desktop October 2005

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RE: OSDL Linux client survey
by Oguike, Paul (Paul) 26 Oct '05

26 Oct '05

How do I get myself off fedora list? P _____ From: fedora-desktop-list-bounces(a)redhat.com [mailto:fedora-desktop-list-bounces@redhat.com] On Behalf Of Miller, Marc Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2005 5:01 PM To: fedora-desktop-list(a)redhat.com Subject: OSDL Linux client survey OSDL is surveying users who have Linux-based clients in their companies. Currently, 62% of the respondees are using Ubuntu, and 25% are using Fedora. We the OSDL members believe that Fedora is underrepresented. To correct this, please fill out the survey at the below link (if you have not already responded). http://developer.osdl.org/dev/dtl/survey/start.shtml <http://developer.osdl.org/dev/dtl/survey/start.shtml> The information from this survey will assist the OSDL Desktop working group to focus on areas of development that are important to you. The results of this survey may also be valuable to your business. Once you complete the survey, you will be able to view the current aggregated public results of the survey. The target recipients of this survey are IT professionals that have deployed enterprise Linux clients/desktops or are planning to deploy Linux clients/desktops. Please pass this survey announcement on to the appropriate members of your organization. Your prompt attention to this survey will provide the DTL team with pertinent data and allow the team to focus on areas of development that are important to you. Regards, OSDL DTL Marketing Working Group

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OSDL Linux client survey
by marc.miller＠amd.com 25 Oct '05

25 Oct '05

OSDL is surveying users who have Linux-based clients in their companies. Currently, 62% of the respondees are using Ubuntu, and 25% are using Fedora. We the OSDL members believe that Fedora is underrepresented. To correct this, please fill out the survey at the below link (if you have not already responded). http://developer.osdl.org/dev/dtl/survey/start.shtml The information from this survey will assist the OSDL Desktop working group to focus on areas of development that are important to you. The results of this survey may also be valuable to your business. Once you complete the survey, you will be able to view the current aggregated public results of the survey. The target recipients of this survey are IT professionals that have deployed enterprise Linux clients/desktops or are planning to deploy Linux clients/desktops. Please pass this survey announcement on to the appropriate members of your organization. Your prompt attention to this survey will provide the DTL team with pertinent data and allow the team to focus on areas of development that are important to you. Regards, OSDL DTL Marketing Working Group

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Re: SSH problem
by Filip Tsachev 24 Oct '05

24 Oct '05

why don't you just try to upgrade openssh release and/or kernel and test it... ps. this is not the list for this matter AFAIK -- Cheers, Filip

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SSH - Abnormal CPU Usage
by Thiago Arrais 22 Oct '05

22 Oct '05

Ferdorians, This is my first message to this groups, I don't really know if this would be the best group for my question. I am experiencing this problem for some time now, I hope you can help. The main problem is that my machine is causing CPU excessive usage when a SSH session is closed. It does not happen when openining, neither during the session, but when it is closed. I have tried to collect some evidence, here they are: - This is what I telled the machine for this test: $ ps -e -o pcpu,cputime,pid,args > before $ ssh localhost thiagob@localhost's password: id: cannot find name for group ID 74594 $ ps -e -o pcpu,cputime,pid,args > during $ exit $ ps -e -o pcpu,cputime,pid,args > after - Prior to the execution of the SSH client, everything is perfect with the processes running on the machine. I won't attach the process monitor report here because it is very long and doesn't add much information. There is almost no CPU activity prior to executing the client. - After opening an SSH terminal, the CPU isn't busy. Here is the process status I got with the terminal opened: $ grep ssh during 0.0 00:00:00 1898 /usr/sbin/sshd 0.0 00:00:00 2605 /usr/bin/ssh-agent startkde 0.4 00:00:00 4470 ssh localhost 0.0 00:00:00 4471 sshd: thiagob [priv] 0.0 00:00:00 4479 sshd: thiagob@pts/8 << This is the one that gets hungry - After executing the `exit` command, the CPU become annoingly busy: $ grep ssh after 0.0 00:00:00 1898 /usr/sbin/sshd 0.0 00:00:00 2605 /usr/bin/ssh-agent startkde 0.0 00:00:00 4471 sshd: thiagob [priv] 98.0 00:00:05 4479 sshd: thiagob@notty ^^ - These are the versions for the software: $ ssh -V OpenSSH_3.6.1p2, SSH protocols 1.5/2.0, OpenSSL 0x0090701f $ uname -a Linux serpro-1422052.rce.serpro 2.6.5-1.358 #1 Sat May 8 09:04:50 EDT 2004 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux $ bash --version GNU bash, version 2.05b.0(1)-release (i386-redhat-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 2002 Free Software Foundation, Inc. Some weird facts: - The same behavior is observer in two other machines when I open an SSH session from my machine - My logout scripts are empty on all machines, they contain at most a command to clena the term I hope anyone can help. Cheers, Thiago Arrais

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A new utility "System Control Center (system-config-control)" !
by Ankit Patel 10 Oct '05

10 Oct '05

Hi all, I have tried to make one utility called "system-config-control" for Fedora. Downloads (RPM, SRPM, zipped source) and Snapshots are awailable on http://www.indianoss.org . Right now it's available in only one language (Gujarati-India). Downloads: RPM :- http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/indianoss/system-config-control-1.0-1.no… SRPM :- http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/indianoss/system-config-control-1.0-1.sr… Source .bz2 :- http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/indianoss/system-config-control-1.0.tar.… Please try it out and give me some feedback on it. Thanks In Advance ! Regards, Ankit Patel (www.indianoss.org) __________________________________ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com

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Re: A new utility "System Control Center (system-config-control)" !
by Ankit Patel 06 Oct '05

06 Oct '05

Hi, --- Dan Fruehauf <danfr(a)matrix.co.il> wrote: > On Thu, 2005-10-06 at 04:20 -0700, Ankit Patel > wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > I have tried to make one utility called > > "system-config-control" for Fedora. Downloads > (RPM, > > SRPM, zipped source) and Snapshots are awailable > on > > http://www.indianoss.org . Right now it's > available in > > only one language (Gujarati-India). > > It looks like a good idea indeed although it needs > some UI work - I'd > like to see this in a form of a tree rather than > tabs - but that's my > own personal taste. I will try improve it in that way also. > However a very quick improvement that could be done > is that > system-config-control will ask for a root password > and all the other > utilities won't - that might simplify things for the > end user. > I didn't have the time to go into the source code, > but a question that > rises is - how modular is that utility? if we have a > new system-config > utility - how much will we have to work in order to > configure it to work > with system-config-control? Just add one button in the used glade file and give it a name which the actual command uses to run that utility. > Perhaps we would also like to first probe which > system-config utilities > are installed and then let the user choose only > between them? - The end > user might be frightened to see a kickstart icon > without knowing what is > it at all... really good suggestion ! :) > > Otherwise - keep up the good work - as I previously > said - it's a good > idea. > > Regards, > Dan. Thanks for your helpful suggestions ! Regards, Ankit Patel (www.indianoss.org) __________________________________ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com

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Fedora-core applications can't be killed fully from terminal !
by Ankit Patel 05 Oct '05

05 Oct '05

I have run the "hwbrowser" from the menu. Then i tried to kill hwbrowser from terminal. 1.kill pid_of_hwbrowser --> This command kills only binary (hwbrowser) run by the normal user, not the main application because there are many (3) processes running along with hwbrowser. and they are. [ankit@ankit ~]$ ps -aux | grep hwbrowser Warning: bad syntax, perhaps a bogus '-'? See /usr/share/doc/procps-3.2.3/FAQ ankit 6355 1.0 1.5 18460 8108 pts/2 S 12:38 0:00 hwbrowser root 6356 0.0 0.2 7472 1396 pts/2 S 12:38 0:00 /usr/sbin/userhelper -w hwbrowser root 6360 0.0 0.1 6772 952 pts/2 S 12:38 0:00 /bin/sh /usr/share/hwbrowser/hwbrowser root 6361 8.1 3.3 28276 16976 pts/2 S 12:38 0:01 /usr/bin/python /usr/share/hwbrowser/DeviceList.py ankit 6370 0.0 0.1 5816 660 pts/2 R+ 12:39 0:00 grep hwbrowser [ankit@ankit ~]$ 2. So, i thought i need to kill all other processes also along with hwbrowser. So, [ankit@ankit ~]$ killall -g hwbrowser [1]+ Terminated hwbrowser [ankit@ankit ~]$ ps -aux | grep hwbrowser Warning: bad syntax, perhaps a bogus '-'? See /usr/share/doc/procps-3.2.3/FAQ root 6360 0.0 0.1 6772 952 pts/2 S 12:38 0:00 /bin/sh /usr/share/hwbrowser/hwbrowser root 6361 1.2 3.3 28276 16976 pts/2 S 12:38 0:01 /usr/bin/python /usr/share/hwbrowser/DeviceList.py ankit 6373 0.0 0.1 4652 656 pts/2 R+ 12:40 0:00 grep hwbrowser Still gui of hwbrowser running. If you have run hwbrowser from Menu (gui) then --> All other gui applications closed and gnome-panel restarted. If you have run hwbrowser from same terminal (console) then --> Other gui applications and gnome-panel will not get affected. 3. So, finally i thought i need to be root to kill all the instances of hwbrowser. And, [root@ankit ~]# ps -aux | grep hwbrowser Warning: bad syntax, perhaps a bogus '-'? See /usr/share/doc/procps-3.2.3/FAQ root 6412 0.0 0.1 4656 668 pts/2 S+ 12:47 0:00 grep hwbrowser [root@ankit ~]# Now hwbrowser killed fully... If you have run hwbrowser from Menu (gui) then --> All other gui applications closed and gnome-panel restarted. If you have run hwbrowser from same terminal (console) then --> Other gui applications and gnome-panel will not get affected. This is not specific to hwbrowser only but most of the applications created in python included in fedora-core software. So, i want to know is there any solution to kill hwbrowser(which have been running from Menu(gui) not from the same terminal) without affecting other applications? Thank You! Ankit Patel __________________________________ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com

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FC4 GNOME 2.10 a bit slow on Toshiba Satellite A40
by Yordanis Tornes Medina 05 Oct '05

05 Oct '05

Hi I have a Toshiba Laptop (2.8 GHz, 768 MB RAM, TOSHIBA MK4025GAS 4200 rpm) with Fedora Core 4 (GNOME 2.10) installed, I note that is a slightly slow, for example, when I boot the first time that I click the GNOME menu panel it delay a few seconds in open, during this process my HD reach 100 % of utilization. Any body know why? Greetings ______________________________________________ Renovamos el Correo Yahoo! Nuevos servicios, más seguridad http://correo.yahoo.es

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