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Re: Using pulseaudio by default
by Matthias Clasen 19 Jan '07

19 Jan '07

On Fri, 2007-01-19 at 21:30 +0100, Pierre Ossman wrote: > > > Ah, I was wrong about the range, sorry. But still, after adding myself > > to the pulse-rt group, and logging in again, pulseaudio won't start, > > this time complaining about a nonreadable $HOME/.pulse/daemon.conf. > > > > Now this shouldn't happen. It should use your local conf if it exists, > but fall back to the global otherwise. I'll ask monty about this. I believe he investigated this particular problem in depth. > > > > Clearly, some work is needed to make pulseaudio-based sound work > > out of the box. > > > > Definitely, I just have too much on my table to do more than just basic > maintenance of the package. > Ok, I'll be happy to file some bugs and provide patches. How about this list of changes as a starting point: - Split esound into esound (daemon and utils) and esound-libs (#223503) - Make the package install /usr/bin/esd instead of /usr/bin/esdcompat and make it conflict with esound - that should take care of most of the gnome stack. - Figure out a way to avoid the pulse-rt group requirement, or alternatively, add users to pulse-rt automatically. - Make module-hal-detect work with recent kernels (http://pulseaudio.org/ticket/51)

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XDM/XSM - not getting proper X environment
by Ryan Daly 19 Jan '07

19 Jan '07

All: I've been using XDM for quite a while. After installing Fedora Core 6, XDM seems to be behaving differently. When I first logged in, it didn't seem to use my ~/.Xclients. I read a little and discovered that it was looking for xsm. I installed it and created a ~/.xsession file (which had the same lines as my .Xclients had). Things somewhat work, however when I log in my fonts are not what they should be, and some environment settings are not getting set. Using GDM, things work as they should. What changed, and how do I modify my config so that XDM works as it did? Thanks. -- ------------------------------------------------------------ This message and any files transmitted within are intended solely for the addressee or its representative and may contain company sensitive information. If you are not the intended recipient, notify the sender immediately and delete this message. Publication, reproduction, forwarding, or content disclosure is prohibited without the consent of the original sender and may be unlawful. Concurrent Technologies Corporation and its Affiliates. www.ctc.com 1-800-282-4392 ------------------------------------------------------------

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Using pulseaudio by default
by Matthias Clasen 19 Jan '07

19 Jan '07

Since one of the plans for better sound in FC7 involves replacing esound by pulseaudio, I had a look at this problem today. First there is a wiki page about transitioning the gnome stack to pulseaudio (http://live.gnome.org/PulseAudio?highlight=%28pulse%29) which as some white spots, so there is some work left to do - it may be possible to get there quickly for now by making use of the fact that pulseaudio has esd emulation, and worry about cleaning up libesd dependencies later. Is that the plan for FC7 ? What is the plan for gstreamer, use the pulseaudio alsa emulation ? Then, I installed the current Extras pulseaudio package, and found that it does not work :-(. Trying to run pulseaudio yields: main.c: WARNING: called SUID root, but not in group 'pulse-rt'. module-hal-detect.c: failed to detect any sound hardware. module.c: Failed to load "module-hal-detect" (argument: ""): initialization failed. main.c: Module load failed. main.c: failed to initialize daemon. Judging by the error message, pulseaudio seems to use some debianesque manage-by-groups scheme. Indeed, looking at /etc/group, the package created three groups, "pulse", "pulse-rt" and "pulse-access". But why are these created in the range of regular user-groups, and how does one use them ? I couldn't find any documentation about this in the package. Clearly, some work is needed to make pulseaudio-based sound work out of the box. Matthias

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[Fwd: Initial release of oss2pulse and updated fusd]
by Matthias Clasen 19 Jan '07

19 Jan '07

Forwarding this, since it seems stuck in the moderation queue and I have been unable to track down a list moderator...

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Re: Disable in X the restart/shutdown by user. How?
by Rob 18 Jan '07

18 Jan '07

Leo wrote: > On 2007-01-19, Rob said: > >>However, upon logout, I get the 'confirmation' >> window to "really logout" (which is good), but >> there I also get the options to Restart/Shutdown >> the machine after logout. I want to disable the >> latter options, but that appears to be very >> difficult. > > I also run Fedora 6 but there is no > Restart/Shutdown on the logout window. So it > should be a configurable option but I don't > know where to change that. What manager are you using for your personal desktop? KDE, GNOME, XFCE, .... ? The logout behaviour seems to be in charge of the desktop manager, but I'm not sure. On the XFCE mailinglist I was told that XFCE checks sudo configuration first, and next checks with the HAL configuration. For finding the solution, they delegated me back to the Fedora list.... So, you may say "go to XFCE list for this issue". However, in order to reboot the machine as a regular user, somehow there should be a configuration in Fedora that allows that. XFCE by itself cannot overrule such a configuration; OK, it may try, but I want Fedora to not allow a regular user to take the machine down.... Thanks, Rob. ____________________________________________________________________________________ Need a quick answer? Get one in minutes from people who know. Ask your question on www.Answers.yahoo.com

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Disable in X the restart/shutdown by user. How?
by Rob 18 Jan '07

18 Jan '07

Hi, I'm running FC6 with Gnome's gdm as the X loging manager (seems to be the default on Fedora) and with XFCE as my desktop manager. In the menu, there's a configuration option for the X login display, with which I can remove the Restart/Shutdown buttons on the login screen. So the X login screen is OK. However, upon logout, I get the 'confirmation' window to "really logout" (which is good), but there I also get the options to Restart/Shutdown the machine after logout. I want to disable the latter options, but that appears to be very difficult. I asked this question on the general fedora-list but nobody seems to know the answer. If I would use kdm, there seems to be a configurable option. So is this then a missing feature in Gnome's gdm, or a missing feature in Fedora in general? I hope someone on this mailing list can help me. Thanks, Rob. ____________________________________________________________________________________ Sucker-punch spam with award-winning protection. Try the free Yahoo! Mail Beta. http://advision.webevents.yahoo.com/mailbeta/features_spam.html

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Regunathan Umapathy/SRI/FIELD/WFP is out of the office.
by Regunathan Umapathy 13 Jan '07

13 Jan '07

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Regunathan Umapathy/SRI/FIELD/WFP is out of the office.
by Regunathan Umapathy 13 Jan '07

13 Jan '07

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hp note book with nvidia geforce go 6150 's problem
by da feng 08 Jan '07

08 Jan '07

hello, I find fedora 5 has a problem with geforce go 6150 graphics card. after screen saver is on or during boot up the desktop sometimes looks rusty, which means that the color is in a mess. But after reboot X, the problems goes. And sometimes the cursor is lost, then it need reboot. So I don't know what is wrong, may X has some bugs. --------------------------------- Mp3疯狂搜-新歌热歌高速下

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New Fedora GTK Theme
by Andrea Cimitan 02 Jan '07

02 Jan '07

Hi community, I'm Andrea Cimitan (aka Cimi), a gnome themer from Italy. :) Probably you had known my name in gnomelook.org, there I'm Cimi86, and I've created a lot of themes like Murrine GTK2 Cairo Engine (http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=42755, http://cimi.netsons.org/pages/murrine.php) and Candido Themes. I was thinking about a new proposal for Fedora Core GTK look. Do you know that Ubuntu has "Ubuntulooks" as default theme engine, so I thought "Why Fedora couldn't have Murrine?". Feedbacks on gnomelook.org and polls on Ubuntu Forums hilight that Murrine is the favourite Engine of Linux Desktop users. That's why I'm proposing to you. Murrine is a new-conception GTK2 Cairo engine, it was a fork of Clearlooks code with a lot of improvements and bugfixes: its best feature is surely the "options" through which the users can easily change the look of all the themes (There's a GUI here: http://cimi.netsons.org/pages/murrine/configurator.php). The engine is completely without bugs (it features support from gnome devs like benzea that helped me in the bugfix process) and it is is incredibly fast, nearly 50% faster than Clearlooks-Cairo and more if you compare it to Ubuntulooks. I think fedora could _at least_ add murrine to a repository, and then I can provide a fantastic color scheme for the fedora desktop. This is my proposale, I'm absolutely available to support you and to start a good discussion on it. I'm sure you will take care of these ideas so we can start a constructive thread to support or against it. See you!! Cimi - Andrea Cimitan

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