desktop September 2007

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23 discussions

Nautilus default in spatial mode?
by Martin Sourada 18 Sep '07

18 Sep '07

Hi, I know this was discussed hundred times already, but I again ran to a F8T2 review [1] which mentions this. Why is the nautilus defaulted to spatial mode? IMHO, the browser mode is much more effective, has the very useful sidepanel (treeview and bookmarks are the most usefull ones), and opens only one window. Is there any reason to stay with spatial mode, while almost anyone complains about it? Thanks, Martin PS: I know, that I can change it very fast, but shouldn't the default be the more effective one? References: [1] http://blogbeebe.blogspot.com/2007/09/fedora-8-test-2-nano-review.html

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Replacing the bittorrent client
by Bastien Nocera 18 Sep '07

18 Sep '07

Heya, Does anyone have any objections to me replacing the "official" bittorrent client (~2 megs) with Transmission (~500k)? Transmission is better integrated in the desktop, smaller in size, and better maintained. Cheers

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Reducing fonts on KDE-LiveCD
by Sebastian Vahl 18 Sep '07

18 Sep '07

Hi. Due to some changes in the past (anaconda requires zenity requires yelp requires firefox / wallpaper is now in gnome-backgrounds which requires desktop-backgrounds-basic) the size of the kde livecd is exploding. I think the easiest way of saving some space is to remove some fonts. But I need some help with this to not remove some essential fonts for some people. The included fonts atm are: bitmap-fonts cjkunifonts-ukai cjkunifonts-uming dejavu-lgc-fonts fontconfig fonts-arabic fonts-bengali fonts-chinese fonts-gujarati fonts-hebrew fonts-hebrew-fancy fonts-hindi fonts-ISO8859-2 fonts-ISO8859-2-100dpi fonts-ISO8859-2-75dpi fonts-japanese fonts-kannada fonts-KOI8-R fonts-KOI8-R-100dpi fonts-KOI8-R-75dpi fonts-korean fonts-malayalam fonts-oriya fonts-punjabi fonts-sinhala fonts-tamil fonts-telugu fonts-truetype-apl fonts-x11-apl ghostscript-fonts jomolhari-fonts liberation-fonts libfontenc libXfont libXfontcache sazanami-fonts-gothic sazanami-fonts-mincho urw-fonts xorg-x11-fonts-100dpi xorg-x11-fonts-ISO8859-1-100dpi xorg-x11-fonts-misc xorg-x11-fonts-truetype xorg-x11-fonts-Type1 xorg-x11-font-utils Suggestions? Sebastian P.S.: The full package list of my actual version is listed here: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SebastianVahl/CurrentPackageList

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Suggestions for Firefox benchmarks
by Arthur Pemberton 18 Sep '07

18 Sep '07

Hello, I find Firefox on Fedora Core 7 to be near unusably slow. As such, I am hoping for some suggestions on how I came quantify Firefox's performance. At present, I only have relative evidence: On Firefox/Fedora I only have "Dom Inspector", "Adblock", and "DownloadThemAll" where as on my much slower laptop machine Firefox/WinXP has the same addons, plus many more with no noticeable slowdowns. I do have Flash 9 installed, however, I have seen no correlation between Flash and slowdowns. At one point i hit a vmsize for firefox of over 900MB, unfortunately I didn't take proper note of the circumstances. Since I haven't done anything special to Firefox, I'm hoping to gather some more objective information, possible find out if there is really a problem. Please advise, Arthur Pemberton -- Fedora 7 : sipping some of that moonshine ( www.pembo13.com )

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Can Name=GenericName go away now, please?
by Rex Dieter 17 Sep '07

17 Sep '07

<rant> yes, this is a pet-peave of mine, bear that in mind while I vent </rant> Can apps start using better menu names now, so users know which apps are really behind the mysterious generic items in menus, e.g., Internet->Contacts (evolution) Internet->Email (evolution) Internet->Internet Messenger (pidgin) Internet->IRC (xchat) Office->Calendar (evolution) Office->Word Processor (oowriter) Office->Spreadsheet (oocalc) ... please please, pretty please? -- Rex

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No Desktop Live CD?
by Bastien Nocera 14 Sep '07

14 Sep '07

Heya, I was looking at the Live CDs available for F8 test2, and could find it/identify it. http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/releases/test/7.91/Live/… Any hints? Cheers

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Reminder: Desktop SIG meeting today
by Matthias Clasen 12 Sep '07

12 Sep '07

Meeting will take place at 2pm EST (19:00 UTC) in #fedora-meeting on freenode. I don't have a big agenda prepared; and I assume that we will be somewhat short on people today, with the X team still at XDS and some other people travelling as well. Matthias

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no epiphany.i386 package for Fedora x86_64 ?
by Anuj Verma (Kevin) 11 Sep '07

11 Sep '07

Hello, I use epiphany as my default browser of choice instead firefox. This goes well on i386 installs of Fedora but on x86_64 installations this becomes a trouble, if tools like nspluginwrapper are not working fine or if 64bit JRE plugin is not there yet. Fedora for x86_64 has a firefox.i386 package for 32bit compatibility, should epiphany also have epiphany.i386 package in x86_64 repo ? Kevin

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meeting time
by Ray Strode 10 Sep '07

10 Sep '07

What time should we have the desktop SIG meetings? We currently do 2-3 on Wednesday. --Ray

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Desktop SIG meeting today
by Matthias Clasen 10 Sep '07

10 Sep '07

I just realized that I will not be able to attend the meeting today (for some reason I thought it was at 1, not at 2). Here are the notes that I had for things that could be discussed today. I hope someone else can do the cheering/dancing/leading. Chris are you going to be there ? Matthias Anyway, here are my notes: test2 status • what desktop features are in and testable ? ∘ animated backgrounds ∘ bluetooth printing, browsing, smsing ∘ pulseaudio ∘ codecbuddy ∘ policykit - not much there yet, need to check with david, intlclock, gnome-device-manager still missing ∘ lots of quirks for suspend/resume and keyboard handling ∘ new theme (partially) ∘ bigboard • which desktop features are not yet in ? ∘ new NM ∘ xulrunner desktop spin status (from booting a spin built with yesterdays rawhide) • udev slow • tries to set up lvm - why ? • rpcbind/statd/idmapd - should be turned off • autofs too • do we want rhgb on the livecd ? • starting avahi fails - needs to be after NM ? • dhcdbd should go out with the new NM • avoid getty on vt1 ? volunteers needed • test2 feature testing and bug hunt • side-by-side comparison to ubuntu, opensuse, etc wiki • SIGs/Desktop vs Desktop is confusing to me, can we have just one ?

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