Hi,
Can someone take screenshots of very user visible changes such as the new volume control and add them to
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_Alpha_release_notes
If you can some short descriptions, that would be helpful as well.
Rahul
On Wed, 2009-01-28 at 03:10 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
Hi,
Can someone take screenshots of very user visible changes such as the new volume control and add them to
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_Alpha_release_notes
If you can some short descriptions, that would be helpful as well.
Are we trying to turn the alpha into more than it is supposed to be ?
If you need screenshots, just use the ones that are already available on the feature pages.
Matthias Clasen wrote:
On Wed, 2009-01-28 at 03:10 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
Hi,
Can someone take screenshots of very user visible changes such as the new volume control and add them to
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_Alpha_release_notes
If you can some short descriptions, that would be helpful as well.
Are we trying to turn the alpha into more than it is supposed to be ?
Not sure why you ask that. I am just trying to fill in more of the release notes and we can reuse the material elsewhere as well. If we can show improvements, we get to encourage more people to test it and provide early feedback. Documenting changes in part of that process.
If you need screenshots, just use the ones that are already available on the feature pages.
I couldn't find it in the feature pages.
Rahul
On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 8:50 AM, Rahul Sundaram sundaram@fedoraproject.org wrote:
Matthias Clasen wrote:
On Wed, 2009-01-28 at 03:10 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
Hi,
Can someone take screenshots of very user visible changes such as the new volume control and add them to
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_Alpha_release_notes
If you can some short descriptions, that would be helpful as well.
Are we trying to turn the alpha into more than it is supposed to be ?
Not sure why you ask that. I am just trying to fill in more of the release notes and we can reuse the material elsewhere as well. If we can show improvements, we get to encourage more people to test it and provide early feedback. Documenting changes in part of that process.
If you need screenshots, just use the ones that are already available on the feature pages.
I couldn't find it in the feature pages.
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/VolumeControl#User_Experience
drago01 wrote:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/VolumeControl#User_Experience
I was actually looking for the screenshot in the panel. Found it at Bastien Nocera's blog. Thanks.
Rahul
Matthias Clasen wrote:
On Wed, 2009-01-28 at 03:10 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
Hi,
Can someone take screenshots of very user visible changes such as the new volume control and add them to
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_Alpha_release_notes
If you can some short descriptions, that would be helpful as well.
Are we trying to turn the alpha into more than it is supposed to be ?
Not sure why you ask that. I am just trying to fill in more of the release notes and we can reuse the material elsewhere as well. If we can show improvements, we get to encourage more people to test it and provide early feedback. Documenting changes in part of that process.
If you need screenshots, just use the ones that are already available on the feature pages.
I couldn't find it in the feature pages.
Rahul
On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 01:21:07PM +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
Matthias Clasen wrote:
On Wed, 2009-01-28 at 03:10 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
Hi,
Can someone take screenshots of very user visible changes such as the new volume control and add them to
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_Alpha_release_notes
If you can some short descriptions, that would be helpful as well.
Are we trying to turn the alpha into more than it is supposed to be ?
Not sure why you ask that. I am just trying to fill in more of the release notes and we can reuse the material elsewhere as well. If we can show improvements, we get to encourage more people to test it and provide early feedback. Documenting changes in part of that process.
I think Matthias meant that the Alpha is intended for a highly technical developer/tester audience, for whom screenshots aren't very compelling. And since interfaces have a way of changing by the time the Beta and Preview come around -- when we ask for participation by the general public -- it might make sense to hold off until the pre-Beta timeframe. The concept is good, just the timing may be a bit premature.
Nevertheless, if there are upstream screenshots that we can use, it's not that big a deal either way.
Paul W. Frields wrote:
I think Matthias meant that the Alpha is intended for a highly technical developer/tester audience, for whom screenshots aren't very compelling.
I thought so too earlier on but from interacting with users, it isn't quite true. Even for alpha or beta releases, a lot of people (and press) like screenshots. Screenshots and screencasts attract people throughout development cycle. Any major change in the interface like Plymouth in the earlier release and volume control in this release is definitely worth highlighting.
Also, instead of trying to put together all of the release notes at the end of the cycle, I am trying to do it more incrementally and do a better job each milestone. Except for a few notes about what a alpha or beta release means, it is worth taking it as seriously as the general release. I am now more or less done with the Fedora 11 Alpha release notes and pretty happy with it.
Rahul
On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 02:03:20AM +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
Paul W. Frields wrote:
I think Matthias meant that the Alpha is intended for a highly technical developer/tester audience, for whom screenshots aren't very compelling.
I thought so too earlier on but from interacting with users, it isn't quite true. Even for alpha or beta releases, a lot of people (and press) like screenshots. Screenshots and screencasts attract people throughout development cycle. Any major change in the interface like Plymouth in the earlier release and volume control in this release is definitely worth highlighting.
Also, instead of trying to put together all of the release notes at the end of the cycle, I am trying to do it more incrementally and do a better job each milestone. Except for a few notes about what a alpha or beta release means, it is worth taking it as seriously as the general release. I am now more or less done with the Fedora 11 Alpha release notes and pretty happy with it.
You did a good job of bubbling up important topics for the release notes, thanks for your work there!
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