Hi everyone! In previous Fedora Workstation / GNOME, pressing the volume up or down keys would cause a beep at the new level. This doesn't seem to happen for me after an upgrade. I'm pretty sure it previously happened even with "System Sounds" set to off, but in any case, I've now turned those on and still get no beeps. (The buttons still work, and I get the visual indicator, but no audible one.)
Is this an intentional change?
Hi,
On Tue, 2020-03-17 at 16:03 -0400, Matthew Miller wrote:
Hi everyone! In previous Fedora Workstation / GNOME, pressing the volume up or down keys would cause a beep at the new level. This doesn't seem to happen for me after an upgrade. I'm pretty sure it previously happened even with "System Sounds" set to off, but in any case, I've now turned those on and still get no beeps. (The buttons still work, and I get the visual indicator, but no audible one.)
Is this an intentional change?
I am pretty sure there was no change on the gnome-settings-daemon side (which both triggers the volume change and emits the sound).
I do think the sound has always been muted when "System Sounds" are set to off though.
Benjamin
On Tue, Mar 17, 2020 at 2:03 PM Matthew Miller mattdm@fedoraproject.org wrote:
Hi everyone! In previous Fedora Workstation / GNOME, pressing the volume up or down keys would cause a beep at the new level. This doesn't seem to happen for me after an upgrade. I'm pretty sure it previously happened even with "System Sounds" set to off, but in any case, I've now turned those on and still get no beeps. (The buttons still work, and I get the visual indicator, but no audible one.)
Is this an intentional change?
I'm experiencing the same effect and I think it's a bug.
On Tue, Mar 17, 2020 at 11:23 PM Chris Murphy lists@colorremedies.com wrote:
On Tue, Mar 17, 2020 at 2:03 PM Matthew Miller mattdm@fedoraproject.org wrote:
Hi everyone! In previous Fedora Workstation / GNOME, pressing the volume up or down keys would cause a beep at the new level. This doesn't seem to happen for me after an upgrade. I'm pretty sure it previously happened
even
with "System Sounds" set to off, but in any case, I've now turned those
on
and still get no beeps. (The buttons still work, and I get the visual indicator, but no audible one.)
Is this an intentional change?
I'm experiencing the same effect and I think it's a bug.
I have recently noticed this as well. I have seen two different cases: 1. no beeps at all during volume change 2. an occasional beep during volume change, but at most once per ~3 seconds. So if I slowly change the volume, every second or third change emits a beep. If I wait ~3 seconds between each individual adjustment, I get a beep on every change. So it's timeout-based, not number-of-adjustments-based.
This applies both to changing the volume using multimedia keys (shown in overlay) and moving the volume slider in the top right corner. So far, I haven't determined why I sometimes see case #1 and sometimes case #2.
On Tue, Mar 17, 2020 at 04:22:29PM -0600, Chris Murphy wrote:
Hi everyone! In previous Fedora Workstation / GNOME, pressing the volume up or down keys would cause a beep at the new level. This doesn't seem to happen for me after an upgrade. I'm pretty sure it previously happened even with "System Sounds" set to off, but in any case, I've now turned those on and still get no beeps. (The buttons still work, and I get the visual indicator, but no audible one.) Is this an intentional change?
I'm experiencing the same effect and I think it's a bug.
Any idea what I should file it against? The set of components that might be involved are all a mystery to me. :)
On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 12:01 PM Matthew Miller mattdm@fedoraproject.org wrote:
On Tue, Mar 17, 2020 at 04:22:29PM -0600, Chris Murphy wrote:
Hi everyone! In previous Fedora Workstation / GNOME, pressing the volume up or down keys would cause a beep at the new level. This doesn't seem to happen for me after an upgrade. I'm pretty sure it previously happened even with "System Sounds" set to off, but in any case, I've now turned those on and still get no beeps. (The buttons still work, and I get the visual indicator, but no audible one.) Is this an intentional change?
I'm experiencing the same effect and I think it's a bug.
Any idea what I should file it against? The set of components that might be involved are all a mystery to me. :)
I guess gnome-shell.
On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 13:01, Chris Murphy lists@colorremedies.com wrote:
On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 12:01 PM Matthew Miller mattdm@fedoraproject.org wrote:
Any idea what I should file it against? The set of components that might be involved are all a mystery to me. :)
I guess gnome-shell.
gnome-settings-daemon, as mentioned earlier in the thread
Cheers, Florian
Hi,
On Thu, 2020-03-19 at 20:30 +0100, Florian Müllner wrote:
gnome-settings-daemon, as mentioned earlier in the thread
Right, this is actually a gnome-settings-daemon regression. I had completely forgotten about reviewing and accepting that change.
See https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-settings-daemon/issues/508
I think we are simply going to revert the problematic change. The idea here was to not play the sound when there is some other audio playing. But unfortunately that detection is simply not good enough.
Benjamin
Cheers, Florian
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On Sat, Mar 28, 2020 at 04:36:40PM +0100, Benjamin Berg wrote:
See https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-settings-daemon/issues/508 I think we are simply going to revert the problematic change. The idea here was to not play the sound when there is some other audio playing. But unfortunately that detection is simply not good enough.
Awesome, thanks.
On Sat, Mar 28, 2020 at 4:37 PM Benjamin Berg bberg@redhat.com wrote:
Hi,
On Thu, 2020-03-19 at 20:30 +0100, Florian Müllner wrote:
gnome-settings-daemon, as mentioned earlier in the thread
Right, this is actually a gnome-settings-daemon regression. I had completely forgotten about reviewing and accepting that change.
See https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-settings-daemon/issues/508
I think we are simply going to revert the problematic change. The idea here was to not play the sound when there is some other audio playing. But unfortunately that detection is simply not good enough.
Is the plan to have it fixed in F32 Final? Otherwise I might create a commonbugs entry for it.
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