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Critique for Ticket #159: Freemedia Mailer Design
by twohot 21 Jan '11

21 Jan '11

Hello(s):) In October 08, 2010, I submitted a design for ticket #159. Back then, I wanted the team to critique the work. (See follow-up comment #5 at https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/159). The team was focusing on the wallpaper design for F14 at that time and so, nothing much was said about my solution. I'd like to present it again. I have included the initial mail below as it contains my thoughts on the work at that time. I look forward to your comments. INITIAL MAIL FOLLOWS:------------------------------------------------- Hello People, I have uploaded a skirmish design for ticket #159. Here: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/File:Freemedia-mailer-A4-type-A.svgz#file https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/File:Freemedia-mailer-A4-type-B.svgz#file After much research on mailer regulations, I settled for a 5.25"x5.25" size mailer jacket. It might be worth it to pursue a design for a 6"x7.25" generic envelop for overprotective people ... like me (I like to add extra padding/polystyrene to project the media). I couldn't find much for European mailer regulations so I hope this is universal enough. I used Bitstream Vera Sans for Addresses taking cognizance of accepted mailer typeface (USPS). I believe the font is free from license issues. Correct me if I'm wrong. The 'Air Mail' label employs yet another open font - IM Fell Double Pica. I have two proposals, A & B. The variation lies with the Logos on the Front Side. I am not sure an "Air Mail" label placed on the right is acceptable by law -- well, my predecessor had his like that so, ... I made a version like that too. It seems better that way. However, all other reference materials I found, had it on the left which would put our lovely fedora logo out of place ... In type-B, The only place the fedora logo can fit in is between the Return Address and the Recipient's Address (Turn on 'restrictions' layer for further guidance'). Well, the front is encumbered by restrictions so I couldn't do much there. The rear allowed for some innovation but I kept it minimal as requested. Feel free to check out those designs and critique as necessary. You might want to view some of my reference materials ... I hope I was well guided: http://ribbs.usps.gov/onecodesolution/SPUSPS-B-3200E001.pdf http://ankursinha.fedorapeople.org/mailer/ http://www.baystateenvelope.com/pdfs/Postal%20Guidelines%20Primer.pdf http://www.siemons.com/forms/pdf/designing_letter_reply_mail.pdf http://xml.coverpages.org/USPS-PostalAddressingPub28.pdf http://pe.usps.com/mpdesign/pdf/PBRMCrd/ -->various cards with address layout by USPS http://ascenseur.fedorapeople.org/fedora_mailer_new.otg MORE IDEAS: As I was working on this, I got this crazy idea. I may be asking for much, but what if the Addressing was automated ... just like the Fedora Ambassadors business Cards? What if we could type a bash command and get the code to read the Freemedia Contributor's Details, fill that in, fill-in the supplied recipient from the Freemedia form dB ...and the result is the approved design bearing all that is necessary. Just print, fold, glue, stamp, and mail. How about that? The code could even do the Intelligent bar coding (that thing adds another attraction to the entire design ...you know). All details for that are contained in one of the reference materials above -- they even added the source code (at least it looked like it). Oops ... enough rambling. I hope I've not been too naive regards -- Oku Onyeibo http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/user:twohot

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Fedora 15 feature : Fedora Design Suite group
by Ankur Sinha 19 Jan '11

19 Jan '11

Hello, I've proposed a Design Suite Group as a feature for F15. The page is here[1]. Folks are more than welcome to join in :) Thanks, regards, Ankur [1]https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/Design_Suite_Group

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Fudcon Tempe Shirt
by Emily Dirsh 17 Jan '11

17 Jan '11

Hi all, I hope everyone had a wonderful midwinter celebration of choice. As promised (a while ago, I know, but better late than never) here's the -hopefully- penultimate Fudcon Tempe t-shirt design [1] (source - [2]). I changed it somewhat based on the feedback I got for the original design. The logo is larger, and has a bit more space around it. That means the surrounding design is necessarily smaller. blah blah blah. Give me your feedback, people! Happy New Year! Emily [1] - http://emichan.fedorapeople.org/FudconTempe/hohokam_tshirt.png [2] - http://emichan.fedorapeople.org/FudconTempe/hohokam_lg_logo.svg

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cross community influences without losing a brand?
by Jakub Steiner 05 Jan '11

05 Jan '11

Hi folks! When people are done discussing existence threats and all that (kidding, kidding ;), here's a few assets that might be a good starting point to play around the idea of Lovelock Ocean Pipes[1] while getting some influence from the upstream GNOME stripes. I don't think it works all too well for the wallpaper itself as it's way too busy, but I like the texture for all the rest -- Plymouth backdrop, gdm background, posters, DVD inlays etc. This isn't another external push to a specific direction. It's not to direct anyone anywhere. It's to inspire you guys to experiment. I'm pretty sure there's more to mine out of Lovelock. I can't identify with dismissal without actually trying it. In my view a boundary in which a designer has to be creative in is more empowering than given complete freedom. I can totally see these upstream influences incorporated into a distro with a completely different palette, like openSUSE. But that probably wouldn't be appropriate at all for me to try :) Ingredients -- http://gitorious.org/gnome-design/gnome-design/trees/master/wallpaper/seapi… Serving suggestions -- http://www.dropbox.com/gallery/24178/1/f15-seapipes?h=b9e52e The main project file requires Blender 2.5, but there's also individual bits rendered in the XCF if you only want to experiment there. [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Lovelock -- Jakub Steiner http://jimmac.musichall.cz

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GNOME background in Fedora 15
by Owen Taylor 03 Jan '11

03 Jan '11

Hi design team - So, obviously there has been a lot of discussion over the last few days about the desktop background in Fedora 15 and GNOME 3 but since there seems to be still a bit of confusion about it, I wanted to step back and try to write things down a little more formally and hopefully explain better why we'd like to do something a little different for GNOME in Fedora 15. ("We" here is basically the set of people who work to package up GNOME for Fedora - almost all of us combine upstream maintainership of modules within GNOME with work on making the Fedora desktop. For example, I'm the lead maintainer of GNOME Shell and the Mutter compositor upstream, and also handle gnome-shell, mutter, metacity, and several other packages within Fedora.) GNOME 3 in Fedora 15 is a big deal. For perspective, GNOME 2.0 was released in June of 2002, and it was first shipped in Red Hat Linux 8. We started specific work on the GNOME 3 release in October of 2008, over 2 years ago. So, as you can imagine, there's a lot of effort being put in on the GNOME side to make a big splash about the GNOME 3 release and really do a good job about getting information out to people about what's new and exciting in GNOME 3. Part of publicity about GNOME 3 is establishing an image in people's minds about what GNOME looks like. The GNOME 3 look has many elements ... the widget theme, the black top panel and status icon drop downs, the fonts we use, and so forth. One prominent part of the appearance is the background. (The background has a new functional role in GNOME 3. As well as being behind all the users windows, it also provides the background to the GNOME "Activities Overview". You can see how this works, for example, in the screenshot in http://blogs.gnome.org/fmuellner/2010/11/16/moving-forward/) If someone reads about GNOME 3 and gets excited about it and wants to try it out, then they'll need to try it out within a Linux distribution There's no way to install and try out "GNOME" by itself. Quite a few different distributions will be shipping GNOME 3 this spring, but we expect Fedora to be one of the most popular, if not the most popular of those distributions. (Ubuntu is going their own way with Unity and will not be featuring GNOME 3.) After going and getting GNOME on some distribution, the user blogs about their experiences or writes an article, we'd really like it if the focus was on what's new in GNOME 3 not how it was integrated and modified for one distribution or another distribution. Changing the background seems like a pretty minor modification, and functionally it is a pretty minor modification, but it is also a major visual modification. Suddenly a screenshot is no longer a screenshot of GNOME 3, it's a screenshot of GNOME 3 as modified for a particular distribution. We want Fedora to be the showcase for GNOME 3 and to be a good example to other distributions about how to package GNOME 3. So, to go along with the release splash for Fedora 15, we'd like to make special request that for this release we use the GNOME background in the Fedora GNOME packages and hence in the default Fedora desktop. I want to be clear that this is not in any way saying that we don't like the Fedora backgrounds ... the recent Fedora backgrounds are great, and keep on getting cleaner and more professional looking every release. The issue is rather a question of trying to provide a single look for the GNOME 3 release rather than a series of looks, one per distribution. To try and provide a few answers to questions that already have come up: * Is this really just for Fedora 15? Yes. The request is specifically to ship the GNOME background as the default for Fedora 15. * Would the Fedora background be available for GNOME users? Yes. The desktop background is a place for users to customize their desktop and express their personality ... there is no idea that we'd restrict that customization. GNOME will ship a varied collection of different backgrounds. Providing the Fedora design team's background as another option makes a ton of sense to me. * Is the GNOME background really that distinctive? A background that looked like nothing anybody had ever seen before would likely be a pretty strange background. So, yes, it's possible to find previously released backgrounds that are very similar. But that doesn't mean that the overall combination of visual features involved in GNOME 3 isn't distinctive and memorable. * What about the rest of the artwork? I think trying to adapt the entire set of artwork in Fedora to have different looks for different spins is probably more confusing then anything else. The GNOME default background matches pretty well with the Fedora look, so it's not going to be jarring to switch to it after seeing the standard Fedora artwork for boot. * What about other desktops in Fedora? We're not trying to say that there is anything fundamentally different about the GNOME desktop in Fedora than any other desktop; While we do think GNOME 3 is a special occasion for GNOME, every desktop should be able to work with the Fedora design team to figure out what makes the most sense for a release. And while I think it would be a bit strange and confusing for other desktops to use a GNOME background as their default, there's no barrier for other spins to include the gnome-themes-standard package and depend on the /usr/share/themes/Adwaita/backgrounds/stripes.jpg if they want. I know the desktop is a big part of the expression of Fedora's design personality and its a lot to ask of the design team to have something else as the default background for the default desktop for this release, but I think it is a distinct positive for the release of GNOME 3. And working together with upstream well is something that's fundamental to Fedora. So hopefully a lot to ask is not too much to ask :-) Please let me know what additional questions and concerns you have and if we can move forward on this. Thanks! - Owen

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My introduction to design-team
by imdad areeph 31 Dec '10

31 Dec '10

I am willing to join the Fedora Artwork Project desperately. I want to contribute my work for the group. i make fantasy Artworks, abstract wallpapers,system icons,logo designing.In the beginning it was simply an interest, but now it is my passion. a simple wallpaper created by me. http://i46.tinypic.com/23m7i45.jpg I am also interested in HTML/CSS I make small interresting games in C++/java But mostly, i like editing pictures and designing logos. -- ------------------------------------------------------------ Imdad Areeph Jayanagar,Bangalore. ph :+919886250912 Designation : Comp. Sc Engg. imdadareeph(a)gmail.com ------------------------------------------------------------

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request for task
by Manav Garg 30 Dec '10

30 Dec '10

hello fedora design team, im a new member of this society though i have been using fedora(linux) for a long time now. so i would like to contribute to the society. i have knowledge of photoshop and gimp and fairly good at designing. So please asign me a task so that i can start contributing. hoping to hear from you as soon as possible Manav garg

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Fedora 15 GNOME Default Wallpaper
by emeka＠bensoftent.com 23 Dec '10

23 Dec '10

I think this is pretty easy, If GNOME 3.0 wallpaper must be there by default, we could add in a new feature during bootup or just before a users first login asking the user to choose between Fedora's Default Wallpaper & GNOME 3.0 Default wallpaper. Here the user is King. Lets not forget that GNOME's come a long way & we have some of our very own working with them. Fedora has always been a platform for true open source applications. Lets carry GNOME 3.0 along even though we could make provisions for UNITY or even google chrome much later. Send design-team mailing list submissions to > design-team(a)lists.fedoraproject.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/design-team > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > design-team-request(a)lists.fedoraproject.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > design-team-owner(a)lists.fedoraproject.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of design-team digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: GNOME background in Fedora 15 (Onyeibo Oku) > 2. Re: GNOME background in Fedora 15 (Martin Sourada) > 3. Call For Papers - 2011 World Congress on Mathematics and > Statistics (WCMS 2011) > 4. Re: GNOME background in Fedora 15 (Nicu Buculei) > 5. Re: GNOME background in Fedora 15 (Jaroslav Reznik) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2010 03:09:14 +0100 > From: Onyeibo Oku <twohotis(a)gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [Design-team] GNOME background in Fedora 15 > To: Fedora Design Team <design-team(a)lists.fedoraproject.org> > Message-ID: <4D0D694A.7020109(a)gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed > > On 12/19/2010 03:02 AM, Jim Campbell wrote: >> Hi All, >> >> 2010/12/18 M?ir?n Duffy <duffy(a)fedoraproject.org >> <mailto:duffy@fedoraproject.org>> >> >> On Sun, 2010-12-19 at 02:16 +0100, Martin Sourada wrote: >> > No, no, you misunderstood. I don't imply we should ship to gnome >> spins. >> > We should either ship in F15 gnome as pristine as possible or >> just do it >> > they way we do it usually. Neither of these should of course >> affect >> > other spins and IMHO also not DVD install. >> >> Why? Again, you are proposing this all or nothing thinking and I >> completely do not understand it. Can you please explain? >> >> > PS: I think we should slowly kill this thread, I'm running "out >> of >> > ammo", your arguments also haven't been strong enough to make me >> change >> > my mind and I wouldn't want to make this into a flame... >> >> We have to make a decision. >> >> ~m >> >> >> >> I think that the Fedora Project is in a good spot here in that the >> default Gnome3 wallpaper is a shade of blue that coincides nicely with >> the colors that Fedora uses anyway. >> >> The same cannot be said of OpenSUSE, though. >> >> Given the hubbub that is in Fedora where there isn't really a conflict >> of colors, but other distros would likely have a conflict with the >> colors, would upstream Gnome be willing to compromise on this? Would >> upstream be willing to allow distros to create stripe-based wallpapers >> that include the same design pattern, same degree of saturation, same >> texture, etc., but use different distro-specific colors? After all, >> could we really expect OpenSUSE to ship a blue theme? So much of their >> artwork (website, icon set, metacity theme, etc.) is green. And I have >> never seen a blue gecko. : ( >> >> If we were able get a compromise like this, I think that there would be >> greater likelihood of buy-in from the various the distros. They would be >> representing and celebrating Gnome, but would retain key portions of >> their own distro "self." Perhaps even Ubuntu would be willing to ship an >> aubergine stripe-based theme as part of their wallpaper set (though, of >> course, not as their default, as they are using Unity). >> >> This could also potentially benefit Gnome, as they could do something >> like, "Different Colors, One Gnome," or something like that. The Gnome >> brand identity could be visible in the stripes, while the distros get >> their identity in the colors. >> >> Jim >> > > That's what I thought too > -- > Oku Onyeibo > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/user:twohot > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2010 10:40:15 +0100 > From: Martin Sourada <martin.sourada(a)gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [Design-team] GNOME background in Fedora 15 > To: Fedora Design Team <design-team(a)lists.fedoraproject.org> > Message-ID: <1292751616.2356.178.camel(a)localhost.localdomain> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > On Sat, 2010-12-18 at 20:34 -0500, M?ir?n Duffy wrote: >> On Sun, 2010-12-19 at 02:16 +0100, Martin Sourada wrote: >> > No, no, you misunderstood. I don't imply we should ship to gnome >> spins. >> > We should either ship in F15 gnome as pristine as possible or just do >> it >> > they way we do it usually. Neither of these should of course affect >> > other spins and IMHO also not DVD install. >> >> Why? Again, you are proposing this all or nothing thinking and I >> completely do not understand it. Can you please explain? >> > Because I don't understand at all why change only the wallpaper. How > does that help anyone. It's like doing something half-heartedly to me. > >> > PS: I think we should slowly kill this thread, I'm running "out of >> > ammo", your arguments also haven't been strong enough to make me >> change >> > my mind and I wouldn't want to make this into a flame... >> >> We have to make a decision. > Agreed. Seems to me like vote is the best option (probably FAS based as > not everyone has time to attend an IRC meeting). As I already said, > while I'm personally against granting this request, I wouldn't mind > granting it if majority of our team is for it. >

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[Anaconda] Redesign language-keyboard layout selection
by Luya Tshimbalanga 20 Dec '10

20 Dec '10

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Based on Mo's template, I made a mockup for the new language and keyboard layout. Both are merged and each variant are grouped from their respective list. Keyboard input field has been added for testing. Any comments? Ref: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Anaconda/UX_Redesign/Anaconda_Language-Keybo… - -- Luya Tshimbalanga Graphic & Web Designer E: luya(a)fedoraproject.org W: http://www.thefinalzone.net -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJND6rVAAoJEGZ+gIukWeEePeEH/idcYO1GA+jDMwVYD3R2yUD0 6Lndp5dG6ZtC86EnLaTS4obNNybzTanTnCBVGrzWJ3Lx++/LxGQfkG8XN+3kwd21 LvmNNBXnogeZXB0uvMp1U8zmRZc8nHzUghf8/eLV4jryiWZ0l27ZIPPjcDnioOPt fcSAMrxH6uVYRny5ynWURpAD5I/HbeRlnKzTUjLfN+M1M+36x3mZMl+D2sWwi4J9 V8r1becSRbv3xmQo+GF2ZIufT1x6XqBPI2Fms4OpyFRgrHm3zGpe1WguB7xaXpE/ 4icFo7cBhVnSXAjZS3BkJUIZ5dNDssPU2lvxiKXD8p4/NIdGaAJRoAsCKxNLINU= =Lz0m -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Call For Papers - 2011 World Congress on Mathematics and Statistics
by WCMS 2011 19 Dec '10

19 Dec '10

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