desktop December 2014

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I cannot login with Wayland at all.
by Peter Laursen 13 Dec '14

13 Dec '14

If I am trying to do so, I am getting returned to the login screen after around 1 second. If it matters my system has (unused9 Intel 4000 graphics on yhr MB and a (used) Geforce card (for higher resolution). Does somebody know if this is this a known problem? There must be some logs with debugging information. But where will I find them? I may consider reporting to FZ, but developers will prbbably require logs. And if it is a known issue already reported, there is no idea in doing so. -- Hilsen / Regards Peter Laursen

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VSYNC problems on Intel graphics in Fedora Workstation...
by Alex G.S. 12 Dec '14

12 Dec '14

Dear List, First of all I want to start this by saying that this is the best release of Fedora I've ever worked with. GNOME is beautiful on Workstation and this release helped pushed me over the fence to making GNOME my default desktop. I use Fedora Workstation at work where I'm in DevOps and at home. Congratulations on this release and thank you! Work machine: Thinkpad T440p Graphics: Intel HD 4600 "Haswell" Kernel: 3.17.4-302.fc21.x86_64 Packages: mutter.x86_64 3.14.2-1.fc21 xorg-x11-drv-intel.x86_64 2.99.916-3.20141117.fc21 mesa-dri-drivers.x86_64 10.3.3-1.20141110.fc21 I'm having some strange VSYNC issues with GNOME Shell at the moment under the Xorg session. Under Wayland, which is amazing on Intel graphics, none of these problems happen but that session unfortunately isn't totally stable yet. My setup has two external monitors which are configured as secondary workspaces in GNOME. When I use either SNA or Glamor as my "AccelMethod" in my Xorg my external monitors don't have proper VSYNC at boot and I get massive tearing. '/etc/X11/xorg.conf' Option "AccelMethod" "sna" -- or -- Option "AccelMethod" "glamor" When I use UXA and the following workaround in my /etc/environment I finally get proper VSYNC but moving windows is choppy. '/etc/X11/xorg.conf' Option "AccelMethod" "uxa' '/etc/environment' CLUTTER_PAINT=disable-clipped-redraws:disable-culling CLUTTER_VBLANK=True In all cases above when I have a window go full-screen VSYNC breaks completely on my external monitors and only resolves itself after that window is closed. It seems that there is a problem with undirecting the fullscreen window. I'm not exactly sure as I've never encountered this before in GNOME. I've filed a bug report about this: "vsync broken Intel HD "Haswell" graphics running on Haswell after fullscreen on secondary monitors" https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=741376 Is this a known issue and are there any workarounds? Thank you! Best, AlexGS

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[Fwd: Your message to gnome-sig awaits moderator approval]
by Michael Catanzaro 12 Dec '14

12 Dec '14

Hi, The gnome-sig mailing list should probably always accept posts regarding package updates from nonmembers. To where should I report this bug? (P.S. Anyone want to add me to the SIG?)

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F21: thank you!
by Jiri Eischmann 11 Dec '14

11 Dec '14

Hi, I'd like to thank everyone who helped make the first release of Workstation happen. Someone who was brave enough to check the Fedora devel list in the last couple of days must come to a conclusion that things have gone the wrong direction with Workstation, but the feedback I have been receiving from users is by far the most positive since I've been around Fedora and that has already been a couple of years. Keep up the good work! Jiri

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Thoughts about Fedora 21 Desktop
by Peter Laursen 10 Dec '14

10 Dec '14

I am primarily a Windows user (was happy with XP and Wn7 - but am not with Win8!). In addition to that I have been using SuSE/OpenSuSE since version 10.0. I need to test some software running in Wine as part of my job. I find some shortcomings in Fedora 21 Desktop that makes it not fully qualifying as a full Desktop version. There are not enough GUI options for system's management for a GUI oriented userr - like Windows 'Control Panel' and SuSE's "YaST" GUI. I realize that this is probably too late for the 21 GA realese - but here are my points: 1) I think *deifnitely* that the "Yum Extender" software management GUI should be included in the Desktop version as default. I was not aware of this interface untill someone in Virtualbox Forums pointed my attention to it. 2) The (human) user created during installation should be added to sudo'ers list automatically. I cannot think of any other Desktop oriented distro that does not. If you are not a *Fedora hawk* , hs no experience with Linux, this is actually somewhat non-trivial. .. 3) And please consider GUI options for user management, service/daemon management etc. as priorities for future developments in order to develop Fedora into a fully Desktop oriented distro (use YaST as inspiration, for instance). Please consider this a positive feedback. -- Hilsen / Regards Peter Laursen

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Gnome/classical disabled
by Peter Laursen 09 Dec '14

09 Dec '14

I upgraded to Fedora 21 GA/final. With the beta/RC I used the Gnome/classical desktop. I just wanted to login once to the new Gnome desktop to see if it had changed as compared to the beta/RC. After doing so I don't have the option to use the classical Gnome desktop anymore. Is this intentional? If so I hope that an xfce build will be available soon. I have no interest in anything else in the Desktop interface than what provides me quick acces to the programs I have installed (and grouped by categories). The new Gnome desktop does not and my installed programs are spread over 5½ pages/screens here. But maybe what was the intention was to disable the Wayland option (since it did not work) and the classical Gnome interface was also disabled in the process and by mistake? -- Hilsen / Regards Peter Laursen

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GNOME features in Fedora 22 Workstation
by Ryan Lerch 09 Dec '14

09 Dec '14

Is there a basic list of the user-facing changes that are currently being worked on / completed for the GNOME that we are going to ship in the Fedora 22 Workstation? This would be super useful to focus our efforts here for what we want to focus on for Fedora 22. My two cents for areas to work in the interface (just from my experience with fedora 21) would be: * Notifications and the notifications area, and * The overview. Adding some more powerful actions to the search would fit well with the developer focus of the workstation. Some things like being able to filter open windows with a text search, providing more search results from the search providiers (on my laptop, i only get 3.5 results on the screen before i have to scroll), and being able to specify a search provider explicitly when searching, if i am looking for a file, i really don't want to see software matches, items from the control center, etc. cheers, ryanlerch

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TokuDB plugin missing from MariaDB
by Peter Laursen 08 Dec '14

08 Dec '14

Fedora 21 Desktop. I have installed MariaDB (10.0.14) with yum from Fedoara repositories. It runs fine - but the TokuDB storage engine is not available .... cd /usr/lib64/mysql/plugin [root@localhost plugin]# ls adt_null.so ha_innodb.so mysql_clear_password.so auth_0x0100.so handlersocket.so qa_auth_client.so auth_pam.so ha_sequence.so qa_auth_interface.so auth_socket.so ha_sphinx.so qa_auth_server.so auth_test_plugin.so ha_spider.so query_cache_info.so daemon_example.ini ha_test_sql_discovery.so query_response_time.so dialog_examples.so libdaemon_example.so semisync_master.so dialog.so locales.so semisync_slave.so ha_connect.so metadata_lock_info.so server_audit.so ha_example.so mypluglib.so sql_errlog.so [root@localhost plugin]# .. no ha_tokudb.so file there Also after adding the line "INSTALL SONAME 'ha_tokudb'" to /etc/my.cnf.d/server.cnf, the server will not start. I think you simply overlooked the--"with_tokudb" configure option when building? TokuDB is really an exitng and important storage engine in recent MariaDB servers and should be available. If I am right please provide an upgrade to 10.0.15 soon with the TokuDB storage engine available. This mailbox may not be the right one to report this. But this is the option I have. In that case @somebody .. please forward to proper list (and sorry for inconvenience caused). -- Hilsen / Regards Peter Laursen

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Fedora 21 talking points - Workstation product?
by Truong Anh Tuan 08 Dec '14

08 Dec '14

Hi folks, You know, Fedora 21 is coming shortly. I have no idea who is responsible for writing Talking points for Fedora 21 Workstation [1] so I would like to open this thread to remind you. This wiki could help a lot to Ambassadors to talk about the new Fedora. Kind regards, Tuan [1] https://fedorahosted.org/marketing-team/ticket/176

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ctrl-c / ctrl-v in terminals: Elementary 'dynamic' approach?
by Adam Williamson 06 Dec '14

06 Dec '14

I just happened to spot this post from Elementary on G+, which seemed like an interesting take on the question of ctrl-c / ctrl-v behaviour in terminals: https://plus.google.com/u/0/+DanielFor%C3%A9/posts/PhtmZQs98vW it doesn't do anything for ctrl-v, but it seems like an interesting approach. Any thoughts on steal^V^V^V^V^Vadopting it for GNOME? -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | XMPP: adamw AT happyassassin . net http://www.happyassassin.net

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