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Btrfs by default status updates, 2020-08-23
by Chris Murphy 23 Aug '20

23 Aug '20

News: + A pagure project has been created "fedora-btrfs" for overall development and planning for Btrfs in Fedora. https://pagure.io/fedora-btrfs/project/ This is to consolidate high level Btrfs related issues, and planning for future Fedora releases. It can include issues related to documentation, article suggestions, feature requests, and integration. Bugs should still be reported at bugzilla.redhat.com. Issues with Btrfs user-space commands should be filed against the btrfs-progs component. All other bugs should be filed against the kernel component, while also setting the Assignee field to: fedora-kernel-btrfs(a)fedoraproject.org ----- Changes: + Libvirt VMs set nodatacow for enclosing directory when on Btrfs - as of libvirt-6.6.0 This is now in Fedora 33. The effect is the enclosing directories for images have 'chattr +C' set. This affects Cockpit, GNOME Boxes, and virt-manager. It will also work with virt-install using this syntax: virt-install --disk size=10 It won't get +C if using the explicit path: virt-install --disk size=10,path=/var/lib/libvirt/images/demo.img Once chattr +C is set, anything created (new or copied) will inherit this behavior. Anyone upgrading from Rawhide likely won't see this new behavior, and may want to manually 'chattr +C' on the appropriate enclosing directory. While you can't change an existing non-zero length file to nodatacow, you can use 'cp' to duplicate it inside a directory with nodatacow already set. + cp uses reflink=auto by default - as of coreutils-8.32-12.fc33 ----- Noteworthy bugs: + Creating an armhfp disk image with btrfs results in an empty filesystem https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1855034 The original reported bug was fixed a while ago; but since then everything is copied to the Btrfs file system due to mount order confusion. A big part of the difficulty is that problem doesn't reproduce locally, only in Fedora compose system. A fix has been pushed. Fingers crossed. https://pagure.io/appliance-tools/pull-request/15 + btrfs subvolume creation on a loop-mounted filesystem fails when using qemu-user https://pagure.io/fedora-btrfs/project/issue/11 This issue is exposed by the previously mentioned RHBZ. There seems to be some confusion resulting from use in an emulated environment. Debugging continues. ----- Communication: + Fedora Magazine article "Btrfs Coming to Fedora 33" will be published Monday, 24 August. ----- Documentation: + A partial list of docs needing updates https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/158#comment-672898 https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/docs@lists.fedoraproject.org/… Assistance in updating is appreciated, but in particular it'd be most helpful to find additional weak spots that have not yet been identified. -- Chris Murphy

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f33-backgrounds available in the repository
by Luya Tshimbalanga 19 Aug '20

19 Aug '20

Hello team and testers, f33-backgrounds is now available for testing in Fedora 33 repository. The major change is the time of day enabled by default (default animated background) on Workstation Edition and Design Suite Labs. As a result, the animated subpackage is eliminated from this release. For users running on different desktop environments, both MATE and Cinnamon inherit that function and their respective spin maintainers can optionally enable. Selecting a a separate default background with their time of day version is now possible for KDE and XFCE which lacks support of time of day features. Developers are free to provide a patch to enable. For installation on GNOME or Cinnamon, sudo dnf install f33-backgrounds-{base,gnome} For MATE, sudo dnf install f33-backgrounds-{base,mate} For KDE, sudo dnf install f33-backgrounds-{base,kde} For XFCE, sudo dnf install f33-backgrounds-{base,xfce} Thank you for testing -- Luya Tshimbalanga Fedora Design Team Fedora Design Suite maintainer

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Fedora Workstation WG minutes, 2020-08-18
by Chris Murphy 19 Aug '20

19 Aug '20

============================================== #fedora-meeting-2: Workstation WG (2020-08-18) ============================================== Meeting started by cmurf at 18:13:08 UTC. The full logs are available at https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2020-08-19/workstation.2… . Meeting summary --------------- * Rollcall (cmurf, 18:13:22) * present wg members: cmurf, kalev, aday, langdon, neal, michael, owen (cmurf, 18:13:24) * regrets wg members: tpopela, mclasen (cmurf, 18:13:26) * present guests: james, salimma (cmurf, 18:13:28) * Approv 11 Aug minutes (cmurf, 18:13:30) * LINK: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/teams/workstation/workstation.2020-08-12-… (cmurf, 18:13:32) * AGREED: Approved - no objections (cmurf, 18:13:34) * Announcements (cmurf, 18:13:36) * GNOME test day for F33 will be 19 August (cmurf, 18:13:38) * Follow-ups & Status reports (cmurf, 18:13:46) * LINK: https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=31659&preview=1&_ppp=fd915d2b90 (cmurf, 18:13:52) * Remove Photos and Rhythmbox from the default apps (cmurf, 18:13:56) * LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/164 (cmurf, 18:13:58) * ACTION: Allan will talk to Debarshi, the Photos maintainer, to let him know (cmurf, 18:14:00) * ACTION: Michael to make the comps changes (cmurf, 18:14:20) * Make a small core of packages non-removable with DNF (cmurf, 18:14:22) * LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/165 (cmurf, 18:14:24) * AGREED: The WG agrees to make grub2, shim and gnome-shell non-removable. (cmurf, 18:14:26) * ACTION: Neal to open a PR to make grub2 and shim non-removable Fedora-wide (cmurf, 18:14:28) * ACTION: Kalev to protect gnome-shell (using fedora-release-workstation) (cmurf, 18:14:30) Meeting ended at 18:14:50 UTC. Action Items ------------ * Allan will talk to Debarshi, the Photos maintainer, to let him know * Michael to make the comps changes * Neal to open a PR to make grub2 and shim non-removable Fedora-wide * Kalev to protect gnome-shell (using fedora-release-workstation) Action Items, by person ----------------------- * **UNASSIGNED** * Allan will talk to Debarshi, the Photos maintainer, to let him know * Michael to make the comps changes * Neal to open a PR to make grub2 and shim non-removable Fedora-wide * Kalev to protect gnome-shell (using fedora-release-workstation) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * cmurf (39) * zodbot (7) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot

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GNOME 3.37 Test Day is under way!
by Sumantro Mukherjee 19 Aug '20

19 Aug '20

Hey All Fedora 33 GNOME 3.37 Test Day is happening[0] now. This is the time when we test the new features and version bumps of all the GNOME apps which came with the megaupdate. You can use the latest F33 image (pointed on the wiki) for this Test Day. If you have some spare time, please help run the test cases mentioned[1] and report the bugs on Gnome GitLab or RHBZ (if it's Fedora specific). [0] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2020-08-19_Fedora_33_Gnome_3.37 [1] https://testdays.fedorainfracloud.org/events/91 -- //sumantro Fedora QE TRIED AND PERSONALLY TESTED, ERGO TRUSTED

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[Fedocal] Reminder meeting : Workstation WG
by catanzaro＠fedoraproject.org 17 Aug '20

17 Aug '20

Dear all, You are kindly invited to the meeting: Workstation WG on 2020-08-18 from 09:30:00 to 10:30:00 US/Eastern At https://bluejeans.com/395383051/ The meeting will be about: Regular meeting for the Workstation Working Group Current Topics: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issues?status=Open&tags=meeting Etherpad: https://etherpad.gnome.org/p/fedora-workstation-wg More information available at: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Workstation Source: https://apps.fedoraproject.org/calendar/meeting/9652/

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2020-08-18 MEETING AGENDA
by Chris Murphy 17 Aug '20

17 Aug '20

Workstation Working Group Meeting Date and Time: 2020-08-18 9:30 am ET 13:30 UTC Location: https://bluejeans.com/395383051/ https://www.bluejeans.com/numbers == Agenda == Approval of 11 Aug minutes https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/teams/workstation/workstation.2020-08-12-… Announcements Follow-ups & Status reports Topics #164 Remove Photos and Rhythmbox from the default apps https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/164 Open Floor -- Chris Murphy

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f33-backgrounds package awaiting for revie
by Luya Tshimbalanga 15 Aug '20

15 Aug '20

Hello team, f33-backgrounds is ready for package review containing the changes highlighted on the Changeset[1]. Subpackage aminated is gone starting this release now the time of day is integrated as a single xml file. See, https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1868290 References --------------- [1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/33/ChangeSet#Default_animated_backg… -- Luya Tshimbalanga Fedora Design Team Fedora Design Suite maintainer

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Fedora Workstation WG minutes, 2020-08-11
by Chris Murphy 11 Aug '20

11 Aug '20

============================================== #fedora-meeting-2: Workstation WG (2020-08-11) ============================================== Meeting started by cmurf at 03:44:48 UTC. The full logs are available at https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2020-08-12/workstation.2… . Meeting summary --------------- * Rollcall (cmurf, 03:45:06) * present wg members: cmurf, tpopela, mclasen, Neal, jens, langdon, mcatanzaro, owen (cmurf, 03:45:08) * regrets wg members: aday kalev (cmurf, 03:45:10) * present guests: feborges, james (cmurf, 03:45:12) * Approve August 04 minutes (cmurf, 03:45:14) * LINK: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/teams/workstation/workstation.2020-08-05-… (cmurf, 03:45:16) * AGREED: No objections - approved (cmurf, 03:45:18) * Announcements (cmurf, 03:45:20) * F33 branchpoint is today (cmurf, 03:45:22) * Work on gnome-disks is proceeding (cmurf, 03:45:24) * Many FTBFS bugs against various desktop packages. python changes and cmake changes. (cmurf, 03:45:26) * Welcome video for GNOME Tour (cmurf, 03:45:34) * LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/175 (cmurf, 03:45:36) * AGREED: This seems to be on the right track. (cmurf, 03:45:40) * Remove Photos and Rhythmbox from default apps (cmurf, 03:45:42) * LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/164 (cmurf, 03:45:44) * Some questions about Videos being the default music player. Upstream is OK with this. (cmurf, 03:45:52) * AGREED: Continue discussion next week when Allan is present. (cmurf, 03:46:00) * btrfs Fedora Magazine article (cmurf, 03:46:02) * LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/162 (cmurf, 03:46:04) * ACTION: Langdon to attempt a rewrite of the article, working with Chris. (cmurf, 03:46:16) Meeting ended at 03:46:34 UTC. Action Items ------------ * Langdon to attempt a rewrite of the article, working with Chris. Action Items, by person ----------------------- * **UNASSIGNED** * Langdon to attempt a rewrite of the article, working with Chris. People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * cmurf (40) * zodbot (7) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot

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Testing request: OpenConnect VPN with 2FA on Rawhide
by Adam Williamson 10 Aug '20

10 Aug '20

Hi folks! Sending this with fairly wide distribution in the hopes of finding someone with appropriate configuration. There's a proposed blocker bug for F33: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1830343 which reports a hang in the GNOME Shell VPN auth flow when trying to connect to an OpenConnect VPN with a 2FA configuration where - if I understand the report correctly - the user enters their ID and the first factor first, then the server prompts for the second factor; at the point where the second factor is entered, nm-openconnect-auth- dialog hangs, and the connection never completes. There's a video demonstrating the issue in the bug. We're concerned about this as a potential blocker issue, but we're not sure how many people have a potentially affected VPN config, and if so, whether the bug is reproducible on them all. So if you have what you think is a similar VPN config - using OpenConnect with 2FA - it'd be great if you could test it on Fedora Rawhide, using a virtual machine obviously unless you already run Rawhide or are very comfortable with very pre-release operating systems :) If you try it, please do report your results along with details of your VPN config back here and/or to the bug report. Thanks! -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | identi.ca: adamwfedora http://www.happyassassin.net

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Proposal to Add: Log In/Out Blocker Criteria
by Geoffrey Marr 10 Aug '20

10 Aug '20

At today's blocker review meeting[0], we ran across a bug[1] that we believe is bad enough to warrant blocker status, but as the criteria currently stand, does not violate any particular criterion. The bug in question has to do with logging out of one user account and logging into another account that has already been accessed before during that boot. The criterion listed in the bug[2] doesn't seem to fit, as it is more focused on what happens after the system is booted (which does work in the case of this bug). There is a Final criterion[3] that covers switching between two accounts, where the data in the account switched out of is retained, but that is not the case presented here (as this bug has to do with "logging in/out" of accounts, not "switching" as they are defined technically). Intellectually, we believe this type of bug should violate the criteria, as it seems a common use-case, and so we are bringing it up as a possible addition as there is nothing that currently covers this kind of bug. The new criterion could look something like "A system with multiple user accounts must be able to log in and out of said accounts as presented by all release-blocking desktops in their default configuration." We would appreciate feedback on this idea and the wording of the criterion. Should this be a beta or a final blocker? If nothing is heard in a reasonable amount of time (before next week's blocker review meeting), we will assume there is no issue with the proposal and add it to the criteria at that time. Thanks for reading, Geoff Marr IRC: coremodule [0] https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-blocker-review/2020-08-03/f33-bloc… [1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1861700 [2] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Basic_Release_Criteria#Expected_installed_sy… [3] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_33_Final_Release_Criteria#User_switch…

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