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[Fedocal] Reminder meeting : Workstation WG
by stickster＠gmail.com 31 Jul '17

31 Jul '17

Dear all, You are kindly invited to the meeting: Workstation WG on 2017-07-31 from 09:00:00 to 10:00:00 America/New_York At fedora-meeting-2(a)irc.freenode.net The meeting will be about: Regular meeting for the Workstation Working Group. Agenda: [https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issues?status=Open&tags=meeting](https… More information available at: [https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Workstation](https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/… Source: https://apps.fedoraproject.org/calendar/meeting/6331/

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Fedora 26 is missing GNOME Recipes
by rugk 18 Jul '17

18 Jul '17

…and I too. :) In the release blog post of GNOME v3.24, the recipes application was promised: > This release also includes a new Recipes application, which contains recipes contributed by members of the GNOME community. It has an extensive set of features for adding and editing recipes, creating shopping lists, adjusting quantities and even has a hands-free cooking mode. https://www.gnome.org/news/2017/03/gnome-3-24-released/ Now, Fedora 26 is using v 3.24, but this application is not there? This should be fixed until the final Fedora 26 release as, well…, it has been promised. And breaking promises is not good. It makes users sad… ;) Originially raised in https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1462008, where Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek also commented: > I think it would be a shame not to package it in time for F26 final. I agree… so could someone help here? Best regards, rugk

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Hello! Prices are awesome.
by Kevin＠fedoraproject.org 17 Jul '17

17 Jul '17

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Good afternoon! Medication delivery. Prices are amazing.
by Kevin＠fedoraproject.org 17 Jul '17

17 Jul '17

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Workstation WG meeting recap 2017-Jul-17
by Paul W. Frields 17 Jul '17

17 Jul '17

Minutes: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2017-07-17/workstation.2… Minutes (text): https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2017-07-17/workstation.2… Log: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2017-07-17/workstation.2… * * * ================================= #fedora-meeting-2: Workstation WG ================================= Meeting started by stickster at 13:00:36 UTC. The full logs are available at https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2017-07-17/workstation.2… . Meeting summary --------------- * Roll call (stickster, 13:00:43) * LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issues?status=Open&tags=meeting (stickster, 13:05:57) * Initial setup redundancy (stickster, 13:06:26) * LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/21 (stickster, 13:06:55) * ACTION: mcatanzaro get in touch with anaconda devs in some mutually happy venue to discuss proposed setup changes (stickster, 13:18:25) * ACTION: stickster get with anaconda-devel-list owners and make sure their lost password is resolved (stickster, 13:19:03) * ACTION: ryanlerch look into anaconda banner situation, who's working on it now (stickster, 13:24:15) * F26 retrospective (stickster, 13:24:30) * LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/22 (stickster, 13:24:33) * LINK: https://pdc.fedoraproject.org/rest_api/v1/releases/ (stickster, 13:29:49) * LINK: https://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-software/tree/plugins/fedora-pkgdb-colle… has the strings (kalev, 13:38:28) * AGREED: change g-software upgrade text to "Upgrade your Fedora system to the latest features and improvements." (stickster, 13:48:39) * ACTION: kalev get new string into g-software (stickster, 13:51:28) * ACTION: stickster consult on X*Y image location and dimensions needed for retrieval in g-software, ask Design team to add to their wallpaper SOP (stickster, 13:52:18) * ACTION: kalev ensure that PDC API is the right place to retrieve release info for g-software and make appropriate changes (stickster, 13:53:09) * All other business (open floor) (stickster, 13:56:20) * stickster hooked up our #fedora-workstation IRC channel with fedmsgs from Pagure last week (stickster, 13:57:12) * LINK: https://infrastructure.fedoraproject.org/cgit/ansible.git/commit/?id=2e51c4… (stickster, 13:57:16) Meeting ended at 14:02:56 UTC. Action Items ------------ * mcatanzaro get in touch with anaconda devs in some mutually happy venue to discuss proposed setup changes * stickster get with anaconda-devel-list owners and make sure their lost password is resolved * ryanlerch look into anaconda banner situation, who's working on it now * kalev get new string into g-software * stickster consult on X*Y image location and dimensions needed for retrieval in g-software, ask Design team to add to their wallpaper SOP * kalev ensure that PDC API is the right place to retrieve release info for g-software and make appropriate changes Action Items, by person ----------------------- * kalev * kalev get new string into g-software * kalev ensure that PDC API is the right place to retrieve release info for g-software and make appropriate changes * mcatanzaro * mcatanzaro get in touch with anaconda devs in some mutually happy venue to discuss proposed setup changes * ryanlerch * ryanlerch look into anaconda banner situation, who's working on it now * stickster * stickster get with anaconda-devel-list owners and make sure their lost password is resolved * stickster consult on X*Y image location and dimensions needed for retrieval in g-software, ask Design team to add to their wallpaper SOP * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * stickster (119) * kalev (31) * juhp_ (30) * mcatanzaro (28) * ryanlerch (25) * zodbot (18) * otaylor (0) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ The open source story continues to grow: http://opensource.com

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[Fedocal] Reminder meeting : Workstation WG
by stickster＠gmail.com 15 Jul '17

15 Jul '17

Dear all, You are kindly invited to the meeting: Workstation WG on 2017-07-17 from 09:00:00 to 10:00:00 America/New_York At fedora-meeting-2(a)irc.freenode.net The meeting will be about: Regular meeting for the Workstation Working Group. Agenda: [https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issues?status=Open&tags=meeting](https… More information available at: [https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Workstation](https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/… Source: https://apps.fedoraproject.org/calendar/meeting/6331/

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Initial setup redundancy
by mcatanzaro＠gnome.org 10 Jul '17

10 Jul '17

Hi, As discussed at today's WG meeting, I've prepared a draft change page for reducing initial setup redundancy: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/ReduceInitialSetupRedundancy I'm going to send a heads-up to the Anaconda developers now (though I don't plan to join their mailing list, so hopefully they have an active list moderator). And then we will no doubt have a discussion when the change is announced on devel@. Ideally I would have prepared this earlier and had time to run it by the Anaconda developers *before* submitting, but the change proposal deadline is tomorrow, so I'm going to submit it now, even though I haven't had any feedback on it beyond approval of the general idea from the Workstation WG. Sorry for the very short notice and for delaying too long. Everything is subject to change and nothing is set in stone. Michael

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Fedora Visual identity
by Ryan Lerch 10 Jul '17

10 Jul '17

As discussed in the meeting today, I have put together the draft Change Page for the Fedora Visual Identity: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/VisualIdentity The content is pretty much a placeholder, as nothing concrete has been approved on this by the WG, but just filing the feature page today, before the deadline. cheers, ryanlerch

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Some performance criticisms of F25
by Michael Catanzaro 09 Jul '17

09 Jul '17

Hi, Jiri found this review (among many) of Fedora 25: http://www.hecticgeek.com/2016/12/fedora-25-review/ It includes a couple recommendations: * We should restore systemd-readahead to speed boot time by ~30% for users without SSDs. Endless has a downstream patch for this. Or we could use Ubuntu's readahead utility. * We should switch from CFQ to deadline I/O scheduler (which Ubuntu has been using for years) for subjective massive responsiveness improvements when the system is under load Of these, the later seems easier to change and more important. Anyone know why we're still using CFQ? If the answer is "it's better for servers" then perhaps we need a mechanism to adjust this on a per- product basis. Just wanted to put these issues back on the radar.... Michael

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[PATCH] ws/ostree: Use atomic product img
by Colin Walters 04 Jul '17

04 Jul '17

The actual PR is posted in: https://pagure.io/pungi-fedora/pull-request/257 This is only for: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/WorkstationOstree The primary reason to do this is that the blivet defaults break with ostree, since `/home` needs to be `/var/home` with ostree. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1382873 But bigger picture than that, having a split `/home` makes less sense using rpm-ostree, because the primary original rationale for introducing that split was to make upgrades easier by reinstalling but preserving `/home`. With rpm-ostree upgrades should be much more reliable and easier. We also to use XFS (as opposed to the blivet ext4 default) for the same reason as Atomic/Server - it works better with overlay2 because it avoids inode limits. And not using all of the disk makes it easier to do more advanced partitioning *post* installation. For example, in the past I've used dm-crypt for the OS and `/home`, but not for `/srv` where I put non-private data like my git repositories. (Although I recently switched back to dm-crypt for everything for simplicity). Another good example of this is that `container-storage-setup` supports allocating a separate LV for `/var/lib/docker`, so container storage is isolated from the host. Anaconda is making it easier to do arbitrary partitioning in the installer via blivet-gui, but I think doing it post-install is more flexible. One can use scripts as well (e.g. Ansible). The flip side of course is that users are going to wonder why they only have `14G` of space...we should likely teach the installer to have a simple "use all of my disk" button, and also have one post-install (something like Nautilus launching `Disks` with awareness of LVM)? Signed-off-by: Colin Walters <walters(a)verbum.org> --- fedora.conf | 2 +- 1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-) diff --git a/fedora.conf b/fedora.conf index a7d403b..edc3586 100644 --- a/fedora.conf +++ b/fedora.conf @@ -812,7 +812,7 @@ ostree_installer = [ "x86_64": { "repo": "Everything", "release": None, - "installpkgs": ["fedora-productimg-workstation"], + "installpkgs": ["fedora-productimg-atomic"], "rootfs_size": "8", "add_template": ["workstation-ostree-installer/lorax-configure-repo.tmpl", "workstation-ostree-installer/lorax-embed-repo.tmpl"], -- 2.9.4

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