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Fedora Release Engineering Status Report for F27 Deliverables
by Kate Carcia 19 Oct '17

19 Oct '17

Hi all, Please take a peak of the status report below which highlights ongoing F27 work the Fedora release engineering team is focusing on. Don't hesitate to reach out if you have questions. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ReleaseEngineering/StatusReport#17OCT2017 KAITLYN CARCIA PROJECT MANAGER, RCM Red Hat Westford <https://www.redhat.com/> T: +1-857-770-0448- M: +1-978-604-8667 IM: katec <https://red.ht/sig>

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final blocker 1491320 - either mutter or gnome-boxes need to be adjusted
by Kamil Paral 19 Oct '17

19 Oct '17

I've already tried to contact people on IRC, but I was getting "we don't care, go away" feeling. So, once again, just to make sure Workstation SIG is aware. There's this blocker: heavy screen flicker with latest kernels in qxl+spice VM https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1491320 We don't have much time until F27 Final release [1]. The kernel folks are not sure if this can be fixed easily or quickly. It would help if software stack could be adjusted to avoid this issue: a) gnome-boxes and virt-manager defaulting to virtio-vga instead of qxl b) mutter falling back to xorg when qxl driver is detected It would be great if we didn't have to deal with this at the very last day, so please, look into this. I expect a) to be quite easy, but please note this will not fix the problem for anyone using an already created VM, or using a different distribution. Those will still see F27 Workstation with horrible flickering display. b) would help with that, but I assume that's a bit more work. Thanks, Kamil [1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/27/Schedule

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Talking points for F27
by Paul W. Frields 12 Oct '17

12 Oct '17

Hi all, I've started edits on this section of the Talking Points page for Fedora 27: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_27_talking_points#Fedora_Workstation WG members (and others), please visit the page and contribute some information about features for the upcoming F27 release. This helps not only the community Marketing team, but also Ambassadors who arrange release parties and evangelize the release worldwide. Thank you! -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ The open source story continues to grow: http://opensource.com

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Please test updated f27-backgrounds
by Luya Tshimbalanga 11 Oct '17

11 Oct '17

Design Team updated f27-backgrounds ready for testing: https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/f27-backgrounds-27.0.1-1.fc27 Please add or subtract karmas for positive or negative result. Thanks -- Luya Tshimbalanga Graphic & Web Designer E: luya(a)fedoraproject.org W: http://www.coolest-storm.net

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Reproducer for bug #1390198
by Jan Kurik 11 Oct '17

11 Oct '17

Hi, we are currently struggling with an issue causing TopIcons Plus, a Gnome Shell extension, to crash [1][2]. As this is a serious issue possibly affecting many users I would like to ask the Workstation WG for a help. At the moment we need a reliable reproducer. If you can reproduce, or even if you can reliably crash with this extension enabled and reliably get no crashes without, that would be helpful feedback in the upstream tracker. [1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1390198 [2] https://github.com/phocean/TopIcons-plus/issues/73 Thanks a lot for any hep, Jan -- Jan Kuřík Platform & Fedora Program Manager Red Hat Czech s.r.o., Purkynova 99/71, 612 45 Brno, Czech Republic

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Fedora 27 Talking Points - Workstation WG
by Jan Kurik 10 Oct '17

10 Oct '17

As we are getting closer to the F27 Final release, I would like to ask members of the Workstation WG to revisit and finalize Talking Points for the F27 Workstation release. This helps not only the community Marketing team, but also Ambassadors who arrange release parties and evangelize the release worldwide. [1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_27_talking_points#Fedora_Workstation Thank you, Jan -- Jan Kuřík Platform & Fedora Program Manager Red Hat Czech s.r.o., Purkynova 99/71, 612 45 Brno, Czech Republic

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pulseaudio (11.1) rebase for f26 ?
by Rex Dieter 09 Oct '17

09 Oct '17

I'm strongly considering working on rebasing the latest pulseaudio-11.1 release for f26. I believe 11.1 included some good bluetooth related improvements. Any comments or objections? Anyone interested in testing things can use: https://copr.fedorainfracloud.org/coprs/rdieter/pulseaudio/ -- Rex

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Workstation WG meeting recap 2017-Oct-09
by Paul W. Frields 09 Oct '17

09 Oct '17

Minutes: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2017-10-09/workstation.2… Minutes (text): https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2017-10-09/workstation.2… Log: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2017-10-09/workstation.2… * * * ================================= #fedora-meeting-2: Workstation WG ================================= Meeting started by stickster at 13:00:05 UTC. The full logs are available at https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2017-10-09/workstation.2… . Meeting summary --------------- * Roll call (stickster, 13:00:10) * LINK: https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2017-69737f8a58 (kalev, 13:03:13) * Housekeeping (stickster, 13:03:19) * stickster has to leave at :30 today to run another IRL meeting (stickster, 13:03:47) * Please try and karm up the GNOME 3.26.1 megaupdate (stickster, 13:04:25) * --- Agenda for today --- (stickster, 13:04:43) * LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issues?status=Open&tags=meeting (stickster, 13:04:44) * Langpack installation (stickster, 13:05:20) * LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/27 (stickster, 13:05:28) * AGREED: APPROVED: Add libreoffice-langpack-* to Workstation compose (+1: 5, 0: 0, -1: 0) (stickster, 13:10:00) * There is more to decide here, but it's a bigger discussion and we'll come back to this ticket (stickster, 13:10:19) * Update frequency (stickster, 13:10:59) * LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/28 (stickster, 13:11:07) * LINK: https://rungehoc.wordpress.com/2017/08/07/bodhi-101-an-updates-life-cycle/ (kalev, 13:18:17) * LINK: https://bug709121.bugzilla-attachments.gnome.org/attachment.cgi?id=256126 (mclasen, 13:19:48) * We agree we don't want to annoy the user with non-urgent updates, but need more clarity on how this logic or timing is working/non-working (stickster, 13:29:47) * bodhi batches non-urgent updates weekly, which helps (stickster, 13:30:43) * ACTION: mclasen bring this to hughsie to figure out whether there is a gnome-software improvement to be had here (stickster, 13:31:21) Meeting ended at 13:34:03 UTC. Action Items ------------ * mclasen bring this to hughsie to figure out whether there is a gnome-software improvement to be had here Action Items, by person ----------------------- * mclasen * mclasen bring this to hughsie to figure out whether there is a gnome-software improvement to be had here * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * stickster (56) * zodbot (15) * mclasen (15) * rdieter (14) * kalev (12) * ryanlerch (11) * otaylor (10) * cschalle (1) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ The open source story continues to grow: http://opensource.com

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[Fedocal] Reminder meeting : Workstation WG
by stickster＠gmail.com 07 Oct '17

07 Oct '17

Dear all, You are kindly invited to the meeting: Workstation WG on 2017-10-09 from 09:00:00 to 10:00:00 America/New_York At fedora-meeting-2(a)irc.freenode.net The meeting will be about: Regular meeting for the Workstation Working Group. Agenda: [https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issues?status=Open&tags=meeting](https… More information available at: [https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Workstation](https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/… Source: https://apps.fedoraproject.org/calendar/meeting/6411/

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Could we make “Noto Color Emoji” the default emoji font instead of “Emoji One”?
by Mike FABIAN 05 Oct '17

05 Oct '17

Hi, Currently, the “Noto Color Emoji” font works much better than “Emoji One”. “Emoji One” supports emoji only up to Unicode 9.0.0 whereas “Noto Color Emoji” supports the new emoji in Unicode 10.0.0. So at the very least we should install the “google-noto-emoji-color-fonts” package by default so that even when “Emoji One” is preferred in the fontconfig setup, the emoji which are lacking in “Emoji One” are displayed using “Noto Color Emoji” as a fallback instead of displaying replacement boxes. On top of that, “Emoji One” doesn’t display many sequences correctly which were already in Unicode 9.0.0, as one can see in this screenshot: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/attachment.cgi?id=1331892 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1496761 Bug 1496761 - "Noto Color Emoji" would be a better default emoji font than "Emoji One" So even if “Noto Color Emoji” is installed, many emoji sequences are displayed incorrectly if “Emoji One” is preferred in the fontconfig setup. Therefore, I think it would be nice to make “Noto Color Emoji” the preferred font in our fontconfig setup to make all emoji sequences render correctly. There is a fork of “Emoji One” called “Emoji Two” https://github.com/EmojiTwo/emojitwo https://emojitwo.github.io/ > “Version 2 of the Emojione set is no longer supported by EmojiOne > Inc. (nor Ranks.com) Version 3 has a slightly different design and new, > more restrictive licensing terms. Access to high-resolution bitmaps and > vector sources is now restricted to paying customers. Some people prefer > the flat cartoon design and the FOSS license with actual access to the > SVG sources. Therefore, we created a fork of Emojione version 2.2.7 as > Emojitwo with initial version 2.3. The artwork of this second generation > of the web’s first complete open source emoji set is and will stay 100% > free.” > > [...] > > Plans > > Emojitwo shall eventually include graphics for new emojis: > > • Characters defined in the Unicode Standard 10.0 (June 2017) and later. > • Sequences documented in Unicode Emoji 4.0 (November 2016, UTR#51), > e.g. gender variants. > • Characters extended in Unicode Emoji 5.0 (May 2017) and later (UTS#51), > e.g. flags. > [...] “Noto Color Emoji” already supports all this stuff now and it may take a long time until “Emoji Two” will support this. So I think “Noto Color Emoji” would be a better default for us at the moment. -- Mike FABIAN <mfabian(a)redhat.com> 睡眠不足はいい仕事の敵だ。

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