Two questions / bugs / issues with Fedora 17 Desktop, minor but kinda important for user experience
1) who decided that system-config-date is to be installed by default and given the confusing (for new users) system-config-date as a name in the menu?
From IRC:
<adamw> elad661: it's called 'system-config-date' because it was previously called Date and Time. see the problem with that? <elad661> yes, I do <elad661> but I think we could either remove it (since gnome's control panel provides the functionality) or find a better name. <elad661> we probably need it for firstboot, so removing the desktop file might be a good idea
2) why is "remote desktop viewer" installed by default? I thought gnome boxes provides this functionality now.
On Thu, 2012-03-15 at 19:30 +0200, Elad Alfassa wrote:
- who decided that system-config-date is to be installed by default
and given the confusing (for new users) system-config-date as a name in the menu? From IRC: <adamw> elad661: it's called 'system-config-date' because it was previously called Date and Time. see the problem with that? <elad661> yes, I do <elad661> but I think we could either remove it (since gnome's control panel provides the functionality) or find a better name. <elad661> we probably need it for firstboot, so removing the desktop file might be a good idea
In my opinion, the search-based shell overview makes this kind of redundancy less problematic than it was in a traditional menu system. But yes, it is a bit of a wart that anaconda and its dependencies end up on the installed system when installing from a live-cd.
- why is "remote desktop viewer" installed by default? I thought
gnome boxes provides this functionality now.
Does it actually provide this functionality now ? Have you tried ? I know that the goal is to eventually support it, but I am not positive that the feature will be in 3.4 / F17.
Matthias
On jue, 2012-03-15 at 17:09 -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote:
On Thu, 2012-03-15 at 19:30 +0200, Elad Alfassa wrote:
- why is "remote desktop viewer" installed by default? I thought
gnome boxes provides this functionality now.
Does it actually provide this functionality now ? Have you tried ?
It does indeed, I did a fun test with vnc://localhost a while ago ...
Florian
On Thu, 2012-03-15 at 17:09 -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote:
On Thu, 2012-03-15 at 19:30 +0200, Elad Alfassa wrote:
- who decided that system-config-date is to be installed by default
and given the confusing (for new users) system-config-date as a name in the menu? From IRC: <adamw> elad661: it's called 'system-config-date' because it was previously called Date and Time. see the problem with that? <elad661> yes, I do <elad661> but I think we could either remove it (since gnome's control panel provides the functionality) or find a better name. <elad661> we probably need it for firstboot, so removing the desktop file might be a good idea
In my opinion, the search-based shell overview makes this kind of redundancy less problematic than it was in a traditional menu system.
well, when you search for 'date' or 'time' you get both options, and there's really no indication which you should go for. In fact, most people would probably pick s-c-d because it gets shown ahead of GNOME's applet.
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