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Some suggestions for Marketing notes for FW 21
by Christian Schaller 22 Sep '14

22 Sep '14

Hi everyone, Here are some draft notes I prepared to try to help our marketing team build up some release notes and press material on the Fedora Workstation release. Already sent it to the Working Group members, but I thought I send it out to these two lists for further review and suggestions. Christian -------------------- Fedora Workstation Marketing The Fedora Workstation is a new take on desktop development from the Fedora Community. Instead of seeing ourselves primarily as passive packagers of any software we manage to find we are now instead picking the best components out there and doing a lot of of work to integrate and polish them, presenting you with something you will feel is a much more polished and targeted product than what you seen before from the Fedora community. We want our desktop operating system to solve your problems, not be your problem. Easy access to all your Software The cornerstone of the Fedora Workstation is our Software installer application, or our appstore if you like.. It provides a modern and fast interface for finding all any kind of desktop software for your Fedora Workstation. In Fedora 21 we are using the new hawkeye backend which will ensure a responsive and fast user experience and our packagers have worked ardently with the relevant upstreams to greatly improve the amount of applications that provide the needed information to populate the Software installer. Improvements to the Terminal application We want to make sure developers have a great experience and we do know that a strong terminal application is a core part of that. Due to this we have worked to integrate a set of new features in the terminal like support for transparent backgrounds, automatic title updates which will make identifying different terminals easier, allow you do easily toggle all system keybindings on and off in the terminal and in the GNOME desktop overview you can search for terminal running processes by name. Experimental Wayland Support We have a usable Wayland session available in Fedora Workstation 21. Wayland is the new and exciting technology that will power the linux desktops going forward. With Fedora Workstation 21 we offer you a unique opportunity to trial this technology and see how well your applications work with it or to start experimenting with making your applications take advantage of some of the new abilities Wayland will enable. A lot of the core Wayland development has been done by Fedora Workstation contributors so this is your chance to try out this new exciting technology straight from the source. Developer Assistant As a developer we recognize that you need to be able to set up a host of different development environments in an easy and straightforward manner. In Fedora Workstation we offer the Developer Assistant to help with this task. With the aid of the Developer Assistant you can quickly set up development environments for a long range of language runtimes and IDEs. And thanks to its integration of the new Fedora Software Collections multiple versions of the different languages are available to fit with your business requirements. Ease of installation We want the installation of the Fedora Workstation to be as straightforward and simple as possible. For the Fedora Workstation we have distilled this down to selecting the layout of your physical media and then pressing install. Or if you want it even easier just let the installer choose the disk layout for you. We also realize that the future of installations is not optical disks which is why we ship with an easy to use tool for creating a bootable USB stick. Toolkit integration You have a job to do and want to use whatever tools that let you get that job done. The Fedora Workstation recognize that which is why we have been hard at work making sure that applications using as many toolkits as possible feel as native as possible in your Fedora Workstation. Be that the new themeing for Qt which makes applications written using that toolkit feel native or the ability to run HTML5 webservices in a chromeless window, making them feel like a natural extension to your desktop. HiDPI Support Technology never stands still and as a software developer you are used to using the best technology available. Which is why we have spent a lot of time and effort on making sure that we support the new generation of HiDPI displays well. Phoronix recently called our desktop the best of HiDPI. Exciting roadmap This Fedora Workstaiton release is not the end, it is the beginning of a new era for Fedora on the desktop. We have an exciting roadmap lined up aiming to bring a range of exciting new technologies to the linux desktop like containers, smarter virtual machines, better development tools, more web integration and so on. So if you want to be part of the future of the linux desktop be sure to get on board now!

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Minimize/maximize buttons
by Michael Catanzaro 20 Sep '14

20 Sep '14

Hi all, Every app with a header bar on the F21 live CD has minimize and maximize buttons. This seems unintentional. I'm not sure where to file a bug; anyone know which component is at fault? Michael

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Do we really need LibreOffice installed by default?
by Elad Alfassa 19 Sep '14

19 Sep '14

Hello all. If we don't install libreoffice by default we'd save around ~500MB (of libreoffice itself and it's various java dependencies) from the live media. This means less strain on mirrors, and that people will get their media faster (even if you have a really fast connection - smaller downloads finish sooner). Also, since we have an application installer these days, people who need an office suite can easily install it. I suggest we remove it from the default install. -- -Elad Alfassa.

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Appdata coverage update
by Ryan Lerch 18 Sep '14

18 Sep '14

Just a quick update on the current coverage status for appdata in Fedora 21. We are currently sitting at 36.9% [1] of applications that have an appdata file with a description. However, we do have a bunch of appdata files that have been created in seperate branches that have not been merged yet (just waiting for a few more in the list of games we are targeting [2]), that should get this number up near 47% coverage in the next week or so. cheers, ryanlerch [1] - http://alt.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/screenshots/f21/status.html [2] - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Workstation/AppdataImprovement/Games#How_to_…

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tested KDE in Fedora Workstation 21 alpha rc1
by Jens-Ulrik Petersen 18 Sep '14

18 Sep '14

Hi, Following up to my action item from last week's WG meeting, I installed KDE into a Workstation install (using "yum install @kde-desktop"). The installation went fine and the KDE desktop seems to be working well (I tested with an Fedora Workstation 21 Alpha RC1 netinstall done yesterday). I went through the Fedora i18n Test Day testcases on KDE. BTW I did the original WS net install in a 1.5 GB x86_64 guest (which took about 2 hours). KDE seemed to hang a few times for me initially, but I didn't see any more hangs after changing the guest to use 2GB FWIW. I am not an expert KDE user so there are surely plenty of KDE areas I haven't tested: so more testing by the KDE SIG, QA, and the community is of course most welcome. Jens

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F21 Workstation System Requirements - i686
by Chris Murphy 17 Sep '14

17 Sep '14

Will/should there be separate or slightly more qualified requirements for i686? Either hardware 3D support, or an age bracket? I ask because I dug out a 10 year old Dell laptop from storage and it meets the current requirements: 2GB RAM, 60GB drive, 1.7GHz CPU. But with AMD RV250/M9 GL FireGL 9000/Radeon 9000, the journal reports: gnome-session-is-accelerated: No hardware 3D support. While gdm comes up, gnome-shell crashes (this is TC6). With my QA hat on, I'd say if it worked, I'd use it against some of the test cases; the fact it doesn't and i686 is (probably?) going away soon anyway makes me think "if it works, bonus; if it doesn't, give up while you still can" sort of attitude. Chris Murphy

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New look for Anaconda?
by Jiri Eischmann 17 Sep '14

17 Sep '14

Hi, I wonder if there are any plans to improve the look of Anaconda for F21 Workstation. In the state it is now it doesn't look very professional and I would even say that the Fedora "logo" in the left blue pane violates the Fedora logo usage guidelines. Anaconda in RHEL 7 looks much better, like something that is finished. It'd be great if we could achieve something similar in Fedora Workstation, just aligned with the design and colors of the workstation product. Jiri

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qt theming status
by Matthias Clasen 17 Sep '14

17 Sep '14

I took the action last week to find out the status of our qt theming task. Here is what I found out: Martin, who is working on this, has a copr with his work-in-progress here: http://copr.fedoraproject.org/coprs/mbriza/qt-gtk/ I haven't been able to try this with a qt app yet, maybe somebody else has more luck than me. Martin is not sure if his work will be complete enough to be useful in time for F21.

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Fedora 21 Alpha RC testing request
by Adam Williamson 16 Sep '14

16 Sep '14

Hi, folks! In case anyone didn't see it elsewhere, we put 21 Alpha RC1 out for testing today. It still has some kinks, but we really need to make sure we have a reasonably complete test run on it and catch any remaining blockers. If folks could help test particularly in their own areas of interest, that'd be great. The images can be found at https://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/stage/21_Alpha_RC1/ - it's a fairly big tree and the folder layout is still a bit of a work-in-progress, sorry if you have to click around until you find something. The test pages are: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_21_Alpha_RC1_Install https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_21_Alpha_RC1_Base https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_21_Alpha_RC1_Desktop https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_21_Alpha_RC1_Server to test, basically, pick a test case from (one of) the table(s), run it, and edit your result into the appropriate table cell using the {{result}} macro - short version, {{result|pass|adamwill}} is a pass, {{result|warn|adamwill|123456}} is a warning (aka the compromise between 'pass' and 'fail' - use it for things that aren't exactly critical fails but are worth noting), and {{result|fail|adamwill|654321}} is a failure. The number should be a Bugzilla bug #. Please file bugs for failures; if the bug's serious, propose it as a release blocker by setting it to block the bug 'AlphaBlocker' or using the blocker bug webapp at https://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/propose_bug . Each test case has a link to the release criteria that it enforces at the top - you can refer to this in proposing the blocker. But please err on the side of nominating bugs as blockers, we'd rather have a few to reject than miss one we should have blocked for. Rejections do not go on your permanent record :) The test cases have milestones listed alongside them in the tables. Do the tests marked 'Alpha' first, then the ones marked 'Beta', then the ones marked 'Final', and the ones with no milestone come last (these are optional tests that aren't usually expected to encounter release blocking issues). Later composes may follow - please do help test those too. We need to run all the Alpha tests against at least one of the release composes (ideally we'd run them all against all the RCs). Thanks a lot folks! -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | XMPP: adamw AT happyassassin . net http://www.happyassassin.net

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The upgrade story
by Rahul Sundaram 16 Sep '14

16 Sep '14

Hi What is the plan for supporting upgrades from one release to another? fedup still doesn't have a GUI and GNOME Software doesn't seem to have any integration for prompting users to perform the upgrade when a new release is available. Rahul

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