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Color Management Test Day Thursday 2010-02-18
by Adam Williamson 16 Feb '10

16 Feb '10

It's Test Day time again! This Thursday, 2010-02-18, will be Color Management Test Day[1]. There's some exciting new color management features[2] in Fedora 13. That is to say, there are color management features in Fedora 13! We've never had any real color management in Fedora before, so this is great news for photographers and designers in particular - but everybody, really. The good news is testing for this Test Day is very easy - anyone with a monitor can do most of the testing. A scanner, printer, webcam or colorimeter let you do some other tests. You don't need a Rawhide installation to do the testing, just a nightly live image[3] will do fine, and the testing process is fully documented and won't take more than a few minutes. So come out and help us test! Even if you don't use Fedora, you can test very easily with a live image, and this is one of those features that's popping up in Fedora first but will soon appear in all distributions (as it'll be part of GNOME itself), so you'll be helping your own distribution by testing. The Test Day will run all day in Freenode IRC #fedora-test-day. [1] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2010-02-18_Color_management [2] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/ColorManagement [3] http://alt.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/nightly-composes/desktop/ -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org http://www.happyassassin.net

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Desktop validation testing is go!
by Adam Williamson 15 Feb '10

15 Feb '10

Hey, desktop group. Some of you may be aware of some of the work going on in Fedora 13 cycle to implement desktop validation testing. Well, we're up and running! The test compose for F13 Alpha is out - http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/test/2010-February/088476.html - and that's the first planned point for desktop validation testing. I have the test cases and results matrix ready here: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Fedora_13_Alpha_TC_Desktop_Test_Results so if anyone feels like grabbing the TC, giving it a whirl, and helping to fill out the results table, that'd be awesome. We (QA) will do some testing too, but the more results the better, and it's always good to have multiple people / groups involved. Hopefully the links above should give you everything you need to know, let me know if anything seems unclear! Thanks. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org http://www.happyassassin.net

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Re: Proposal: move comps to fedorahosted git
by Bill Nottingham 15 Feb '10

15 Feb '10

Josh Boyer (jwboyer(a)gmail.com) said: > On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 04:45:06PM -0500, Bill Nottingham wrote: > >I'd like to propose moving comps to fedorahosted git. > >Why? Because CVS is a pain. > > > >I can work on fixing the automated releng tasks that use comps. > > > >What I'd like to know is if doing this at some point over the > >next few weeks (say, post-Alpha) would be a problem for people. > >If it is, we can push it off until after F13 ships. > > I know mash currently does a checkout of comps when it starts. I'm > not sure if bodhi just relies on that, or if it also does it's own > checkout. It does its own; I'd be on the hook for fixing it. Bill

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Re: [Design-team] Hands-on: new single-window mode makes GIMP less gimpy
by Nicu Buculei 11 Feb '10

11 Feb '10

On 02/07/2010 06:41 PM, Máirín Duffy wrote: > On Fri, 2010-02-05 at 10:28 +0100, Valent Turkovic wrote: >> http://arstechnica.com/open-source/reviews/2010/02/hands-on-new-single-wind… >> >> Can't wait to get my hands on single-windows GIMP! > > I want that so bad! We had recently the GIMP package maintainer commenting on the Desktop list[1], it looks like we will get it packaged only after the final release, which is currently targeted around December. Maybe an un-official build tracking the development would help a lot of people getting their GIMP fix, there are changes which got a lot of people excited (not only the GUI, but also more gegl integration). [1] http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/desktop/2010-February/005783.html -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/

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Re: [Design-team] Hands-on: new single-window mode makes GIMP less gimpy
by Paul W. Frields 11 Feb '10

11 Feb '10

On Sun, Feb 07, 2010 at 11:41:20AM -0500, Máirín Duffy wrote: > On Fri, 2010-02-05 at 10:28 +0100, Valent Turkovic wrote: > > http://arstechnica.com/open-source/reviews/2010/02/hands-on-new-single-wind… > > > > Can't wait to get my hands on single-windows GIMP! > > I want that so bad! > > I do think the example photo in the screenshots is in poor taste, > though. :) I guess it would depend on whether people in the picture worked on the new single window mode of GIMP. If so, good on them! If not, shame on the editors for creating that impression. -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ Where open source multiplies: http://opensource.com

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Re: desktop Digest, Vol 72, Issue 1
by Hristo Petkov 11 Feb '10

11 Feb '10

Hi, is this single-window GIMP alpha or beta and where can I find .rpm (I didn't see such on the GIMP page). Regards --- On Fri, 2/5/10, desktop-request(a)lists.fedoraproject.org <desktop-request(a)lists.fedoraproject.org> wrote: From: desktop-request(a)lists.fedoraproject.org <desktop-request(a)lists.fedoraproject.org> Subject: desktop Digest, Vol 72, Issue 1 To: desktop(a)lists.fedoraproject.org Date: Friday, February 5, 2010, 12:00 PM Send desktop mailing list submissions to desktop(a)lists.fedoraproject.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to desktop-request(a)lists.fedoraproject.org You can reach the person managing the list at desktop-owner(a)lists.fedoraproject.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of desktop digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Hands-on: new single-window mode makes GIMP less gimpy (Valent Turkovic) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 5 Feb 2010 10:28:10 +0100 From: Valent Turkovic <valent.turkovic(a)gmail.com> Subject: Hands-on: new single-window mode makes GIMP less gimpy To: Fedora Design Team <design-team(a)lists.fedoraproject.org>, Discussions about development for the Fedora desktop <fedora-desktop-list(a)redhat.com> Message-ID: <64b14b301002050128m6330dbdak5a9f0443d40cdb37(a)mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 http://arstechnica.com/open-source/reviews/2010/02/hands-on-new-single-wind… Can't wait to get my hands on single-windows GIMP! Valent. -- pratite me na twitteru - www.twitter.com/valentt http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com/ linux, blog, anime, spirituality, windsurf, wireless registered as user #367004 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org. ICQ: 2125241, Skype: valent.turkovic, msn: valent.turkovic(a)hotmail.com ------------------------------ -- desktop mailing list desktop(a)lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop End of desktop Digest, Vol 72, Issue 1 **************************************

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RE: The Discussion about Changes
by Hristo Petkov 11 Feb '10

11 Feb '10

In a reply to this: _________________________________________________________________________ When Mike McGrath opened up Fedora Hosted, I think he specifically made that point -- but ISTR it was more in the context of, "we don't want to end up hosting a bunch of dead code." Sourceforge, AFAIK, allows a project to live on indefinitely, whereas we thresh through our hosted projects and, with prior notification to the maintainers, release projects that are dead or unmaintained: https://fedorahosted.org/web/terms _________________________________________________________________________ I would like to say that this is a very good view point, but the justification is different. It is not the lifetime of a project but rather the user. People do not want to change that fast (as the developers of the Project would like to). Actually people don't like to change at all, unless they are forced by the circumstances to do so. (In the past I have been a developer of expert systems and I know this for sure from personal experience). In my view the lifecycle of the projects should be extended from 6 months to 2 years, and the maintenance term pro rate to this. If the developers are willing to make gigantic steps - no problems. They may develop specialised versions with specific implementation and applications to users who are willing to pay for that. It is just an opinion. Regards

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Re: [Design-team] Hands-on: new single-window mode makes GIMP less gimpy
by Paul W. Frields 10 Feb '10

10 Feb '10

On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 11:50:57AM -0500, Máirín Duffy wrote: > On Wed, 2010-02-10 at 10:04 -0500, William Jon McCann wrote: > > We should also probably consider debranding Fedora hosted so it isn't > > as distasteful to people looking for a sourceforge alternative. > > I didn't think we're in the business of being a sourceforge alternative > nor do I think we want to be or have the resources to do that. When Mike McGrath opened up Fedora Hosted, I think he specifically made that point -- but ISTR it was more in the context of, "we don't want to end up hosting a bunch of dead code." Sourceforge, AFAIK, allows a project to live on indefinitely, whereas we thresh through our hosted projects and, with prior notification to the maintainers, release projects that are dead or unmaintained: https://fedorahosted.org/web/terms -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ Where open source multiplies: http://opensource.com

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Re: [Design-team] Hands-on: new single-window mode makes GIMP less gimpy
by Nicu Buculei 09 Feb '10

09 Feb '10

On 02/08/2010 11:28 PM, Máirín Duffy wrote: > On Mon, 2010-02-08 at 16:16 -0500, Paul W. Frields wrote: >> On Sun, Feb 07, 2010 at 11:41:20AM -0500, Máirín Duffy wrote: >>> >>> I do think the example photo in the screenshots is in poor taste, >>> though. :) >> >> I guess it would depend on whether people in the picture worked on the >> new single window mode of GIMP. If so, good on them! If not, shame >> on the editors for creating that impression. > > I would be surprised if they did - my initial 'poor taste' comment was > in response to the recently highly-publicized dropping of Gimp from the > Ubuntu core. Then I guess it would have been in equally poor taste if it featured a bunch of people with a big Fedora banner :p -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/

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RE: GIMP less 'gimpy'
by Hristo Petkov 09 Feb '10

09 Feb '10

Hi, Just to ask: I found in the repository list of the OS on my PC (F11) these two: - GIMP plugin for gutenprint - Headers for developing programs in Gnome Does anyone of you know whether they install to GIMP the CMS you are talking about. Regards

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