design-team December 2018

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[Fedocal] Reminder meeting : Design Team Meeting
by duffy＠redhat.com 31 Dec '18

31 Dec '18

Dear all, You are kindly invited to the meeting: Design Team Meeting on 2019-01-01 from 13:00:00 to 14:00:00 US/Eastern At fedora-design(a)chat.freenode.net The meeting will be about: This weekly design team meeting will happen in #fedora-design on irc.freenode.net. If you do not have an IRC client, please join us via http://riot.im. More information available at: [http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Design](http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Design) Source: https://apps.fedoraproject.org/calendar/meeting/3152/

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SVG Artwork Repository and Backlinks
by Anatoli Babenia 27 Dec '18

27 Dec '18

Hello. Is there a reference repository with SVGs used by Fedora project? There are certain optimizations that could be applied to logos, such as https://github.com/fedora-infra/fedora-packages/pull/407 Hunting these logos across known projects does not leave one with a sense of accomplishment, because one doesn't know how many unknown projects with logos are still there. I would expect projects to copy SVG logos to their own repositories, and the logos themselves carry source-url field in metadata pointing to reference repository along with license etc. The reference repository, structured in any way, but with a /logos/ dir inside could also have a README.md referencing all projects where logos are copied. Is there something like this?

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Outdated ArtWork/Communicate Info
by Anatoli Babenia 27 Dec '18

27 Dec '18

Hello, I want to raise the issue with links on this page: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/Communicate#Community_Hangout_Sites http://www.flickr.com/groups/fedora-art/ is 12 years old and for some reason photos page is empty. http://fedora-art.deviantart.com/ contains some nice favourites. I would use Grafitti login theme right away if I could find an easy way how to customize login screen. Anyway it doesn't look like there is much activity on Deviant either. http://www.mugshot.org/group?who=DrZ42qVjmPWmnh website is not found. Should these links be killed or there is something popular to replace them?

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Re: [badges] Ideas from the past
by Justin W. Flory 23 Dec '18

23 Dec '18

On 11/6/18 12:21 PM, Tom Callaway wrote: > A hundred million years ago, when dinosaurs roamed Fedoraland, we > created Badges (then we were all promptly eaten by raptors). > > There were, however, a few ambitious badge ideas that never happened. I > present them for wider consideration, especially in the context of the > proposed FAD. > Hi Tom, thanks for sharing this feedback on the list. This feedback was directly used when planning the upcoming Badges FAD. > 1) User badges > Goal: Provide an opportunity for a deeper community engagement for > Fedora users, and a gentle on-ramp to moving from user to contributor. > > Prompt users to opt-in to local badges during initial setup (if they do, > have them attach a FAS account or create one). > > Run a local fedmsg daemon which sends notifications of local badges over > to Fedora Badges. > > Examples "Installed Fedora 29!", "KDE User", "Updater Level 1" > Some of these are likely very far away even now, but I read one way to accomplish this goal is to integrate Badges into more of the fast-moving, exciting places where Fedora is innovating. This idea is related to this goal we identified for the FAD: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD_Badges_2019#Determining_badge_policy_for… > 2) Badge sets > Goal: Encourage deeper levels of Fedora engagement > > Have a set with five badges, when all badges are earned, you unlock a > set badge. This can encourage people to do specific behaviors that we > want them to do (or need more help doing). > This functionality has existed for some years already in Badges, but there is no documentation to explain how it works or how to set up new badges (even for admins). It would be nice to finally get documentation around this written. It could fit into this goal we identified for our FAD: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD_Badges_2019#New_documentation_for_on-boa… > 2A) Swag rewards for badge sets > > Complete this badge set, get a Fedora Badger shirt. Or whatever. > Admittedly, this did not make it into the FAD proposal. But if we manage to get someone like Matthew or Brian in the room, this would be a great side conversation to have too. -- Cheers, Justin W. Flory jflory7(a)gmail.com

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[Fedocal] Reminder meeting : Design Team Meeting
by duffy＠redhat.com 17 Dec '18

17 Dec '18

Dear all, You are kindly invited to the meeting: Design Team Meeting on 2018-12-18 from 13:00:00 to 14:00:00 US/Eastern At fedora-design(a)chat.freenode.net The meeting will be about: This weekly design team meeting will happen in #fedora-design on irc.freenode.net. If you do not have an IRC client, please join us via http://riot.im. More information available at: [http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Design](http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Design) Source: https://apps.fedoraproject.org/calendar/meeting/3152/

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Re: users design-team and more
by Máirín Duffy 13 Dec '18

13 Dec '18

Hi, 1. The individuals added to the design pagure pre-date pagures ability to add FAS groups. Everyone who has membership in the "design-team" FAS group has the correct privs for the design team pagure. It is a duplicate effort to manage user perms in multiple systems, since pagure got this feature we manage perms for pagure in FAS only and do not manage perms on an individual level unless absolutely necessary anymore. If anyone on the team doesn't have permissions they need and are blocked in any system please let me know, I am happy to help. I haven't seen any complaints to this effect. 2. I don't think creating a separate icon theme is a good use of our limited time. Several of us have Xaviju's Inkscape symbol libraries set up on our inkscapw installs, which includes the gnome symbolic icons that are default in Fedora. I think it's better to just use that. 3. I'm sorry but I do not understand the points you were trying to make in ticket 620. Can you try rephrasing a different way? I can tell you my Fedora account is from 2004 so wherever you pulled account age information from, it's not correct and perhaps needs to be fixed. Let me know if you'd like me to look into that - I would need to know what system gave you that false info. ~m On December 9, 2018 8:49:02 AM EST, "Cătălin George Feștilă" <catalinfest(a)gmail.com> wrote: >Sorry I cannot be always on the team meeting: >I try to supply this with my emails and comments: > >1. Why can you add my account to https://pagure.io/design members? >Is this a new political into design-team area? > >2. see my comment on : >https://pagure.io/design/issue/421 > >3. see my comment on: >https://pagure.io/design/issue/620 > >Thank you. Best regards. -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.

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Fedora 30 Artwork IRC Hackfest!
by Máirín Duffy 06 Dec '18

06 Dec '18

Hi! We talked about having a hackfest to work on Fedora 30's artwork (inspired by Fresnel.) See more about that in this blog post of our meeting today: http://blog.linuxgrrl.com/2018/12/04/fedora-design-team-meeting-4-nollaig-2… Please join us! Here is the whenisgood.net I set up for figuring out a time to have the meeting - make sure you pick your timezone at the top, paint in the time blocks you can make, and make sure to sign your name: http://whenisgood.net/79qzs5s What happens during these hackfests? We gather in #fedora-design, talk a bit about the inspiration for the release (Fresnel and his work), and pass links back and forth of inspiring visuals we find that relate to the theme. If time allows, we may start working on some visuals already. Please feel free to ask any questions, or if you can't make it, drop your ideas in this thread and I'll make sure to bring them up during the hackfest. Cheers, ~m

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Design Team Meeting Minutes 4 Dec 2018
by Máirín Duffy 04 Dec '18

04 Dec '18

Haigh a chairde, We met today! I did a blog post summary of the meeting, which is here: http://blog.linuxgrrl.com/2018/12/04/fedora-design-team-meeting-4-nollaig-2… I've copy-pasta'ed it below, for those who'd prefer to read in this email rather than visit a website. Cheers, ~m Today we had a Fedora Design Team meeting. Here’s what went down (https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-design/2018-12-04/design-team.2018…) Freenode<>Matrix.org Issues ============================ About half of the team members who participated today used matrix.org (e.g. the riot.im client). Unfortunately, we noticed an issue with bridging between these two networks today – both sides could see IRC comments, but matrix.org comments weren’t getting sent to IRC. ctmartin recognized the issue from another Fedora channel and figured out that if we added +v to the channel members using matrix, that would fix the issue. I am not sure if this is All Fixed Now or is going to be an ongoing Thing. But that is why our meeting started late today. If anybody has ideas on how to resolve this in a permanent way, I would very much appreciate your advice! Fedora 30 Artwork ================= For 5 Fedora releases now, the design team has been using a famous scientist / mathematician / technologist as the inspiration for the release artwork. We do this based on an alphabetical system; Fedora 30 is slated to be a person whose names begins with an “F.” Gnokii manages this process, and already set up and tallied the results for the design team-specific vote on which we chose from the following: - Federico Faggin (microprocessor) - Rosalin Franklin (DNA helix) - Sandford Fleming (Universal Standard Time) - Augustin-Jean Fresnel (fresnel lens) As gnokii announced on our team mailing list, the inspiration for the Fedora 30 artwork will be Augustin-Jean Fresnel. He also gathered the following set of inspirational images, which all revolve around the design of the Fresnel lens, which we talked about in the meeting would be a good central focus / concept for the artwork, whether it’s a depiction of a lens itself or some form of study of the diffraction pattern (and “thin-film” rainbow effect”) that inspired its invention: blue fresnel lens light with smoke ---------------------------------- https://www.shutterstock.com/de/video/clip-10182107-blue-fresnel-lens-light… Fresnel Lens HD Wallpaper ------------------------- http://wallpaperswide.com/fresnel_lens-wallpapers.html Cape Canaveral Fresnel Lens --------------------------- https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Cape_Canaveral_Light_1st_order_Fres… Blue Cubes abstract wallpaper ----------------------------- https://i0.wp.com/innotechindustries.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/cropped… The action item we got out of this discussion is that we need to meet separately, a remote hackfest if you will, to work on the F30 artwork (as we typically do each release.) This will take place in #fedora-design on IRC (or Fedora Design on matrix.org.) If you are interested in participating, here is the whenisgood.net to organize a time for this event: http://whenisgood.net/79qzs5s Exploring a Fedora logo refresh =============================== For the past few weeks we have been working with mattdm on exploring what a refresh of the Fedora logo might look like. This work has been ongoing in design ticket #620. There’s a few issues such a thing would aim to address – if you’ve ever worked with the current Fedora logo yourself, these should be pretty familiar (copy-pasta-ed from the ticket): - It doesn’t work well at small sizes - It doesn’t work at all in a single color - It’s hard to work with on a dark background - The “voice” bubble means it’s hard to center visually in designs - The Fedora wordmark is based on a non-open-source font - The “a” in the wordmark is easily mistaken for an o - The horizontal wordmark + logo with the “floated” trailing logo is challenging to work with - It gets confused with the Facebook logo The general approach here is a light touch, and not an overhaul. Below are some of the leading concepts / experiments thus far: The next step here that we discussed is for each concept, to create something like “style tiles” for each so we can better understand how each would play in context – how would it look like with our fonts, color palette, and what design elements would go with it. That process may surface some issues in the design of each which we’ll need to address. After that, we’ll open up to broad community input – maybe a formal survey and/or maybe some mini IRC or video chat focus group sessions and see how folks feel about it, gather feedback, see which concept the broader community prefers and see if there are tweaks / adjustments we can make to iterate it based on the feedback we receive. This is something we’ll continue to work on for the next few months. If you have feedback on the assets so far, please feel free to leave it in the comments here, but be nice please 🙂 and note this is still early stages. Are you new to Fedora Design? Would you like to join? ===================================================== This little ticket popped up in our triage during the meeting today, and is a good one for you to grab. It has a LibreOffice template you can use, or simply draw from for inspiration. Note the base font should be Overpass (free font, downloadable at overpassfont.org): https://pagure.io/design/issue/621 If that’s not your speed, we have a couple of other newbie tickets in our queue, check them out and feel free to grab one that piques your interest! https://pagure.io/design/issues?status=Open&tags=newbie Fedora Podcast Website Design ============================= terezahl, the Fedora Design team intern, has been working on a website design for the Fedora Podcast that x3mboy has created. She showed us a snapshot of her work-in-progress, and we gave her some feedback. Overall, it looks great, and we’re excited to see where it goes 🙂 https://pagure.io/design/issue/584 That’s it folks! ================ If you are interested in participating in the Fedora 30 Artwork IRC Hackfest, please vote for a timeslot here, ASAP 🙂 http://whenisgood.net/79qzs5s

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Badges FAD draft proposal available (feedback by Fri, Dec. 7th)
by Justin W. Flory 04 Dec '18

04 Dec '18

Hi all, The current FAD proposal draft is published on the wiki; feedback and suggestions are welcome before Friday, Dec. 7th: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD_Badges_2019 We aim to submit this proposal to the Fedora Council for consideration on Monday, December 10th. Logistic planning is happening this week. Sayan, Tanvi, and I had a call this morning to go over logistics. Marie and I are meeting this Thursday to finalize the logic model, location, and budget. The goals are divided into primary and secondary goals, where primary goals is considered "minimum amount for success" and secondary goals are "nice to have", if we end up with extra time. Please let us know if you have any feedback or suggestions to the FAD goals before Friday, Dec. 7th so we have time to work in any suggestions before we submit. Thanks! (P.S – Don't forget to say hello in #fedora-badges on Freenode / https://t.me/fedorabadges on Telegram to follow along with further progress.) -- Cheers, Justin W. Flory jflory7(a)gmail.com

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[Fedocal] Reminder meeting : Design Team Meeting
by duffy＠redhat.com 04 Dec '18

04 Dec '18

Dear all, You are kindly invited to the meeting: Design Team Meeting on 2018-12-04 from 13:00:00 to 14:00:00 US/Eastern At fedora-design(a)chat.freenode.net The meeting will be about: This weekly design team meeting will happen in #fedora-design on irc.freenode.net. If you do not have an IRC client, please join us via http://riot.im. More information available at: [http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Design](http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Design) Source: https://apps.fedoraproject.org/calendar/meeting/3152/

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