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Workstation WG Recap 2015-Feb-18
by Paul W. Frields 18 Feb '15

18 Feb '15

Minutes: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2015-02-18/workstation.2015… Minutes (text): http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2015-02-18/workstation.2015… Log: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2015-02-18/workstation.2015… * * * =================================== #fedora-meeting: Fedora Workstation =================================== Meeting started by stickster at 16:00:21 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2015-02-18/workstation.2015… . Meeting summary --------------- * Roll call! (stickster, 16:00:36) * cwickert is stepping down (stickster, 16:07:50) * ACTION: stickster follow up with list to work on filling open seat (stickster, 16:08:13) * F22 feature progress (stickster, 16:09:56) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/LibinputForXorg (stickster, 16:13:03) * F22 Test Days (stickster, 16:17:15) * ACTION: mclasen Post to devel when new notification builds land in F22 to encourage testing (stickster, 16:23:25) * ACTION: stickster Write blog entry for Planet on heels of mclasen post to do likewise (stickster, 16:23:47) * ACTION: rdieter Respond to on-list thread to set up Test Day for libinput... work with hdegoede on details, probably just looking for input device "not working" regressions (stickster, 16:30:20) * ACTION: kalev mclasen Put together Wayland test cases and respond to on-list thread to set up Test Day (stickster, 16:30:37) * ACTION: cschalle_ Talk to fedup maintainers to ensure a Test Day for product -> product upgrades is planned (stickster, 16:36:43) * Anaconda + libpwquality issue (stickster, 16:37:00) * LINK: http://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/cgit/fedora-productimg-workstation.git/tree/f… (kalev, 16:39:03) * LINK: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/test/2015-February/125074.html (stickster, 16:47:52) * LINK: http://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/cgit/fedora-productimg-workstation.git/ (5 hours ago) :-D (stickster, 16:52:36) * Interested folks should attend FESCo meeting today regarding libpwquality issue (stickster, 17:00:59) Meeting ended at 17:01:11 UTC. Action Items ------------ * stickster follow up with list to work on filling open seat * mclasen Post to devel when new notification builds land in F22 to encourage testing * stickster Write blog entry for Planet on heels of mclasen post to do likewise * rdieter Respond to on-list thread to set up Test Day for libinput... work with hdegoede on details, probably just looking for input device "not working" regressions * kalev mclasen Put together Wayland test cases and respond to on-list thread to set up Test Day * cschalle_ Talk to fedup maintainers to ensure a Test Day for product -> product upgrades is planned Action Items, by person ----------------------- * cschalle_ * cschalle_ Talk to fedup maintainers to ensure a Test Day for product -> product upgrades is planned * kalev * kalev mclasen Put together Wayland test cases and respond to on-list thread to set up Test Day * mclasen * mclasen Post to devel when new notification builds land in F22 to encourage testing * stickster Write blog entry for Planet on heels of mclasen post to do likewise * kalev mclasen Put together Wayland test cases and respond to on-list thread to set up Test Day * rdieter * rdieter Respond to on-list thread to set up Test Day for libinput... work with hdegoede on details, probably just looking for input device "not working" regressions * stickster * stickster follow up with list to work on filling open seat * stickster Write blog entry for Planet on heels of mclasen post to do likewise * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * stickster (83) * mclasen (32) * kalev (17) * jwb (17) * rdieter (6) * otaylor (6) * zodbot (5) * cwickert (5) * cschalle_ (5) * sgallagh (1) * mclasen__ (1) * satellit (1) * juhp (0) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ The open source story continues to grow: http://opensource.com

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ABRT changes for Fedora Workstation (22 and further)
by Bastien Nocera 17 Feb '15

17 Feb '15

Hey, Before the end of year holidays, Allan and I went to Brno to meet up with the ABRT team, in order to see what could be done to integrate ABRT and gnome-abrt better into Fedora Workstation, and into GNOME. We now have a number of TODO items, which can be worked on incrementally, which I will list below. - ABRT: - https://github.com/abrt/abrt/milestones/Fedora%2022 - https://github.com/abrt/abrt/issues/891 - https://github.com/abrt/abrt/issues/887 - gnome-abrt: - https://github.com/abrt/gnome-abrt/issues - GNOME: - https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=742375 - Retrace server: - Make it possible to filter by Fedora product (Workstation, Server, Cloud) - Longer-term: - Using gnome-abrt for better SELinux notifications - "Merge" local and remote retracing into one: - https://github.com/abrt/abrt/issues/832 - Look into privacy policies (what happens when Fedora contributors start leaking information about a user's choice of documents in a bug report?) Allan will be working on finalising the gnome-abrt mockups so that Jakub Filak can work on the gnome-abrt issues. He will also be documenting common workflows between server and desktop to share with the ABRT and Cockpit teams. I'll be working on the GNOME Settings part of the equation in a couple of days, and will likely shift to ABRT or gnome-abrt issues further down the line. Cheers

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About making life easier for audio producers.
by Diogo Campos 16 Feb '15

16 Feb '15

First of all: I understand that the PRD says that Fedora Workstation focuses on developers, and, I also know about the Fedora Jam-KDE Spin... That said, the fact is that, right now, in Fedora 21 Workstation, is simply frustrating to open (for example) Ardour and watch the whole thing dependent on PulseAudio go mute, and JACK initialize with (serious?) errors/warnings/misconfigurations(?), like: [ERROR]: JACK: Cannot use real-time scheduling (RR/15)(1: Operação não permitida) [ERROR]: JACK: JackClient::AcquireSelfRealTime error So, the thing is: there would be a way to make JACK and PulseAudio work together out-of-the-box in Fedora Workstation 22+? Of course, I am suggesting this because I really think that an audio producer (beginner, amateur or professional) isn't interested in dealing with sound systems, sound servers, packages, config files and technical documentation just to make their audio tools work (well). What do you think? There is interest? Is worth the work? Any ideas? Am I missing something? (really sorry for English)

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Re: Emoji font in default installation?
by Peter Oliver 11 Feb '15

11 Feb '15

On 10 February 2015 at 14:31, Nicolas Mailhot <nicolas.mailhot(a)laposte.net> wrote: > Not to mention that to be actually useful, color support must exist on > both sides of the conversation (and the Google solution is not the only > one one the market). Sure, this is Google's attempt at encoding colour into fonts, but the characters themselves are ordinary Unicode characters, so interoperability between IM participants doesn't seem to be a particular problem, to me. Emoji look different from phone to phone and from website to website, but people mostly seem to cope fine with that. > Probably too early to set it as defaut, at best as a > dep of the first Fedora IM client that can make use of it. And then remove > the dep when it's no longer experimental-ish Let's not get hung up on the fact that the font I suggested happens to encode colour. I can receive emoji IMs today via Gnome Shell's notifications. I guess the questions I'm asking are: are emoji now sufficiently common that we should include by default a font that can display them? If yes, what is the most suitable font for that? -- Peter Oliver

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Re: Emoji font in default installation?
by Matthew Miller 10 Feb '15

10 Feb '15

On Tue, Feb 10, 2015 at 03:31:31PM +0100, Nicolas Mailhot wrote: > Not to mention that to be actually useful, color support must exist on > both sides of the conversation (and the Google solution is not the only > one one the market). Probably too early to set it as defaut, at best as a > dep of the first Fedora IM client that can make use of it. And then remove > the dep when it's no longer experimental-ish IM clients aren't the only use. I use 'em in my prompt for various status information in a compact form, and I'd really apprecaite color emojis in the terminal. We could use them in `ls -F` (or an extended equivalent), too. Someday. :) -- Matthew Miller <mattdm(a)fedoraproject.org> Fedora Project Leader

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Emoji font in default installation?
by Peter Oliver 08 Feb '15

08 Feb '15

I got a request at https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1049076 suggesting that google-android-emoji-fonts be included in the default Fedora installation. It seems reasonable to me that we should have a font with emoji coverage in the default Workstation installation, and I don't think there is one at the moment. We have google-noto-color-emoji-fonts in Fedora 22, however, and I'd suggest going with that instead. Any thoughts? -- Peter Oliver

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mozjs24 porting?
by Bastien Nocera 06 Feb '15

06 Feb '15

Hey Kalev, I was wondering what the status was on: http://code.google.com/p/libproxy/issues/detail?id=210 and https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=74592 Seems that you already managed to get PolicyKit going. Maybe it's time we switched to the new version so we can remove the old mozjs17 from the repositories. Cheers

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Re: Call for Fedora 22 Test Days
by M. Edward (Ed) Borasky 04 Feb '15

04 Feb '15

I'm at a point in my project cycle where it would be relatively painless for me to switch my laptop from Fedora 21 Workstation to Rawhide. That would mean all the abrt and selinux traps I take will feed into the QA machine, and any bugs I find in the desktop, Docker and libvirt will get filed. At least that's the case until the F22 branch, right? When is the branch scheduled? I'd rather not make a separate virtual machine for testing at the moment; I've got too many Docker things to do to add an F22 machine. But I can switch my laptop to Rawhide (or F22) without losing much productivity. On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 4:13 PM, Mike Ruckman <roshi(a)fedoraproject.org> wrote: > Another testing cycle is finally upon us, and it's about time we got > some Test Days scheduled for the F22 cycle. The Anaconda team has > already requested a test day [0] and there are several other changes > coming to F22 that could use some testing love - a full list can be > found here: > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/22/ChangeSet > > F22 also has several self-contained changes that could use some testing. > So my thought was, if there were things people would like to get tested, > but didn't think it warranted an entire day - then we could group these > together and run a test day to poke at several different things at the > same time. Thoughts on this? > > For those of you not familiar with test days, a test day is an > online event aimed at testing a specific feature of an upcoming Fedora > Release. By utilizing IRC for organization/coordination and a Wiki > page for instructions and results, test days are easy to organize. > Anyone can request to host a test day or request that the QA team help > you out with the organization of the test day. A test day can be ran > for any feature or area of a distribution that focused testing would be > useful for. More information on test days can be found here: > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Test_Days . > > To propose a test day, file a ticket on the QA Trac. A full > explanation can be found here: > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Test_Days/Create . The SOP for > hosting a test day is here: > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/SOP_Test_Day_management . > > Traditionally test days have been held on Thursdays, but if you'd prefer > to have it on another day that's fine too. We're pretty flexible, but > having plenty of lead time helps to get the word out. Just put in your > ticket the date or time-frame you'd like, and we'll figure it out from > there. > > If you have any questions about test days or the process, please don't > hesitate to contact me or any other QA Team member in #fedora-qa on > Freenode or respond on the test list. > > Thanks and happy testing! > > [0] https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-qa/ticket/457 > > -- > // Mike > -- > Fedora QA > freenode: roshi > http://roshi.fedorapeople.org > _______________________________________________ > cloud mailing list > cloud(a)lists.fedoraproject.org > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/cloud > Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct -- OSJourno: Robust Power Tools for Digital Journalists http://www.znmeb.mobi/stories/osjourno-robust-power-tools-for-digital-journ… Remember, if you're traveling to Bactria, Hump Day is Tuesday and Thursday.

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Meeting on 2015-Feb-04?
by Paul W. Frields 04 Feb '15

04 Feb '15

A bunch of us will be in Brno on Wednesday 2015-Feb-04 for some Red Hat company meetings. Do we still want to hold the Workstation WG meeting per usual at 1600 UTC (11:00 EST, 17:00 Brno time) that day? -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ The open source story continues to grow: http://opensource.com

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