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List of Qt/Qt5 packages for Fedora WS
by Lukáš Tinkl 29 Aug '14

29 Aug '14

Hi, based on request of cschaller, I'm sending the proposed list of Qt/Qt5 packages to be included in Fedora Workstation: qt qt-x11 qt-settings qt5-qtbase qt5-qtimageformats qt5-qtsvg qt5-qtx11extras qt5-qtxmlpatterns qt5-qtdeclarative qt5-qtquickcontrols qt5-qtdoc qt5-qtconnectivity qt5-qtmultimedia qt5-qtgraphicaleffects (you can see the dep chain of qt5 packages here: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/KDE_updates) -- Lukáš Tinkl <ltinkl(a)redhat.com> Senior Software Engineer - KDE desktop team, Brno KDE developer <lukas(a)kde.org> Red Hat Inc. http://cz.redhat.com

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[PATCH] Add Keywords to .desktop to improve software searchability
by Paul W. Frields 29 Aug '14

29 Aug '14

--- config/firewall-config.desktop.in | 1 + 1 file changed, 1 insertion(+) diff --git a/config/firewall-config.desktop.in b/config/firewall-config.desktop.in index 794d8e9..ee9108b 100644 --- a/config/firewall-config.desktop.in +++ b/config/firewall-config.desktop.in @@ -3,6 +3,7 @@ _Name=Firewall _Comment=Firewall Configuration Icon=firewall-config Categories=System;Settings;Security; +Keywords=firewall;network;security;iptables;netfilter Exec=/usr/bin/firewall-config Type=Application StartupNotify=true -- 1.9.3

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Default Empty Document template?
by Michael Catanzaro 29 Aug '14

29 Aug '14

Hi all, The first thing I do after installing Fedora is open gedit and save an empty file named Empty Document into ~/Templates. This is the magic incantation required to add a context menu entry to nautilus for creating new files. Not many users will be able to figure this out, but it seems like something that many will want. I propose adding it to /etc/skel so that it gets created by default for new users. Thoughts? Michael

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Workstation Abridged Meeting Minutes 2014-08-27
by Josh Boyer 27 Aug '14

27 Aug '14

Hi All, Below are some abridged meeting minutes from today's meeting. Due to Freenode netsplitting several times, there are fragments of conversation in the logs and it was a very confusing meeting overall. While this wasn't any fault of the WG's or Fedora, we do apologize and hopefully next week will come together better. We did manage, however briefly, to come together to agree on adopting the proposed guidelines for Apps and Launchers for Workstation. For now these are Workstation specific an used as guidelines for picking default apps. There is a strong desire to see how much commonality can be found across the project for this, so I'll start a separate thread to kick off that discussion. If anyone has any questions, please let us know. We'll be doing an out-of-cycle meeting next Wednesday at the same time and place to address some of the other items. In the meantime, we will be discussing the higher priority issues on the list. josh =========================================== #fedora-meeting: Fedora Workstation Meeting =========================================== Meeting started by jwb at 15:00:18 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2014-08-27/workstation.2014… . Meeting summary --------------- * init (jwb, 15:00:19) * Apps and Launchers Guidelines (jwb, 15:03:49) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Elad/Draft_app_guidelines (jwb, 15:04:13) * LINK: https://people.gnome.org/~tobiasmue/hig3/icons-and-artwork.html#application… (aday, 15:17:54) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1131248 -- bug concerning some issues on java packages (stickster, 15:18:29) * AGREED: adopt guidelines for Workstation (jwb, 15:46:33) * jwb to start discussion with other products/WGs (jwb, 15:46:48) Meeting ended at 15:49:07 UTC. Action Items ------------ Action Items, by person ----------------------- * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * elad661 (61) * jwb (58) * cwickert (39) * cschalle (29) * kalev (17) * stickster (14) * juhp_ (14) * mclasen (12) * aday (9) * drago01 (9) * otaylor (8) * zodbot (6) * mclasen_ (2) * sgallagh (2) * nirik (1) * hadess (1) * ryanlerch (0) * juhp (0) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot

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Workstation WG meeting 2014-09-03
by Josh Boyer 27 Aug '14

27 Aug '14

Hi All, Just a reminder that we'll be meeting again on #fedora-meeting at 15:00 UTC next Wednesday 2014-09-03. I'll have an agenda sent the day before again. In the meantime, please follow up on the firewall-config and netinstall threads on-list. We'll likely need to get consensus there for those as they are impacting Alpha. josh

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Maybe it's time to say goodbye to start.fedoraproject.org?
by Elad Alfassa 27 Aug '14

27 Aug '14

Hello Websites and Desktop lists. I think it's time we drop our usage of start.fedoraproject.org as the default start page for Firefox in Fedora and simply use the firefox about:home page as the default starting page for the browser. What do you think? Generally, the start page was designed to somehow be a gateway for Fedora to encourage people to participate and contribute. But I'm not sure if it really works. Reasons why I think it's time for this page to go: * We got numerous of complaints about inappropriate planet fedora posts that appeared there. Having contributor-generated content in the start page seems like a bad idea in hindsight. Most of the Planet posts are also not very relevant (or inviting) for people who are not already part of the community. * The design is a bit too simplistic, yet since the current design was introduced nobody had the time/energy/will to think of / implement anything better. To be frank, it's kinda ugly - and I think I'm allowed to say this because I'm the one who implemented (and if I recall correctly, also "designed" it). * Our "main goal" used to be "gaining contributors" and getting people involved with the project. While this goal still remains intact, it's no longer our main driving force (at least for the Wrokstation product), but rather "build the best OS for software developers" - as such it would be better if the start page would be actually *usable* for our target audience. Gaining contributors remains a goal, but it shouldn't affect our UI/UX decisions. fwiw it's not the first time I've suggested the removal of this page. I want input on this from both Desktop and Websites before I file a bug for the Firefox package to drop this default. Of course we will have to have start.fedoraproject.org online still for at least another cycle, because people might still have it as their homepage (I've seen a few, they don't really look at the page and just go to the address bar directly). We could, for example, replace it with some sort of "contributor hub" page with resources, workflows and practical guides on how to get involved for new contributors (ie. reuse the start.fpo name, *not* use a contributor hub as a homepage) but I don't know if anyone has the time, energy and will to implement and maintain such thing. -- -Elad Alfassa.

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Re: Maybe it's time to say goodbye to start.fedoraproject.org?
by Máirín Duffy 27 Aug '14

27 Aug '14

On 08/27/2014 11:16 AM, Chaoyi Zha wrote: > Perhaps, can you get rid of the clutter around the sides, and just > have one, primary, emphasized point? Kind of like Firefox and Google's > homepages. The primary emphasis is on the updated content stream that (normally) is geared towards users. The very top of the page has a bar with what Elad and I distilled into the three most important links for new users - docs, help, and Fedora mag (the full site.) > One point that we would like to get across to the user. If > I had any experience in design, I would put a search box, A search box that searches what? That goes where? The default browser has a search box built into the interface via both the URL bar and the search bar in the upper right, both search the web... > a support > link, There's a large one in the top center of the screen, "Help for Fedora Users." Should the link be phrased differently do you you? Maybe "Support" instead of "Help" ? Is the emphasis with the icon and bright blue not enough? > a small box with "Updates", and some other useful links in a > third box. That's the purpose the Fedora Magazine news feed is supposed to serve (if you mean news & updates type of updates.) Or do you mean updates, as in software updates? > However, I would emphasize a single point in the centre of > the page, so that it appears less cluttered. Emphasis, again, is on the news feed in the center of the page. We could de-emphasize that and emphasize the top 3-item nav bar more? > > Just some thoughts. There doesn't seem to be any FOSS search engines, > so my vision probably won't be able to be realized. I don't have much > design experience, so these are just suggestions from an untrained > eye. :) Thank you; I appreciate the psecific feedback. ~m

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Re: Maybe it's time to say goodbye to start.fedoraproject.org?
by Máirín Duffy 27 Aug '14

27 Aug '14

On 08/27/2014 10:43 AM, Chaoyi Zha wrote: > Looks pretty. I like the design, but perhaps we can make it a little > more useful? The blog entries in the middle and some of the other blocks > clutter the page quite a bit. Can you make it more minimalistic, so that > people will keep it as their homepage? We are open to suggestions, of course. "make it more minimalistic" isn't actionable. Can you be more specific? ~m

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Workstation Meeting 27-08-2014 Agenda
by Josh Boyer 27 Aug '14

27 Aug '14

Hi All, Below is the meeting agenda for tomorrow. I know there are more things likely to be discussed, but we only have an hour set aside for this meeting. Let's see if we can get some of these decided and pick up on the rest in the next meeting. With that said, if there is something you think is more important than one of these topics, please let me know. * Apps and Launchers guidelines - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Elad/Draft_app_guidelines * firewalld-config installed by default or not * Default image viewer - shotwell - eog - gthumb * net-install for Alpha? * Task list review josh

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Re: Proposal for every WG to send a short summary *to other WGs directly*
by Kevin Fenzi 26 Aug '14

26 Aug '14

On Tue, 26 Aug 2014 16:46:40 +0200 Honza Horak <hhorak(a)redhat.com> wrote: ...snip... I'm not against each group doing a summary, but as noted by Josh, sometimes the summaries are very repetitive ( ...still working on implemeting roles... etc) > List of proposed MLs to send this summary to: > server(a)lists.fedoraproject.org > desktop(a)lists.fedoraproject.org > cloud(a)lists.fedoraproject.org > env-and-stacks(a)lists.fedoraproject.org > devel(a)lists.fedoraproject.org This is turning into my new pet peeve. ;) Cross posting to bunches of lists is not a good idea, IMHO. * It means the person posting the summary has to be subscribed to every single list they are sending to. * It means if anyone hits reply to all they have to be subscribed to every single list or deal with rejections/bounces/moderation. I think the best thing would be to mail just one list: devel. Failing that, I think the best way we can do cross posting right now is for people to send seperate copies of an email to each list they want to post to, follow discussion on all those lists, and then do another sum up post if there's important feedback from only one list. > Comments, ideas or better solutions are welcome as usually, but I > might be offline until Sunday, so do not expect any answers from me > in that time :) Fair enough. kevin

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