desktop October 2007

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The KDE-SIG needs (your) help
by Sebastian Vahl 14 Nov '07

14 Nov '07

This is a request for participation: The KDE-SIG [1] is atm lacking active contributors. And we really need some help in doing our job to provide a good KDE version in Fedora - especially with the upcoming KDE 4.0 and the inclusion in Fedora 9. If you don't know how you could help us here is a list (which is also in the wiki): * Packagers: There are so many interesting packages that are not yet packaged for Fedora. Package it to improve the user experience. * Reviewers: Only a few persons are doing the kde-related reviews. Help us reviewing so that more packages could be included. * Testers: If you love KDE use the development version or the updates-testing repository and report bugs, bugs, bugs, request enhancements or features. We need your feedback to improve KDE. * Bugs: Become a BugZapper and help us with kde-related bugs. * Documentation writers: The documentation (esp. the DesktopUserGuide) is GNOME-centered. Help us to provide an equivalent for KDE. * Release Notes: The few people that are working on the new KDE-Spin are quite busy with development issues. If you want to help us in writing the release notes for the next version of Fedora we would give you all the info you need. * Wiki: Maintain http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/KDE and keep it updated with end user information. * Artists: To provide a matching theme for nodoka-metacity-theme and provide an unified desktop experience. But this is not a complete list. If you're interested in making KDE in Fedora better, you're more than welcome. The list of participants in the wiki is atm not a list of active contributors. When setting up the wiki the only demand was an interest in KDE to be listed on this page. This list would be changed in the future to be culled down to the list of active (or reactivated) participants. This has become necessarely because there are only (less or more) 3 active contributors atm (plus Than Ngo). But the list indicates that there are enough people helping with KDE. If you are interested in joining the KDE-SIG please add your name to this list, answer to this mail, join us in #fedora-kde at freenode or attend the weekly KDE-SIG-Meetings (every tuesday 17:00 UTC). I will also add a topic to the agenda of the meeting next week to introduce new contributors. [2] The attendance at the SIG-Meetings is of course not required. But this way we would know of each other. And they are also the main place of discussing the next steps in the development (besides fedora-devel-list). If you have any further questions please answer to this mail or write me directly. And be sure: If your are willing to help you're welcome (regardless of your skills). :) Sebastian [1] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/KDE [2] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/KDE/Meetings/2007-11-06

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Detecting dbus session
by Jesse Keating 30 Oct '07

30 Oct '07

I'm trying to write a couple NetworkManager Dispatcher calls to futz with a few things that don't yet have NM capabilities. However I'm running into a snag, particularly with pidgin. Pidgin has a purple-remote call that uses dbus. nm-dispatcher runs as root so I have to switch to my user to accomplish things (currently via su - <user> -c "command args"). Seems though that a 'su - <user>' from root doesn't add the DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS env entry, and purple-remote can't find dbus or can't find pidgin on the bus. How can I programmatically figure out what the dbus address is, or otherwise accomplish what I'm trying to do? -- Jesse Keating Fedora -- All my bits are free, are yours?

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Desktop SIG meeting tomorrow
by Matthias Clasen 29 Oct '07

29 Oct '07

I will most likely not around tomorrow, so interested people will have to self-organize and find something useful to talk about. One topic that I'll throw on the agenda: We should pick a different time for the sig meeting, because several people (jrb, mcepl) said that they have difficulty making the current time. And from now on, I will only be available until 2:15 on most Wednesdays, too. Matthias

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Re: Request for inclusion of compizconfig-python and ccsm into F-8
by Warren Togami 26 Oct '07

26 Oct '07

Tom "spot" Callaway wrote: > On Thu, 2007-10-25 at 01:28 +0800, Mohd Izhar Firdaus Ismail wrote: >> Package: compizconfig-python-0.6.0-1.fc8 , ccsm-0.6.0-3.fc8 >> Request description: Inclusion into Fedora 8 final >> >> Rationale: >> Compiz Fusion has been one of the major attraction to Linux lately, >> and with Ubuntu already providing CF out of the box, users will expect >> other distros to have it too. There no full featured configurator for >> current compiz-fusion in F-8. >> >> Impact not accepting: >> Users will have to use gconf-editor to configure compiz-fusion >> manually. Marketing value might be affected. >> >> Others: >> current compiz in F-8 uses 'glib gconf' as its configuration >> backend, if FedoraProject decided to use libcompizconfig as the >> configuration backend, changes are needed in desktop-effects and >> /usr/bin/gnome-wm to load 'ccp' plugin instead of 'glib gconf'. CCSM >> requires compiz to use 'ccp' for it to function properly. > > +1 > Spot, did you notice that this requires changes to desktop-effects and gnome-session? It sounds like they expect it to be part of the default install, not just an add-on to the compiz of today. Is the desktop team aware and in agreement with these changes? Warren Togami wtogami(a)redhat.com

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think finger
by Bryan Clark 25 Oct '07

25 Oct '07

Pushing off from Ben's email on new user creation [1] I wanted to get some setup for the think finger support that david mentioned [2]. So to start off with some technical questions about think finger, some of these might be obvious to other people besides me: Can it's presence be detected automatically? And it's (pam) authentication be added automatically? How many times does it take to train think finger support initially? Can it be (re)trained incrementally? Is this required? What are the security models required for this? Thinkfinger && password? Thinkfinger || password? Just Thinkfinger? My assumption here is that either is accepted. Can we get the image from think finger for user feedback? Ray mentioned we might be able to fake it, which would probably be good enough. Can we detect / remember the number of failed think finger attempts before a successful one? This is related to retraining, if it's possible to retrain the reader or human to scan better over time. I think that's all for now, I'd like to work off responses. ~ Bryan [1] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-desktop-list/2007-October/msg00002.h… <https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-desktop-list/2007-October/msg00002.h…> [2] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-desktop-list/2007-October/msg00021.h… <https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-desktop-list/2007-October/msg00021.h…>

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Re: Request for inclusion of compizconfig-python and ccsm into F-8
by Warren Togami 24 Oct '07

24 Oct '07

Tom "spot" Callaway wrote: > On Wed, 2007-10-24 at 15:51 -0400, Warren Togami wrote: >> Tom "spot" Callaway wrote: >>> On Thu, 2007-10-25 at 01:28 +0800, Mohd Izhar Firdaus Ismail wrote: >>>> Package: compizconfig-python-0.6.0-1.fc8 , ccsm-0.6.0-3.fc8 >>>> Request description: Inclusion into Fedora 8 final >>>> >>>> Rationale: >>>> Compiz Fusion has been one of the major attraction to Linux lately, >>>> and with Ubuntu already providing CF out of the box, users will expect >>>> other distros to have it too. There no full featured configurator for >>>> current compiz-fusion in F-8. >>>> >>>> Impact not accepting: >>>> Users will have to use gconf-editor to configure compiz-fusion >>>> manually. Marketing value might be affected. >>>> >>>> Others: >>>> current compiz in F-8 uses 'glib gconf' as its configuration >>>> backend, if FedoraProject decided to use libcompizconfig as the >>>> configuration backend, changes are needed in desktop-effects and >>>> /usr/bin/gnome-wm to load 'ccp' plugin instead of 'glib gconf'. CCSM >>>> requires compiz to use 'ccp' for it to function properly. >>> +1 >>> >> Spot, did you notice that this requires changes to desktop-effects and >> gnome-session? It sounds like they expect it to be part of the default >> install, not just an add-on to the compiz of today. Is the desktop team >> aware and in agreement with these changes? > > Good point, I read this too quickly. :) I pull back my vote, pending > desktop team signoff. > > ~spot > We could include the requested packages because they alone are harmless, but not make the suggested changes to desktop-effects and gnome-session. Mohd, what exact N-V-R's are you requesting? I would like to inspect them. Warren Togami wtogami(a)redhat.com

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Re: Fedora-desktop-list Digest, Vol 44, Issue 9
by a3ukasz Peb3szynski 19 Oct '07

19 Oct '07

> Hi! > > This is related to a ath5k bug in the kernel, see > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=254192 ... > Martin Hi! I wasn't aware that it might be an ath5k driver. It all looked like gdm's error... but I hope everything will be OK with atheros driver. Greetings

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how to run fedora 8 test 3
by a3ukasz Peb3szynski 17 Oct '07

17 Oct '07

Good afternoon, First of all I'd like to thank Martin Jorgens for his answer to my question about madwifi. My today's question: Is there any way to log in after booting F8 test 3 live cd ? Looks like there's an error, becuse counter on gdm screen goes below zero. Has anyone noticed that and if so, how did you solve it ? Thanks in advance. Lukasz Pelszynski

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madwifi in fedora 8
by a3ukasz Peb3szynski 14 Oct '07

14 Oct '07

Good morning, I wonder why madwifi was not included in fedora 6 & 7 by default. I had a big trouble configuring my wireless network. Will it be included in fedora 8? Greetings

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Desktop SIG meeting
by Matthias Clasen 10 Oct '07

10 Oct '07

...should take place again today, at 18:00 UTC. Possible things to talk about are pressing issues that need to be adressed before F8 (ie F8Blocker / F8Target bugs) and what is planned for F9.

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