desktop May 2007

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Re: Fedora 8 - more user friendly updates?
by Valent Turkovic 16 May '07

16 May '07

On 5/15/07, Till Maas <gmane2.20.boeh(a)spamgourmet.com> wrote: > Valent Turkovic wrote: > > > One thing I found really exceptional was Ubuntu's granual update. You > > can choose what types of updates you wan't the system to inform you of > > - only security updates, system updates (desktop and related programs) > > or all updates (all installed packages). > > > Is there any plan for Fedora 8 to be more user friendly in this > > regard? I love Fedora Desktop more that any other linux desktop and > > just would like to see it adopt the great ideas that others have > > already implemented and then suprise them with some new features that > > other destops don't have. > > When you use yum, you can use this yum plugin to only install security > updates. This works for Core Packages in FC6 and all in F7. > > http://people.redhat.com/jantill/yum-security/yum-security.man.html > > Regards, > Till > I know that no matter what technical question I ask there is an answer. I know about yum plugins... but the point is that in Ubuntu there is a really nice gui and it is really intuitive. You see there three choices, choose which kind of updates you want and off you go. If you don't know about yum plugins on fedora you are stuck, and on Ubuntu (sorry to push it all the time in your face) even if you don't know that there is a such possibility when you open the "update config tool" or what it is called - you see it and it becomes clear instantly.

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Re: Fedora 8 - more user friendly updates?
by Arthur Pemberton 16 May '07

16 May '07

> When you use yum, you can use this yum plugin to only install security > updates. This works for Core Packages in FC6 and all in F7. Isn't moving so many, apparently useful features into non default plugins diluting the apparent effectiveness of yum? -- Fedora Core 6 and proud

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Fedora 8 - more user friendly updates?
by Valent Turkovic 15 May '07

15 May '07

Hi, I posted this as a bug - if I should post this somewhere else please tell me where. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=240110 I find Fedora 6/7 update system not so user friendly as other linux desktops I tested. Ubuntu and OpenSuse ask during the first update if you would like to add the current user to privileged user list. All users on this list don't need to type root password every time they do an update. One thing I found really exceptional was Ubuntu's granual update. You can choose what types of updates you wan't the system to inform you of - only security updates, system updates (desktop and related programs) or all updates (all installed packages). Is there any plan for Fedora 8 to be more user friendly in this regard? I love Fedora Desktop more that any other linux desktop and just would like to see it adopt the great ideas that others have already implemented and then suprise them with some new features that other destops don't have. Thank you. -- http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com/ linux, blog, anime, spirituality, windsurf, wireless registered as user #367004 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org. ICQ: 2125241 Skype: valent.turkovic

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Hi fedora users
by cibertazzi 15 May '07

15 May '07

I was install Fedora Core 6 in my desktop ,and everything ok ,but in uptodate my fedora in new boot not work ,how can I do about this? anybody know?

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Plans for the desktop beyond Fedora 7
by Matthias Clasen 14 May '07

14 May '07

The desktop team has recently started to think about what things we want to focus on beyond F7, and what we want to improve in the Fedora 8 timeframe. While there are no very detailed specs and commitments yet, I have put together some preliminary information in the wiki, and I'd like to share it with the interested public on this mailing list. Feel free to comment and discuss. There will be some more feature descriptions in the near future, and the ones I have begun will hopefully be fleshed out more fully by their respective owners. Matthias http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/FeaturePulseaudio http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/FeaturePolicyKit http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/FeatureBigboard

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CodecBuddy - how to help?
by Valent Turkovic 11 May '07

11 May '07

Hi, I tried contacting CodecBuddy develoopers but with no luck. I wan't to help with testing it and bug hunting but need some pointers how. Can anybody tell me how I can get in and help out? Thank you in advance. -- http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com/ linux, blog, anime, spirituality, windsurf, wireless registered as user #367004 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org. ICQ: 2125241 Skype: valent.turkovic

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RFC local modify of gnome-screensaver unlock and or pam
by Skunk Worx 11 May '07

11 May '07

Goal: ----- When using gnome-screensaver I would like a simple unlock dialog that prompts for both user name and password. It should not show the current user name. If the (user,password) pair authenticates, the current user desktop is unlocked and the applications are again visible. The unlock (user,password) pair need not be the owner of the desktop. Background: ----------- I am creating an information kiosk. On power-up it does an auto-login and locks the screen with gnome-screensaver-command. Finally it auto-starts a number of graphical system status applications. There exists a set of (user,password) pairs that should be able to unlock the screen and see the currently running applications. After one user authenticates with their (user,password) pair, the user locks the screen with either the menu lock option or the screen will eventually lock due to a screensaver timeout. Another user can then walk up to the kiosk, unlock the screen with their specific (user,password) pair, check the system status, and then leave. This should be logged so I know which user is looking at the system status apps at any given time. The process continues with other (user,password) pairs as necessary. We don't want the users to have a single (user,password) pair. Current Status : ---------------- It looks like Fedora 7 will be the basic platform. I am using FC6 for now. Auto-login, starting the apps, locking and unlocking the screen with the auto-start system (user,password) are all working. However the dialog that pops up to unlock the screen shows the auto-login user name and prompts for a password. So far I have tried adding "user1" and "user2" using the -o option to useradd (giving them the same UID/GID as the auto-start account) and then setting "user_switch_enabled" for gnome-screensaver. Unfortunately this is not enough: 1) Actually switching users only shows "other UID" users in the selection list, not the "sibling UID users". 2) Switching to a "other UID" user creates a new Desktop for the other UID, which is as expected, but not desired. Useful for testing though. 3) Switching users again from an "other UID" shows all the "sibling UID" accounts in the list. Selecting one of the "sibling UID" users (but not the auto-login user) gets to the auto-login desktop configuration, but without the auto-started applications visible. It appears I will have to modify the gnome-screensaver-dialog and possibly pam to get this to work. I have looked at the g-s src rpm plugin code and have considered a few mods but haven't tried anything yet. Before continuing I thought I would ask here for advice, comments or suggestions. Thanks, John

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F7 test4 - ugly login - or is it me? :)
by Valent Turkovic 10 May '07

10 May '07

Hi, IMHO the GDM theme on Fedora 7 test 3 was much more user-friendly and looked nicer than one I see in Fedora 7 test 4. The theme hasn't changed but the icon for "face browser" had. Not beside user name there is some strange icon with a question mark on the face which looks odious to me. It doesn't look inviting, and doesn't give me the welcome feeling that a login page should be about. And comments? Or is it just me? :) -- http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com/ linux, blog, anime, spirituality, windsurf, wireless registered as user #367004 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org. ICQ: 2125241 Skype: valent.turkovic

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Installation of Flash plugin on Fedora 7 test 4 in Firefox
by Valent Turkovic 09 May '07

09 May '07

I tried installing adobe flash plugin on clean install of Fedora 7 test 4. It failed 2-3 times then I recorded my first video of it failing for bug submission. And here is the video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g9zI9vpLdgM Should this be reported as a bug? And if yes - where? Is this a Firefox bug? After that I tied once more and it failed again. Then I started recording it again, and then it seceded! Here is the video of it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=666z1sGfEv8 What are other people's experience with installing flash under Fedora 7? It is great that it works as it does in Windows in order to make it easier for new users. Great job Fedora team! Keep it up and just polish these small quirks. Thanks! -- http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com/ linux, blog, anime, spirituality, windsurf, wireless registered as user #367004 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org. ICQ: 2125241 Skype: valent.turkovic

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Fedora 7 test 4 - NVIDIA nforce 430 SATA controller driver not loading
by Allan Wolfe 02 May '07

02 May '07

I have an HP DV9000 that has an NVIDIA nforce 430/410 SATA controller. I get prompted for specifying the device driver to load at installation with Fedora 7 test 4 installation. Fedora Core 6 had no problem finding the hard drive and installing when "noapic" is added as a kernel option, though FC6 had other sordid issues post-installation. I was a bit surprised, with such a common chipset, that the driver was not on the list/supplied.

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