desktop May 2008

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5 discussions

A new user management tool
by Matthias Clasen 11 Jun '08

11 Jun '08

We (Jon McCann and myself, with some input from others) have been working on a design for a new user management tool, with the goal of coming up with something better than the current trias of system-config-users, gnome-about-me and gdmsetup. The design is not finalized, you can see the current state of affairs here: http://people.redhat.com/mclasen/user-account3.pdf.bz2 (I really wanted to put this on the wiki, but all I could only get proxy errors when trying to do so). Comments are welcome. Please note the section on target audience and use cases. Matthias

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system tools vs administration menu
by Rahul Sundaram 02 Jun '08

02 Jun '08

Hi, What's the difference actually supposed to be? Whatever it is certainly some programs are not following the idea probably because the distinction doesn't seem to be documented anywhere. gconf-editor is in system tools yumex and smart is in system tools gpk-application is in administration Rahul

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No Network with Network-Manager Daemon
by Carsten Breuer 15 May '08

15 May '08

Hi all, i have updated FC8 at may, 14. After that my network was broken. eth0 was up but there was no proper setup of the route. After /etc/init.d/network restart everything was fine (since the next reboot). It seems to me that NetworkManager Daemon make worse things? Is this a new daemon? Best Regards, Carsten Breuer

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few ideas how to make fedora better as a desktop
by Valent Turkovic 06 May '08

06 May '08

I have a few ideas that IMO would make Fedora more usable as a general desktop and developer platform: What? : 1. have gnome-terminal shortcut on gnome panel (as firefox and evolution) 2. have gnome clipboard manager installed by default (glipper gnome applet) 3. have /usr/sbin and /sbin in PATH for regular users Why? : 1. because gnome-terminal is the second most used [1] application on gnome desktop and this would make it more accessible for users. 2. because any desktop needs a good clipboard manager, it enhances usability enormously. 3. I personally need it only for some commands - like /sbin/ifconfig and /sbin/iwconfig are there any down sides to putting new /sbin and /usr/sbin in every users PATH variable? What do you think is this a good or bad idea? Cheers, Valent. [1] http://online.gnome.org/applications -- http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com/ linux, blog, anime, spirituality, windsurf, wireless registered as user #367004 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org. ICQ: 2125241, Skype: valent.turkovic

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Online Desktop run-through redux
by Owen Taylor 01 May '08

01 May '08

I spent some time today running through the same things I did 3 weeks ago with a new set of packages we've built for Fedora 9 (maybe the final set), and things in general were much stabler and more polished. Thanks for the hard work everybody! I did, of course, see some things I didn't notice on the last run through. - Owen Regressions =========== * Application pages are badly screwed up at the moment because of wrong CSS (Colin committed some fixes and is working testing) Stuff I didn't notice before ============================ * The Save/Cancel options when editing fields on http://online.gnome.org/accounts have some issues: http://bugzilla.mugshot.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1397 * We are properly handling launching the Mugshot client or not on login, but it would be nice to do it dynamically if the user enables Mugshot through the web: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=529963 * The newly added "Configure IM Accounts" link doesn't work if Pidgin is already running: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=529964 * On Fedora 9 (and on all GNOME-2.22?) the dialog you get when you select "Log out or Shutdown..." only allows you to log out, not to shut down. http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=529967 * In a newly created account, the contents of the application browser was all messed up: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=529972 Old stuff verified fixed ======================== * When Firefox was started, it came up with two tabs, both with the Fedora start page ** Bigboard was configured to use the default "Milky" theme rather than the Fedora theme. * Mugshot stacker was started (because it was installed on the system) and showed a stack with an initial share about "setup your account" even though I hadn't enabled Mugshot. * It seemed a little less than obvious that you should click on the "Enable Online Desktop" link to proceed, especially with the browser window sitting there. There wasn't a clear flow that enabling the online desktop was the *first* step. ** The desktop data engine didn't pick up my login until I manually restarted it. I think this was because I didn't have a Firefox profile at all (or even a .mozilla dir) when I started the desktop-data-engine, so it couldn't establish an inotify watch. ** A "GNOME Online" person appeared in the People stock. * There was no obvious way to add more people to the people stock. If there are no online.g.o contacts, a minimal thing would be to have a button to launch Pidgin. ** People stock slideouts got a bright red header in the Milky theme (theme bug causing the header not to be drawn themed.) * Sidebar Preferences should put a border around the preview images - they look funny blending into the background. * Apps stock should be labelled "Applications" not "Apps"? ** I got fooled when trying to add a stock to the sidebar by the "Add to sidebar" button next to the google gadget link entry. Unless we fix the google gadget stuff very soon, we should just remove it from the F9 packages. ** Logging into GMail in mail stock: - Should show Connecting... between the point where you apply a new password and it succeeds or fails - In the case of failure, should be button or link to get back to the point of logging in again, instead of having to navigate back through sidebar preferences. * In the Apps browser, selecting an application (which shows the profile to the left) should also highlight the selected app, since otherwise you don't feel you have good click-feedback. Same for the People browser

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