desktop August 2010

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12 discussions

adding support for evince back into gnome-python2
by Peter Robinson 01 Sep '10

01 Sep '10

Hi All, It was mentioned a while ago with the delay of gnome 3 we could have evince support back for F-14. Is there anything that's delaying this? Cheers, Peter

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spin kickstart/minimization cleanups
by Peter Robinson 31 Aug '10

31 Aug '10

Hi All, Firstly sorry for the cross post, I think its some what relevant for both. I started this discussion in the F-13 timeframe but it was too late in the cycle and was considered to risky, leading up to the beta it might be a little close too. Looking through the various kickstart files in the git repo while looking at a couple of issues that I'm seeing on my own spins I have a couple of queries. Firstly in fedora-live-minimization.ks and fedora-livecd-desktop.ks there's a whole lot of removal of packages. This is basically what i do in the fedora-live-mini.ks and I think things like @printing can (and should be) removed from base so that other kick starts don't have to explicitly remove everything that it adds in. Its easy enough for the people that want printing to add the one liner into their own kickstart. There's also a comment in the fedora-live-minimization.ks about removing them from comps for F-14. Is there a reason this hasn't happened? I was also suprised to see things like "printing" related things in the base-x group in comps. It looks like someone had this on their todo list, is it still there? Ultimately I would like to get rid of the fedora-live-mini.ks file and use the mainline base. I believe that base should be exactly that... the base/core packages and all the useful scripting. Then possibly have a base-desktop which adds all the core X stuff that any desktop spin would need (plus associated related scripts that all could make use of like X auto login). From there a desktop based spin would just need to pull in the base-desktop.ks to get all the core stuff to get to a minimal X. Thoughts? Peter

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orphaned packages in F-14 need a maintainer
by Bill Nottingham 27 Aug '10

27 Aug '10

The following desktop packages in F-14 are orphaned, and need new maintainers: - gnome-vfsmm26 - libgnomecanvasmm26 - libpanelappletmm - pyorbit Notably, their removals will break orca, gnote, gnome-python2, and assorted other apps. Someone picking them up would be appreciated. Thanks, Bill

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the orca screen reader in f14
by Jonathan Nadeau 26 Aug '10

26 Aug '10

Hello list, I'm a blind Linux user and i'm not sure if this is the right list. I was wondering if you could package speech-dispatcher with orca instead of gnome-speech? The reason why I ask is because orca is working a lot with speech-dispatcher for better performance and by using speech-dispatcher orca works better with pulseaudio. Orca does not work well with gnome-speech if pulseaudio is implamented into the os it causes orca to be delayed with how fast it responds when keyboard commands are given to read the screen or do other actions. In f13 I'm running now but that is only because I had to tweek it to get better performance. If this change was made to speech-dispatcher this would give a better experience out of the box for new users or even blind users who want to switch to Fedora or at least try it out. Thanks for your time and help and all the hard work.

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gnome-desktop comps group
by Peter Robinson 24 Aug '10

24 Aug '10

Hi All, Is there a reason that the gnome-desktop group contains both gnome-2 and gnome-3 desktops? Is it possible to split them out. Its not hard to add both groups into a livecd kickstart file but it makes it much harder to install one or the other. This becomes a problem on the OLPC where we have between 1 and 4 Gb of storage and neither hardware release (nor the upcoming ARM based devices I suspect) will run gnome 3. I tried to install a plain "gnome desktop" from a F-14 alpha RC onto my eeePC 901 which has a 4 Gb primary SSD and in F-13 had Sugar/gnome and moblin on it with about 800Mb free and with F-14 I can't even install the standard gnome desktop as the installer says there's not enough space. Can we do a gnome-desktop for the current gnome2 desktop and a gnome-desktop3 group for the gtk3/gnome3 components as it seems that gnome2 is something that will be needed or used by a number of groups for some time to come. Peter

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Speed up user login into desktop.
by Jóhann B. Guðmundsson 23 Aug '10

23 Aug '10

Given that users will experiences some what faster boot with systemd are there any plans to try to speed up the actual user login time as in from GDM to end user desktop? What's the best method to measure what's taking most of that time? JBG

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Help with talking points
by Paul W. Frields 18 Aug '10

18 Aug '10

Ryan Rix issued a call for talking points here (and elsewhere): http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/marketing/2010-July/013289.html The feature list is somewhat devoid of user-centric features. We know that GNOME 3.0 will not be part of the Fedora 14 release, since it's been deferred until March 2011. I would guess that there will be a separate GNOME 2.32, and that although it may not contain an enormous slew of new user-centric features, it will have some significant improvements and changes. Can anyone summarize some of those for the list, or point us to a URL? -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ Where open source multiplies: http://opensource.com

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big gnome update
by Matthias Clasen 14 Aug '10

14 Aug '10

Hey, I've spent most of yesterday rebuilding things against gtk2, and downgrading packages that needed it, so there is now a big update that brings the gnome in f14 onto the 2.32 track. This update should fix most of the 'mixed gtk2/gtk3' and dconf problems that have been plaguing f14 recently. The one thing still missing is empathy, where the 2.31 version needs a new package that is still under review. I'd appreciate if people could give it a try. Matthias

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Looking for some comaintainers
by Matthias Clasen 07 Aug '10

07 Aug '10

I'd love to have some comaintainers for the yorba apps: shotwell, lombard and fillmore. These are lovely little vala apps and not hard to handle. The current task that needs doing is updating shotwell in rawhide (and possibly F14 too) to 0.6.90, which also requires updating libgexiv2 to 0.1.9. Matthias

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Need Devhelp 2.31.x for Anjuta 2.31.x
by Debarshi Ray 06 Aug '10

06 Aug '10

Anjuta 2.31.x needs Devhelp 2.31.x for one of its plugins. However, looking at Koji, it seems Devhelp has been updated to 2.90.x. What is the recommended way of dealing with this situation? Thanks, Debarshi

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