality validation workflow in Fedora includes a regular "blocker review" meeting in a dedicated IRC channel, where bugs proposed as "blockers" get discussed [2][3]. Anyone can propose a bug as a blocker and we regularly receive bug nominations from the community. The blocker review meeting is open to anybody and we try to base our votes on "release criteria" [4] after assessing that particular case and its circumstances. Release criteria help us bring a bit more consistency into this blocker decision-making and it saves us some time from looking up historical evidence ("how did we vote last time on a similar bug?"). All currently proposed and accepted blockers are visible from our custom page [5]. This whole process is a collaborative effort between Release Engineering, Quality Assurance, Development, and Project Management. Please note that while I'm describing our current process as an example, I'm not implying you need to do it in the same way. I'm just showing how we do it in general. Also, our documentation is quite complex and lengthy, but essentially it can be just a couple of paragraphs with links, to steer people into the right direction. Looking forward to hearing your thoughts. Thanks! Kamil Fedora QA [1] https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fedora-coreos/ [2] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_blocker_bug_process [3] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Blocker_Bug_FAQ [4] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Release_Criteria [5] https://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/milestone/33/beta/buglist

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Fedora CoreOS Meeting Minutes 2020-08-26
by Clement Verna 26 Aug '20

26 Aug '20

Minutes: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2020-08-26/fedora_coreos… Minutes (text): https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2020-08-26/fedora_coreos… Log: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2020-08-26/fedora_coreos… ======================================== #fedora-meeting-1: fedora_coreos_meeting ======================================== Meeting started by cverna at 16:30:21 UTC. The full logs are available athttps://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2020-08-26/fedora_core… . Meeting summary --------------- * roll call (cverna, 16:30:38) * Looking at what's next for FCOS (cverna, 16:34:33) * We have determined that F.K.R.P are the items with the most interest in completing first (dustymabe, 17:17:58) * - F. Add coherent support for modifying kernel arguments, and provide fcct sugar (dustymabe, 17:18:10) * - K. Updates in offline/disconnected environment (dustymabe, 17:18:18) * - R. [Stable root image size](https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-tracker/issues/586) (dustymabe, 17:18:28) * - P. [Adding OpenStack to our CI](https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-tracker/issues/612) (dustymabe, 17:18:39) * (after the items already in progress) (bgilbert, 17:19:03) * Open Floor (cverna, 17:22:27) * PXE boot on the `next` stream (as of 32.20200824.1.0) now requires the separate rootfs image (dustymabe, 17:25:58) Meeting ended at 17:31:01 UTC. Action Items ------------ Action Items, by person ----------------------- * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * dustymabe (66) * cverna (55) * aoei (35) * jlebon (27) * zodbot (26) * bgilbert (18) * lorbus (16) * lucab (15) * cyberpear (14) * jdoss (5) * miabbott (5) * darkmuggle (3) * skunkerk (2) * imcleod (1) * misc (1) * davdunc (1) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot

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[Fedocal] Reminder meeting : Fedora CoreOS Group Weekly Meeting
by dusty＠dustymabe.com 25 Aug '20

25 Aug '20

Dear all, You are kindly invited to the meeting: Fedora CoreOS Group Weekly Meeting on 2020-08-26 from 16:30:00 to 17:30:00 UTC At fedora-meeting-1(a)irc.freenode.net The meeting will be about: This is the meeting for the Fedora CoreOS Working Group. We typically go over previous meeting action items and then cover all tickets with the meeting keyword: https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-tracker/labels/meeting. For how to run the meeting, see https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-tracker#steps-to-run-the-meeting Source: https://apps.fedoraproject.org/calendar/meeting/9437/

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Fedora CoreOS planning session
by Clement Verna 21 Aug '20

21 Aug '20

Dear all, We would like to try to use next week's IRC meeting (wednesday 08/26 16:30 UTC #fedora-meeting-1) to experiment with a planning session. The goal being to identify which issues or features are most important to the community at this time. This should help to highlight what is important for the community to tackle together in the future and is also a good place to have a discussion about priorities of the different issues. If you would like to add an issue to the meeting agenda please use the following hackmd document https://hackmd.io/aVJiL9DUQpCDSafSBcs6ZQ Hope to see you all during next week's meeting :-)

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Fedora CoreOS Meeting Minutes 2020-08-19
by Dusty Mabe 19 Aug '20

19 Aug '20

Minutes: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2020-08-19/fedora_coreos… Minutes (text): https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2020-08-19/fedora_coreos… Log: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2020-08-19/fedora_coreos… ======================================== #fedora-meeting-1: fedora_coreos_meeting ======================================== Meeting started by dustymabe at 16:29:01 UTC. The full logs are available at https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2020-08-19/fedora_coreos… . Meeting summary --------------- * roll call (dustymabe, 16:29:05) * Action items from last meeting (dustymabe, 16:33:21) * nasirhm opened PR for adding nvme-cli and it merged https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-config/pull/564 (dustymabe, 16:34:02) * ACTION: bgilbert to summarize discussion in #586 (bgilbert, 16:34:13) * high level issues for Fedora CoreOS (dustymabe, 16:35:06) * in next week's meeting we'll talk about high level issues we should try to tackle soon in FCOS, more details coming in an email to coreos(a)lists.fedoraproject.org (dustymabe, 16:37:56) * 2020-08-19: gather status update for Fedora Council (dustymabe, 16:38:54) * better Vultr and OpenStack support coming with Afterburn 4.5.0 - https://github.com/coreos/afterburn/releases/tag/v4.5.0 (lucab, 16:44:59) * a framework for docs for our upstream projects, starting from Zincati - https://coreos.github.io/zincati/ (lucab, 16:46:58) * open floor (dustymabe, 16:51:56) * LINK: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/coreos-status@lists.fedorapro… (dustymabe, 16:57:38) * LINK: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/coreos-status@lists.fedorapro… (dustymabe, 16:58:00) * dusty and neal did a presentation on Monday about running OKD on FCOS on DigitalOcean: https://youtu.be/eCm5cNWDMsY?t=7797 (dustymabe, 16:58:48) Meeting ended at 17:00:55 UTC. Action Items ------------ * bgilbert to summarize discussion in #586 Action Items, by person ----------------------- * bgilbert * bgilbert to summarize discussion in #586 * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * dustymabe (53) * zodbot (26) * jdoss (19) * nasirhm (17) * jlebon (11) * bgilbert (11) * aoei (9) * cyberpear (6) * lucab (5) * cverna (4) * darkmuggle (1) * abai (1) * skunkerk- (1) * lorbus (1) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot

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[Fedocal] Reminder meeting : Fedora CoreOS Group Weekly Meeting
by dusty＠dustymabe.com 18 Aug '20

18 Aug '20

Dear all, You are kindly invited to the meeting: Fedora CoreOS Group Weekly Meeting on 2020-08-19 from 16:30:00 to 17:30:00 UTC At fedora-meeting-1(a)irc.freenode.net The meeting will be about: This is the meeting for the Fedora CoreOS Working Group. We typically go over previous meeting action items and then cover all tickets with the meeting keyword: https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-tracker/labels/meeting. For how to run the meeting, see https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-tracker#steps-to-run-the-meeting Source: https://apps.fedoraproject.org/calendar/meeting/9437/

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Fedora CoreOS Meeting Minutes 2020-08-12
by Nasir Hussain 12 Aug '20

12 Aug '20

Minutes: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2020-08-12/fedora_coreos… Minutes (text): https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2020-08-12/fedora_coreos… Log: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2020-08-12/fedora_coreos… ======================================== #fedora-meeting-1: fedora_coreos_meeting ======================================== Meeting started by nasirhm at 16:30:04 UTC. The full logs are available at https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2020-08-12/fedora_coreos… . Meeting summary --------------- * roll call (nasirhm, 16:30:16) * Action items from last meeting (nasirhm, 16:32:40) * bgilbert to summarize discussion from last week's meeting in ticket (nasirhm, 16:33:06) * LINK: https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-tracker/issues/586 (nasirhm, 16:33:19) * ACTION: bgilbert to summarize discussion in #586 (bgilbert, 16:33:21) * dustymabe to send an email to coreos@ about the coreos/enhancements repo (nasirhm, 16:34:07) * dusty sent email to coreos@ list about coreos enhancements repo (dustymabe, 16:35:10) * LINK: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/coreos@lists.fedoraproject.or… (dustymabe, 16:35:13) * New Ignition provider for OpenNebula (nasirhm, 16:37:29) * LINK: https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-tracker/issues/166 (nasirhm, 16:37:50) * LINK: https://github.com/coreos/afterburn/pull/478 (lucab, 16:39:25) * AGREED: proceed with reserving a platform ID for OpenNebula, without committing to full support nor producing images at this time (lucab, 16:51:46) * AGREED: propose `opennebula` as the actual platform ID for OpenNebula (lucab, 16:58:48) * Publish the initrd and rootfs images separately for PXE booting (nasirhm, 17:00:34) * LINK: https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-tracker/issues/390 (nasirhm, 17:00:41) * LINK: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fedora-coreos/bare-metal/#_pxe_rootfs_… (bgilbert, 17:04:05) * Open Floor (nasirhm, 17:08:58) * AWS Fedora CoreOS missing /dev/xvd* symlinks (nasirhm, 17:09:57) * LINK: https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-tracker/issues/601#issuecomment-672… (nasirhm, 17:10:12) * LINK: https://github.com/davdunc/ec2-utils (davdunc, 17:10:40) * ACTION: nasirhm to add nvme-cli for udev rules. (nasirhm, 17:27:30) Meeting ended at 17:29:56 UTC. Action Items ------------ * bgilbert to summarize discussion in #586 * nasirhm to add nvme-cli for udev rules. Action Items, by person ----------------------- * bgilbert * bgilbert to summarize discussion in #586 * nasirhm * nasirhm to add nvme-cli for udev rules. * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * nasirhm (44) * dustymabe (43) * lucab (38) * bgilbert (33) * jlebon (20) * zodbot (18) * davdunc (14) * darkmuggle (10) * miabbott (2) * slowrie (2) * cyberpear (1) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot

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[Fedocal] Reminder meeting : Fedora CoreOS Group Weekly Meeting
by dusty＠dustymabe.com 11 Aug '20

11 Aug '20

Dear all, You are kindly invited to the meeting: Fedora CoreOS Group Weekly Meeting on 2020-08-12 from 16:30:00 to 17:30:00 UTC At fedora-meeting-1(a)irc.freenode.net The meeting will be about: This is the meeting for the Fedora CoreOS Working Group. We typically go over previous meeting action items and then cover all tickets with the meeting keyword: https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-tracker/labels/meeting. For how to run the meeting, see https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-tracker#steps-to-run-the-meeting Source: https://apps.fedoraproject.org/calendar/meeting/9437/

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GPU / CUDA support on FCOS / OKD 4
by Josef Meier 06 Aug '20

06 Aug '20

Hi, I'm very interested to get GPU support enabled on FCOS. After searching and asking around I found this projects, that seem to be a good starting point for that: * https://github.com/NVIDIA/gpu-operator (RHCOS is mentioned as a supported platform) * https://docs.nvidia.com/datacenter/kubernetes/openshift-on-gpu-install-guid… * https://nvidia.github.io/gpu-operator A different approach to build and install kernel modules: * https://github.com/kmods-via-containers Has anybody already tried to get GPU support running on FCOS and on OKD 4 ? What problems would you expect to occur on FCOS or OKD 4 ? Do you know if the gpu-operator can also be deployed on OKD 4? Thanks a lot and greetings, Josef

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CoreOS Enhancements Repo
by Dusty Mabe 05 Aug '20

05 Aug '20

Hello Everyone, The team has created a new git repository for us all to use as a place to have high level and well summarized design discussions for large changes to Fedora CoreOS (and RHEL CoreOS by association). https://github.com/coreos/enhancements The goal of this repo is to be lower volume and also be a place for us to propose concrete changes with well defined problem statements. Usually each proposal will be the result of some team members getting together to brainstorm options to consider and perform brief investigations of possible solutions beforehand so that each option can be weighed with sufficient information. This should help us keep track of large changes. The coreos/fedora-coreos-tracker repo is still the right place to report issues and make requests for features, but if the fix or feature requires a significant change we may break out the design into a coreos/enhancements PR for further discussion of the concrete proposed solution(s). Dusty

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