desktop April 2015

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any interest in a fedora branded sound theme
by kendell clark 04 Apr '15

04 Apr '15

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 hi all I've been thinking about this for a couple of weeks. Is there any interest in a fedora branded freedesktop compliant sound theme, possibly to go on the workstation image? I'd be glad to either take on this task myself or help produce one. I'm reasonably knowledgeable in the freedesktop sound spec so can make a pretty complete sound theme if anyone is interested. Do the fedora packaging guidelines apply to system sounds as well EG, no proprietary sounds from windows and/or mac? Thanks for reading Kendell clark Sent from Fedora GNU/Linux -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJVFeiKAAoJEGYgJ5/kqBTdP5EQAJg7Y4RUHsZAxj2lXnounHML I3X9ZlTws5k3ilwFZMIwmYnoUCKGoOpnfbrz1e4uVH9drBJnHUL1ASsjdf0AZqwm er6y/ZZL4uidR7Xeh1ZrKkud7EUGGKnx16QrrylamD8pMWWiu/VOtW+ugu/YEZnV zv4Iv9mg6BK15VSyqsUjcSgDIDjjiVOPXtr7vaLmgZ4WrODZ4LVzTemAQOhzytQI uP40tWw6khX3mg5lSu6584vFPJJ3b7OynzDUCdH9EtKz1p2bgeWGrDPYVf1uX3HC Swc6NCNi/ZALTll/DzA5rJnppXtlhmrtzChba35RIuQ/zhbZzWdf2pPVWYNNX5sx Hbd3aSS70+hbva5wVv0IX906lbp8LVheH014JOpvQoZWcVshIdyk3/8PSPyNSraa 4KcOAPhE+QIBWt+E33GJ1iUhHSq3PCtgxSWB+sPhDhxmFcKlIqHYNibiO2H/9v1w H4Muej7xzBCUNehDQbHpu7f8CEk8/DJ7Le/1JPEw6a44FRWZMuTNarYQXOto3G3p ew2pdXlTbptg0oTyKx3H7YmF03ir4vNeQB1huY+QkvyXL08PEOnrvL/gdoCXOy1V nMentzwYvoFSzakBiukALAPW4Pen40apxkmO9xlnb3nhWSnQAaate2eIcosMTwpl 5AnPyHvjk3+Uw0WMVgBP =zgyN -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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re: Summary of Reddit thread
by Chris Murphy 03 Apr '15

03 Apr '15

Christian Schaller cschalle at redhat.com Thu Apr 2 14:19:55 UTC 2015 > I think a lot of these items are things we are already aware of and trying to fix, but of course not all of them are easily fixable, like access to proprietary Windows or MacOS X applications or similar hotkeys/behaviour across UI toolkits. I think we made some great strides in the stability department, but reading the reddit thread did reinforce that it is an area we need to keep focus going forward. > Stability and polish seems challenging with two releases per year, each one with only 13 months of security updates. Conversely on OS X it's one year with software updates, 2-3 years of security updates, and yet new application versions work on at least 2 major OS X versions if not 3 or 4. Fedora churn emphases newness over stability and polish as features. Another is whether a Linux distro, including Fedora, is an OS or just a collection of packages? I see more emphasis on components, rather than how it fits into a whole. Apple has its walled garden in the form of proprietary software, but FOSS puts upstreams into walled gardens of their own, essentially immunized from feature requests let alone anything approaching insistence. In a recent installer password quality thread on the security@ list, mitr writes "All of this just takes a willingness to look at a dozen components at a time instead of at a single one, and a willingness to write patches that sum up to thousand lines instead of a single five-line patch." https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/security/2015-February/002079.html And I'd extrapolate that to the entire OS. Are there generalists with the distro's vision, and political capital to inform and convince upstreams in a cooperative manner? The component specialists really don't seem to have this interest, outside of the desktop environments. I think Fedora should not model itself after, or chase the IDE mentality of Apple or Microsoft. In my view, it isn't really free anyway, just because of a licensing difference. It's only made really free by bridging the already large and widening gap between the application developer and user. The opposite almost happened [1], but those companies abandoned that path. So quite honestly, I'd say, screw these other models of development, all you can hope for replicating them with a different frosting but the substance will still amount to the same thing and for that, why bother? [1] http://thetrendythings.com/read/20042 -- Chris Murphy

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Workstation WG Recap 2015-Mar-31
by Paul W. Frields 01 Apr '15

01 Apr '15

Minutes: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2015-04-01/workstation.2015… Minutes (text): http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2015-04-01/workstation.2015… Log: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2015-04-01/workstation.2015… * * * ====================================== #fedora-meeting: Fedora Workstation WG ====================================== Meeting started by stickster at 15:00:06 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2015-04-01/workstation.2015… . Meeting summary --------------- * Roll call! (stickster, 15:00:16) * pwquality changes (stickster, 15:04:03) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/1412 (stickster, 15:06:21) * LINK: https://github.com/rhinstaller/anaconda/pull/59 should get merged today (sgallagh, 15:06:49) * AGREED: The restored override takes care of F22 situation from Workstation WG POV (stickster, 15:14:48) * F23 pwquality changes (stickster, 15:16:04) * LINK: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel/2015-March/208845.html <-- my argument that local password strength doesn't really affect security (mcatanzaro, 15:22:07) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Kevin/Draft_Passwordpolicy (sgallagh, 15:24:44) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Kevin/Draft_Passwordpolicy (stickster, 15:24:55) * ACTION: kalev work with tmraz to figure out appropriate pwquality.conf settings, may need some input from group on desired strength (stickster, 15:43:58) * Maps (stickster, 15:44:08) * AGREED: leave Maps in for now (stickster, 16:00:28) * Next meeting at new timeslot -- Monday April 13, 9:00am US-EDT / 1300 UTC (stickster, 16:01:26) Meeting ended at 16:01:30 UTC. Action Items ------------ * kalev work with tmraz to figure out appropriate pwquality.conf settings, may need some input from group on desired strength Action Items, by person ----------------------- * kalev * kalev work with tmraz to figure out appropriate pwquality.conf settings, may need some input from group on desired strength * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * stickster (73) * mclasen_ (39) * mcatanzaro (22) * kalev (22) * sgallagh (18) * jwb (8) * rdieter (6) * Corey84 (6) * zodbot (5) * otaylor (3) * cschalle_ (3) * drago01 (1) * striker (1) * rdieter_work (0) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ The open source story continues to grow: http://opensource.com

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New Workstation WG meeting time
by Paul W. Frields 01 Apr '15

01 Apr '15

I set up a meeting time survey at whenisgood.net. All WG members, please visit and indicate your availability: http://whenisgood.net/f-ws-wg-201503 I'll collect all the responses by end of the day next Monday, 2015-Mar-23. -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ The open source story continues to grow: http://opensource.com

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Request to include gnome-maps by default in F22
by Debarshi Ray 01 Apr '15

01 Apr '15

Hey, Allan and I would like to include gnome-maps in the default Workstation installation in Fedora 22. It is a nice little core GNOME application (like Clocks and Weather) that has come a long way. In GNOME 3.16 (ie. Fedora 22), it has Foursquare and Facebook integration for check-ins. Having the application in the default installation would let us turn on the the Foursquare provider in gnome-online-accounts. Otherwise, users will be looking at an option that they can't use out of the box, which is bad. Thanks, Debarshi

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