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Fedora Workstation feature proposal: Tray icons
by Daniel Rusek 05 Dec '19

05 Dec '19

Hello, I would like to propose a RFE for Fedora Workstation. I think what Fedora Workstation, or GNOME in general, really misses is some support for tray icons. There are many applications that do not work properly when having no tray icon. Nowadays, tray icons are mostly implemented using an AppIndicator standard made by Canonical and supported in GNOME using the "KStatusNotifierItem/AppIndicator Support" Shell Extension also made by Canonical and packaged in Fedora as gnome-shell-extension-appindicator. This extension is preinstalled out-of-box in Ubuntu. In KDE, AppIndicators are supported out-of-box. Is there a place I could send a RFE to add the gnome-shell-extension-appindicator package to base Fedora Workstation installation or is this e-mail sufficient? No out-of-box support for tray icons is a big minus for Fedora in my opinion. Thanks! Regards, Daniel Rusek

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2019-11-25 @ 14:00 UTC - Fedora Workstation WG Meeting - Minutes
by Chris Murphy 25 Nov '19

25 Nov '19

Minutes: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2019-11-25/workstation.2… Minutes (text): https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2019-11-25/workstation.2… Log: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2019-11-25/workstation.2…

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bug, gnome-software is recommending non-free software
by Chris Murphy 24 Nov '19

24 Nov '19

Stumbled upon this bug report and I'm not sure how to respond to it; and whether it relates to https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/108 Bug 1769967 - gnome-software is recommending non-free software with large colourful banners https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1769967 I don't know what the UI looks like to get into this situation. But for sure I have no way of knowing, or inferring, that merely enabling Flathub as a repository means I'm also wanting proprietary software to be recommended by GNOME Software. I don't even totally feel comfortable showing proprietary software in searches, just because the user enabled a repo that contains some non-free software, something they have no way of knowing in advance. GNOME Software -> Preferences ( ) Show proprietary (non-free) software in searches ( ) Promote proprietary (non-free) software Or perhaps even simpler, but it lumps in two the passive (search) and the active (featured) presentation of proprietary software: ( X ) Do not show proprietary software The above show my expected defaults in Fedora Workstation. Is there a way to filter flathub applications based on free/non-free? And only show free by default? -- Chris Murphy

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[Fedocal] Reminder meeting : Workstation WG
by catanzaro＠fedoraproject.org 24 Nov '19

24 Nov '19

Dear all, You are kindly invited to the meeting: Workstation WG on 2019-11-25 from 09:00:00 to 10:00:00 US/Eastern At fedora-meeting-2(a)irc.freenode.net The meeting will be about: Regular meeting for the Workstation Working Group. Agenda: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issues?status=Open&tags=meeting Chair: * Sep 30 - Michael Catanzaro * Oct 14 - Matthias Clasen * Oct 28 - Allan Day * Nov 4 - Neal Gompa * Nov 11 - No meeting - Veteran's Day * Nov 18 - Kalev Lember * Nov 25 - Chris Murphy * Dec 2 - Jens Petersen * Dec 9 - Christian Schaller * Dec 16 - Owen Taylor * Dec 23 - No meeting * Dec 30 - No meeting * Jan 6 - Langdon White More information available at: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Workstation Source: https://apps.fedoraproject.org/calendar/meeting/9650/

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Initial F31 flatpak runtime and further plans
by Kalev Lember 23 Nov '19

23 Nov '19

Hi all, I've built an initial version of F31 flatpak runtime and SDK, and built a set of GNOME flatpaks against it. At the same time, I've also updated them to 3.34.x. I'll build more of the apps against F31 runtime in the coming days. Right now the set of apps include: org.gnome.Baobab org.gnome.Calculator org.gnome.Calendar org.gnome.Characters org.gnome.clocks org.gnome.Contacts org.gnome.eog org.gnome.Evince org.gnome.font-viewer org.gnome.gedit org.gnome.Logs org.gnome.Maps org.gnome.Screenshot org.gnome.Weather This set was chosen for the initial port because this is what we want to preinstall on Silverblue. This should hopefully go stable around the same time as F31 goes live, so people should be able to install 3.34 flatpaks on F31. Karma in Bodhi and testing welcome: https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-FLATPAK-2019-addc7ab077 Right now they are available in the fedora-testing flatpak repository. To enable the remote, 'flatpak remote-modify --enable fedora-testing' or if you don't have the remote for some reasons, then: 'flatpak remote-add fedora-testing oci+https://registry.fedoraproject.org#testing' Thanks, Kalev

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I'd like to give up gnote
by Ankur Sinha 23 Nov '19

23 Nov '19

Hello, I haven't used gnote for a while and would like to give up maintaining it. It is updated as part of the gnome releases anyway---I've not updated it myself in a while. The two other maintainers do not appear to be active. May I transfer it to the gnome-sig and remove myself (instead of the general orphaning process)? -- Thanks, Regards, Ankur Sinha "FranciscoD" (He / Him / His) | https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Ankursinha Time zone: Europe/London

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Workstation WG meeting recap 2019-Nov-18
by Kalev Lember 18 Nov '19

18 Nov '19

================================= #fedora-meeting-2: Workstation WG ================================= Meeting started by kalev at 14:00:52 UTC. The full logs are available at https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2019-11-18/workstation.2… . Meeting summary --------------- * Roll call (kalev, 14:00:57) * table "#84 Automatically install the OpenH264 codecs" and "#105 Ship fedora-workstation-repositories on install media" until we have cschalle (kalev, 14:07:35) * Install nano by default (should we make it the default terminal editor?) (kalev, 14:10:18) * LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/103 (kalev, 14:10:21) * AGREED: Add nano to Workstation default install in addition to vi (without changing $EDITOR) (+1:5, 0:1, -1:1) (kalev, 14:54:57) * AGREED: Proposal to change Workstation $EDITOR to nano does not pass (+1:3, 0:2, -1:1) (kalev, 14:56:03) * AGREED: Workstation WG would like to change Fedora default editor from /usr/bin/vi to /usr/bin/nano (+1:5, 0:1, -1:0) (kalev, 14:57:05) * ACTION: Son_Goku to submit a system wide proposal to change the default installed editor from vi to nano (kalev, 15:00:34) * ACTION: mcatanzaro to add nano to workstation-product comps (mcatanzaro, 15:02:14) Meeting ended at 15:03:36 UTC. Action Items ------------ * Son_Goku to submit a system wide proposal to change the default installed editor from vi to nano * mcatanzaro to add nano to workstation-product comps Action Items, by person ----------------------- * mcatanzaro * mcatanzaro to add nano to workstation-product comps * Son_Goku * Son_Goku to submit a system wide proposal to change the default installed editor from vi to nano * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * kalev (101) * aday (47) * cmurf (39) * juhp[m] (38) * Son_Goku (35) * mcatanzaro (29) * zodbot (18) * otaylor (13) * smooge (1) * petersen (0) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot

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[Fedocal] Reminder meeting : Workstation WG
by catanzaro＠fedoraproject.org 18 Nov '19

18 Nov '19

Dear all, You are kindly invited to the meeting: Workstation WG on 2019-11-18 from 09:00:00 to 10:00:00 US/Eastern At fedora-meeting-2(a)irc.freenode.net The meeting will be about: Regular meeting for the Workstation Working Group. Agenda: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issues?status=Open&tags=meeting Chair: * Sep 30 - Michael Catanzaro * Oct 14 - Matthias Clasen * Oct 28 - Allan Day * Nov 4 - Neal Gompa * Nov 11 - No meeting - Veteran's Day * Nov 18 - Kalev Lember * Nov 25 - Chris Murphy * Dec 2 - Jens Petersen * Dec 9 - Christian Schaller * Dec 16 - Owen Taylor * Dec 23 - No meeting * Dec 30 - No meeting * Jan 6 - Langdon White More information available at: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Workstation Source: https://apps.fedoraproject.org/calendar/meeting/9650/

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flatpak local storage location
by Chris Murphy 06 Nov '19

06 Nov '19

The subject of disk space and flatpaks came up in the most recent workstation meeting, and I'd like to separately discuss that in this thread before creating a flatpak issue. The full log: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/teams/workstation/workstation.2019-10-28-… Excerpts: 13:16:07 <langdon> allocating enough disk if you have your drive sliced up is tough 13:16:36 <Son_Goku> and yeah, the disk space issue is a huge problem ... 13:16:47 <kalev> "the disk space issue" ? 13:16:58 <otaylor> Son_Goku: why would disk space be an issue? flatpaks store data in $HOME ... 13:17:19 <langdon> that's the problem.. normally I have a "games disk" 13:17:27 <Son_Goku> likewise Neither sysroot nor $HOME fits the above use case, where the user wants to store games on a separate volume entirely. And another use case is where it's desirable to use the much larger /home volume storage pool, but permit sharing of apps among users. Could there be a /home/share/flatpak with the appropriate permissions, that meets both use case requirements? Alternatively, Workstation could do what Silverblue does, with /var/home bind mounted to /home - and therefore system and user flatpaks go on the same volume. But there should also be a way to set the default location for flatpak files. Users wanting a games volume could bind mount it to /var/lib/flatpak, but then they need a way to set system as the default location instead of users. -- Chris Murphy

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[Fedocal] Reminder meeting : Workstation WG
by catanzaro＠fedoraproject.org 03 Nov '19

03 Nov '19

Dear all, You are kindly invited to the meeting: Workstation WG on 2019-11-04 from 09:00:00 to 10:00:00 US/Eastern At fedora-meeting-2(a)irc.freenode.net The meeting will be about: Regular meeting for the Workstation Working Group. Agenda: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issues?status=Open&tags=meeting Chair: * Sep 30 - Michael Catanzaro * Oct 14 - Matthias Clasen * Oct 28 - Allan Day * Nov 4 - Neal Gompa * Nov 11 - No meeting - Veteran's Day * Nov 18 - Kalev Lember * Nov 25 - Chris Murphy * Dec 2 - Jens Petersen * Dec 9 - Christian Schaller * Dec 16 - Owen Taylor * Dec 23 - No meeting * Dec 30 - No meeting * Jan 6 - Langdon White More information available at: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Workstation Source: https://apps.fedoraproject.org/calendar/meeting/9550/

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