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Workstation WG meeting recap 2019-Feb-25
by Kalev Lember 13 Mar '19

13 Mar '19

================================= #fedora-meeting-2: Workstation WG ================================= Meeting started by kalev at 14:01:00 UTC. The full logs are available at https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2019-02-25/workstation.2… . Meeting summary --------------- * Roll call (kalev, 14:01:13) * Install gamemode by default? (kalev, 14:05:05) * LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/88 (kalev, 14:05:12) * LINK: https://meetbot-raw.fedoraproject.org/teams/workstation/workstation.2019-02… is the last log that I found (kalev, 14:07:09) * AGREED: Workstation WG agrees to install gamemode by default. While we think the design is fundamentally not ideal, the security implications of allowing the current session to adjust cpu governor and gpu clocking are small. (kalev, 14:22:56) * F30 status (kalev, 14:23:23) * We got first F30 compose last night (kalev, 14:25:10) * GNOME 3.32 test day is on Wednesday over at #fedora-test-day (kalev, 14:27:28) * We're almost fully up to date with GNOME 3.32 upstream releases, with the exception of gdm and gnome-initial-setup (kalev, 14:31:25) * We have several new flatpaks built in Fedora: 0ad, wesnoth, thunderbird (kalev, 14:34:04) * ship Fedora flatpak repos by default? (kalev, 14:35:41) * ACTION: kalev to make sure fedora flatpak repos are installed by default (kalev, 14:43:48) * Videos discussion from the fedora-desktop list (kalev, 14:44:56) Meeting ended at 15:00:05 UTC. Action Items ------------ * kalev to make sure fedora flatpak repos are installed by default Action Items, by person ----------------------- * kalev * kalev to make sure fedora flatpak repos are installed by default * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * kalev (92) * otaylor (36) * zodbot (13) * mcatanzaro (12) * juhp (12) * kparal (11) * mclasen (11) * ryanlerch (8) * kwizart (4) * cschalle (1) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot

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gnome software reports download size much bigger than installed size
by Chris Murphy 27 Feb '19

27 Feb '19

Fedora 29 Workstation I'm finding a weak pattern when source is dl.flathub.org. A significant minority of dl.flathub.org apps report rather huge download sizes, and two or three orders magnitude smaller installation size. I'm not seeing this for other sources, even for the same app. A sample: atom source dl.flathub.org installed size 521.4 MB download size 4.7 GB geany source dl.flathub.org installed size 7.5 MB download size 4.8 GB builder source dl.flathub.org installed size 123 MB download size 4.8 GB builder source fedoraproject.org download size 11.7 MB visual studio code - OSS source dl.flathub.org installed size 235.7 MB download size 2.0 GB android studio source dl.flathub.org installed size 422.4 kB download size 5.8 GB Is this a known bug? If not, what information is needed to file a bug report? I can't imagine downloading this much data for one app, but then it ends up not really needing this much storage space? That doesn't seem possible. Thanks, -- Chris Murphy

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Fedora 30 Gnome 3.32 Test Day 2019-02-05
by Sumantro Mukherjee 27 Feb '19

27 Feb '19

Hola! Monday, 2019-02-25 will be Fedora 30 Gnome 3.32 Test Day! As part of this planned Change for Fedora 30, So this is an important Test Day! As we approach the beta dates, we try to make sure that all the gnome features are performing as they should and then file bugs well ahead of time. We need to ensure it's working well enough and catch any remaining issues. It's also pretty easy to join in: all you'll need is Test Day image (which you can grab from the wiki page[0]). As always, the event will be in #fedora-test-day on Freenode IRC. [0]https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2019-02-25_Gnome_3.32_Test_Day Thanks //sumantro

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Re: Fedora 30 0222 drop
by Adam Williamson 26 Feb '19

26 Feb '19

On Sat, 2019-02-23 at 16:25 -0500, pmkellly(a)frontier.com wrote: > Testing of F30 Workstation pre-Beta 0222 drop: > > ISO file could not checked for integrity because the CHECKSUM file was > not in: > https://kojipkgs.fedoraproject.org/compose/branched/Fedora-30-20190222.n.0/… Indeed. Mohan, any idea what's going on there? Thanks for catching this. > The ISO was burned to a DVD and used to boot the test PC (Lenovo M58p > with E8400 processor) for bare metal install. The Media check that > normally runs before Anaconda starts did not run, but Anaconda started > and ran normally to completion with no problems or errors found. From the openQA videos, the 'test this media & start' boot menu entry does still seem to be the default, so presumably the implementation of the check itself is broken. That's definitely a problem, we should look into it if confirmed - have you filed a bug? Thanks! > Note able results: > > dbus-daemon no longer appears on the systemctl --all --failed list. In > fact there were no failures listed Yes, this was expected to be fixed in this compose. > tracker-miner crashes were not observed as with prior drops. > > The Gnome Settings still crashes permanently when the Details tab is > clicked. This seems serious, but I haven't nominated it as a blocker > because of my lack of experience here. I'll leave it to others to > decide. The Bug is #1680319. There's definitely something badly busted about it ATM, it seems. For me it's still crashing on startup, but I haven't updated to the latest compose yet. Other related bugs look to be: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1674167 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1667821 (possibly) https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1667733 desktop folks, can you please look into this? Thanks! > The following non-blocker bugs apply 1562418, 1648943, and 1654802. They > have been updated to show F30. Thanks! -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | XMPP: adamw AT happyassassin . net http://www.happyassassin.net

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[Test Days] Gnome 3.32 Test Day 2019-02-27
by Sumantro Mukherjee 25 Feb '19

25 Feb '19

Hey All, Wednesday, 2019-02-27 is the Fedora 30 Gnome 3.32 Test Day! As part of changes Gnome 3.32 <https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/GNOME3.32> in Fedora 30, we need *your* help to test if everything runs smoothly. All the instructions are on the wiki page <https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2019-02-27_Gnome_3.32_Test_Day>, so please read through and come help us test! As always, the event will be in #fedora-test-day on Freenode IRC <https://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=fedora-test-day>. Encouraging everyone to participate and make Fedora better! If you have any questions, feel free to ask me! Thanks //sumantro

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Removing GNOME Videos?
by Bastien Nocera 25 Feb '19

25 Feb '19

Hey, I wanted to gauge interest for this particular solution to a long-standing problem, that of being able to play back videos in the user's possession. TL;DR: Remove totem so that users get it from a place where it can play videos A long, long time ago, thomasvs and I worked on implementing a mechanism for automatic codec installation in GStreamer applications, such as totem: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/FeatureCodecBuddy https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Interviews/CodecBuddy https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2007/09/gnome-2-20-officiall… There was only one implementation, which offered a native(-ish) front-end to Fluendo's web store. Fluendo at that time was[1] providing proprietary plugins so that distributions based in jurisdictions where software patents applied, or that wanted to distribute there, or organisations where this applied, could buy those plugins to get peace of mind. Obviously, pointing to a company's webstore in a package that was part of Fedora's default installation didn't go down well, and the implementation was replaced with something more generic: GStreamer plugins inside packages would be scanned at build time to have "RPM provides" metadata added to the package, and an application[2] was added to look for "a package that provides this thing" when a multimedia application was missing a plugin. Fast-forward 12 years, and even if the name of the codecs that are missing have changed, and what we can automatically install online to has also changed (we have full MP3 support, yay! but the AAC and H264 support are rather incomplete), the workflow is still the same, but probably slightly more broken. The problems: - the PackageKit GStreamer plugin installer doesn't implement the "missing- plugins" interface correctly: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=100791 which breaks applications (because it tells the app to re-scan the installed plugins even though nothing's installed yet): https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/totem/issues/62 - The "provides" in the RPM packages can't fully express the required plugins. The GStreamer missing plugins code gives out a very very detailed information on what plugin is needed, something which cannot be implemented via the simple string comparison we use to select which package to install. This is a problem you could get with the plugins that Fedora points to out of the box, but that don't implement all the profiles[3]. - Even if a compatible plugin gets installed, it might not be _the_ plugin that needs to be used to integrate a particular feature. For example, the GStreamer DVD playback plugin requires the liba52-based AC3 decoder to work, and will not work with another one.[4] - The user still needs to figure out where to get the rest of the codecs. Want to play H265? Go search for the repository that provides this. Want to play DVDs? It won't install automatically and you'll also need to search for it. - Providing the automatic codecs installation functionality using the RPM-based Flatpaks for Silverblue would be a *lot* of infrastructure work, if it even is feasible[5]. If for some reason we decide that we want to keep totem in the distribution, then a number of things would need to happen: - PackageKit's plugin installation helper would need to be fixed to match what the API requires - We'd need to review popular codecs, and make sure that for both decoders and encoders, enough metadata is available in the RPM provides for the "right" ones to be installed - Figure out what to do for the RPM-based Flatpaks Note that this only applies to Fedora. If somebody wants to discuss the status of this for the other distribution on which I work, please reply privately. Cheers [1]: Maybe they still are? The page still mentioned GStreamer 0.10: https://fluendo.com/en/products/enterprise/fluendo-codec-pack/ [2]: Might have been a PackageKit front-end already, I couldn't find a reference after a quick web search, and it's not super relevant [3]: I've not verified/tested this, I know it to be a possibility though [4]: This isn't a problem since Fedora ships the a52dec, but it was one [5]: It's always feasible, given enough time ;)

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[Fedocal] Reminder meeting : Workstation WG
by stickster＠gmail.com 23 Feb '19

23 Feb '19

Dear all, You are kindly invited to the meeting: Workstation WG on 2019-02-25 from 09:00:00 to 10:00:00 America/New_York At fedora-meeting-2(a)irc.freenode.net The meeting will be about: Regular meeting for the Workstation Working Group. Agenda: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issues?status=Open&tags=meeting Chair: * Dec 03 - Michael Catanzaro * Dec 17 - Matthias Clasen * Jan 14 - Rex Dieter * Jan 28 - (devconf) * Feb 11 - Paul Frields * Feb 25 - Kalev Lember * Mar 11 - Ryan Lerch * Mar 25 - Jens Petersen * Apr 08 - Christian Schaller * Apr 22 - Owen Taylor More information available at: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Workstation Source: https://apps.fedoraproject.org/calendar/meeting/6411/

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gnome-books has been obsoleted
by Bastien Nocera 19 Feb '19

19 Feb '19

Hey, As gnome-books was split off from gnome-documents upstream, packaging gnome-books would have required a new package to be introduced. As gnome-books is already available as a Flatpak from the upstream maintainer on Flathub, and no one else volunteered a new package, I've made gnome-books obsolete in Fedora. The change has been made in fedora-obsolete-packages: https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/fedora-obsolete-packages/pull-request/14 And gnome-documents has been updated to the latest 3.31 release in rawhide/F30. Regards

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Auto-rotate not working on HP Envy X360 Ryzen 2500U
by Luya Tshimbalanga 14 Feb '19

14 Feb '19

Just an updated status, Hans tried to resolve an issue related to auto-rotation screen but is unable to get the needed driver for the fix. The component in question is an AMD Sensor Fusion HUB found on some mobile Raven Ridge. We vainly try to contact AMD to obtain the needed documentation and filed the report to upstream as well. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1651886 What will be the alternate approach to solve the problem? Thanks. Luya

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audio issue with Thinkpad X1 Carbon
by Matthew Miller 13 Feb '19

13 Feb '19

With my new Thinkpad (6th gen), I can hear CPU load as noise in the headphones. (Like, if I do something like "find /", the noise directly corresponds to the work being done.) I found this over on the Arch forums https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=1824636#p1824636 sudo hda-verb /dev/snd/hwC0D0 0x1d SET_PIN_WIDGET_CONTROL 0x0 and, indeed, that fixes the issue until next boot. I'd like to file a bug but I'm not actually sure where to file it (kernel? something in alsa?). And I'm also not sure if the above is really a fix or just a kludge. Suggestions? -- Matthew Miller <mattdm(a)fedoraproject.org> Fedora Project Leader

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