I wonder how to add panel applets to the panel in fallback mode of F15 Beta. There is no menu on right click.
If panel applets are no longer supported we need * an announcement to all packagers * to retire all applets and block them from F15 and rawhide * gnome-panel properly obsolete the retired packages * to have this documented in the release notes
Did I forget something?
Regards, Christoph
On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 4:33 PM, Christoph Wickert christoph.wickert@googlemail.com wrote:
I wonder how to add panel applets to the panel in fallback mode of F15 Beta. There is no menu on right click.
If panel applets are no longer supported we need * an announcement to all packagers * to retire all applets and block them from F15 and rawhide * gnome-panel properly obsolete the retired packages * to have this documented in the release notes
Did I forget something?
Regards, Christoph
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Am Montag, den 25.04.2011, 16:35 +0300 schrieb Elad:
On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 4:33 PM, Christoph Wickert christoph.wickert@googlemail.com wrote:
I wonder how to add panel applets to the panel in fallback mode of F15 Beta. There is no menu on right click.
If panel applets are no longer supported we need * an announcement to all packagers * to retire all applets and block them from F15 and rawhide * gnome-panel properly obsolete the retired packages * to have this documented in the release notes
Did I forget something?
Read here: http://www.vuntz.net/journal/post/2011/04/13/gnome-panel-is-dead,-long-live-...
So? I did read that article but I still have no idea how to add applets to the gnome-panel. I tried ALT + right click but there was no menu.
What I have learned though is that bonobo based applets are no longer supported, only dbus based ones are. This means we need to retire, block and properly obsolete many packages but so far this hasn't happened.
Regards, Christoph
On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 03:33:09PM +0200, Christoph Wickert wrote:
* to have this documented in the release notes
From Desktop beat of release notes:
* * * 2.1.1.1.8. What happened to applets?
Traditional GNOME panel applets are not supported in gnome-shell as explained here. The general design of GNOME 3 puts more emphasis on full applications, instead of squeezing too much into a small strip or space at the edge of your screen. There are, however, people working on an extension mechanism for the shell, similar to Firefox extensions. The code lives in this git repository. We don't expect this to be available in polished or packaged form for GNOME 3.0, though.
Any existing applets that have been adapted to use the new libpanel-applet will be available in fallback mode. However, fallback is not considered the default mode of operation and will not be actively developed in the future. For more information on applets and transitioning to gnome-shell, see this GNOME wiki page.
Some applets support a -w switch that allows them to run in a dedicated window if needed." * * *
http://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Fedora/15/html/Release_Notes/sect-Releas...
Hi Christoph,
On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 9:33 AM, Christoph Wickert christoph.wickert@googlemail.com wrote:
If panel applets are no longer supported we need * an announcement to all packagers
The Release notes seems good enough, no?
* to retire all applets and block them from F15 and rawhide
This should come after:
* gnome-panel properly obsolete the retired packages
What about the attached patch?
On Thu, 28 Apr 2011 16:13:30 -0400, CW wrote:
* gnome-panel properly obsolete the retired packages
What about the attached patch?
If these Obsoletes will make it, could you please add
Obsoletes: gnome-applet-netspeed
? That pkg is one [of a few] that has been retired during F-15 Rawhide.
On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 4:21 PM, Michael Schwendt mschwendt@gmail.com wrote:
? That pkg is one [of a few] that has been retired during F-15 Rawhide.
Done; is there a way to get a list of the other ones? Hm, I guess I should do this repoquery on F14, and union the lists.
On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 4:28 PM, Colin Walters walters@verbum.org wrote:
On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 4:21 PM, Michael Schwendt mschwendt@gmail.com wrote:
? That pkg is one [of a few] that has been retired during F-15 Rawhide.
Done; is there a way to get a list of the other ones? Hm, I guess I should do this repoquery on F14, and union the lists.
The contact-lookup-applet was also retired during F-15.
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Colin Walters (walters@verbum.org) said:
? That pkg is one [of a few] that has been retired during F-15 Rawhide.
Done; is there a way to get a list of the other ones? Hm, I guess I should do this repoquery on F14, and union the lists.
... while checking for any of the F-14 ones that have been ported to the current libraries, yes.
Bill
On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 04:13:30PM -0400, Colin Walters wrote:
+# repoquery --whatrequires libpanel-applet-2.so.0 gnome-python2-applet +# as of Fedora 15 20110428 +Obsoletes: gnome-python2-applet +Obsoletes: file-browser-applet +Obsoletes: glunarclock +Obsoletes: gnome-applet-bubblemon +Obsoletes: gnome-applet-cpufire +Obsoletes: gnome-applet-globalmenu +Obsoletes: gnome-applet-grandr +Obsoletes: gnome-applet-music +Obsoletes: gnome-applet-sensors +Obsoletes: gnome-applet-window-picker +Obsoletes: gnome-applets +Obsoletes: gnome-netstatus +Obsoletes: gnome-python2-applet +Obsoletes: gnubiff +Obsoletes: lock-keys-applet +Obsoletes: uim-gnome +Obsoletes: deskbar-applet +Obsoletes: gnome-applet-jalali-calendar +Obsoletes: gnome-applet-music +Obsoletes: gnome-applet-timer +Obsoletes: gnome-applets +Obsoletes: gnome-schedule +Obsoletes: hamster-applet +Obsoletes: x-tile
Shouldn't these Obsoletes: be versioned just in case someone wants to introduce a newer version of a package with the same name later?
On Thu, 2011-04-28 at 18:15 -0400, Chuck Anderson wrote:
On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 04:13:30PM -0400, Colin Walters wrote:
+# repoquery --whatrequires libpanel-applet-2.so.0 gnome-python2-applet +# as of Fedora 15 20110428 +Obsoletes: gnome-python2-applet +Obsoletes: file-browser-applet +Obsoletes: glunarclock +Obsoletes: gnome-applet-bubblemon +Obsoletes: gnome-applet-cpufire +Obsoletes: gnome-applet-globalmenu +Obsoletes: gnome-applet-grandr +Obsoletes: gnome-applet-music +Obsoletes: gnome-applet-sensors +Obsoletes: gnome-applet-window-picker +Obsoletes: gnome-applets +Obsoletes: gnome-netstatus +Obsoletes: gnome-python2-applet +Obsoletes: gnubiff +Obsoletes: lock-keys-applet +Obsoletes: uim-gnome +Obsoletes: deskbar-applet +Obsoletes: gnome-applet-jalali-calendar +Obsoletes: gnome-applet-music +Obsoletes: gnome-applet-timer +Obsoletes: gnome-applets +Obsoletes: gnome-schedule +Obsoletes: hamster-applet +Obsoletes: x-tile
Shouldn't these Obsoletes: be versioned just in case someone wants to introduce a newer version of a package with the same name later?
+1, obsoletes should *always* be versioned.
On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 6:43 PM, Adam Williamson awilliam@redhat.com wrote:
+1, obsoletes should *always* be versioned.
Building:
http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=241336
The one item left to figure out here is libpanelappletmm, which gnote depends on. We'd basically need to port gnote to keep it installed after an upgrade.
On Thu, 2011-04-28 at 19:45 -0400, Colin Walters wrote:
On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 6:43 PM, Adam Williamson awilliam@redhat.com wrote:
+1, obsoletes should *always* be versioned.
Building:
http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=241336
The one item left to figure out here is libpanelappletmm, which gnote depends on. We'd basically need to port gnote to keep it installed after an upgrade.
I'm pretty certain I disabled the panel applet in one of my recent builds of gnote.
$ rpm -q --requires gnote | grep panel $
On Tue, 2011-05-03 at 16:23 +0100, Bastien Nocera wrote:
On Thu, 2011-04-28 at 19:45 -0400, Colin Walters wrote:
On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 6:43 PM, Adam Williamson awilliam@redhat.com wrote:
+1, obsoletes should *always* be versioned.
Building:
http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=241336
The one item left to figure out here is libpanelappletmm, which gnote depends on. We'd basically need to port gnote to keep it installed after an upgrade.
I'm pretty certain I disabled the panel applet in one of my recent builds of gnote.
$ rpm -q --requires gnote | grep panel $
yeah, I remember we dealt with that a few weeks back.
On Thu, 28 Apr 2011 16:13:30 -0400, Colin Walters wrote:
Hi Christoph,
On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 9:33 AM, Christoph Wickert christoph.wickert@googlemail.com wrote:
If panel applets are no longer supported we need * an announcement to all packagers
The Release notes seems good enough, no?
* to retire all applets and block them from F15 and rawhide
This should come after:
* gnome-panel properly obsolete the retired packages
What about the attached patch?
Is anyone able to advise what will happen to the hardware monitoring applet?
Will this work in GNOME3 or GNOME Shell? Or do we need to wait for new 'widgets' to appear in a later GNOME release (3.2?) for this sort of functionality to appear again?
The hardware sensor applet is the main applet I use on my machine, apart from window switching.
Cheers, Dagan
On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 12:53 AM, Dagan McGregor ardrigh@acsonline.co.nz wrote:
Is anyone able to advise what will happen to the hardware monitoring applet?
Will this work in GNOME3 or GNOME Shell? Or do we need to wait for new 'widgets' to appear in a later GNOME release (3.2?) for this sort of functionality to appear again?
I think we will need to wait, see: http://live.gnome.org/GnomeShell/AppletsTransition
The hardware sensor applet is the main applet I use on my machine, apart from window switching.
+1
Dagan McGregor (ardrigh@acsonline.co.nz) said:
Is anyone able to advise what will happen to the hardware monitoring applet?
Will this work in GNOME3 or GNOME Shell? Or do we need to wait for new 'widgets' to appear in a later GNOME release (3.2?) for this sort of functionality to appear again?
(Assuming you're talking about gnome-applets-sensors)
If someone ports it to the new libpanel_applet, it will be available for use in fallback mode. Otherwise, it will have to wait until someone writes some sort of extension for it.
Bill
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