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Workstation WG meeting, 2 August (secretary: Neal)
by Allan Day 02 Aug '22

02 Aug '22

Hi all, The next meeting of the Fedora Workstation Working Group is planned for Tuesday 2 August, at 9.30 EDT. Join links: - https://bluejeans.com/395383051/ - https://www.bluejeans.com/numbers See below for the agenda. Allan -- Agenda #topic F37 release status GNOME 43 beta will start to appear this week GNOME 43 release notes are starting to be assembled: https://gitlab.gnome.org/Teams/Engagement/release-notes/-/issues/41 #topic Continuously available rawhide+GNOME mainline test images #link https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/311 #topic Update the QA tests cases for the preinstalled workstation apps #link https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/310 #topic Evaluate the state of gnome-contacts #link https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/307 #topic Announcements, Status Updates #info The minutes from last week have been posted. #link https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2022-07-27/workstation.2…

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Fedora Workstation WG minutes, 2022-07-26
by Chris Murphy 27 Jul '22

27 Jul '22

============================================== #fedora-meeting-2: Workstation WG (2022-07-26) ============================================== Meeting started by brainycmurf at 01:31:53 UTC. The full logs are available at https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2022-07-27/workstation.2… . Meeting summary --------------- * Present members: Michael, Kalev, Tom, Chris, Jens, Owen, Allan (brainycmurf, 01:32:16) * Guests: Zac, Maira (brainycmurf, 01:32:16) * Regrets: Matthias, Neal (brainycmurf, 01:32:16) * Missing: (brainycmurf, 01:32:16) * Secretary: Tomáš (brainycmurf, 01:32:16) * Work on a new appindicator protocol (brainycmurf, 01:32:17) * LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/264 (brainycmurf, 01:32:19) * Announcements, Status Updates (brainycmurf, 01:32:27) * The minutes from last week have been posted. (brainycmurf, 01:32:32) * LINK: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2022-07-20/workstation.2… (brainycmurf, 01:32:34) Meeting ended at 01:33:04 UTC. Action Items ------------ Action Items, by person ----------------------- * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * brainycmurf (17) * zodbot (7) * Allan (0) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.4 .. _`MeetBot`: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Zodbot#Meeting_Functions

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Workstation WG meeting today, 26 July (secretary: Tomáš)
by Allan Day 26 Jul '22

26 Jul '22

The next meeting of the Fedora Workstation Working Group is planned for today (Tuesday 26 July), at 9.30 EDT. Join links: - https://bluejeans.com/395383051/ - https://www.bluejeans.com/numbers See below for the agenda. Allan -- Agenda #topic Work on a new appindicator protocol #link https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/264 #topic Announcements, Status Updates #info The minutes from last week have been posted. #link https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2022-07-20/workstation.2…

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GNOME 43.alpha builds in rawhide
by Kalev Lember 20 Jul '22

20 Jul '22

Hi all, I'm back from my vacation and taking over GNOME builds and coordination again this cycle (David King handled GNOME 42 builds during the last cycle). Upstream is busily releasing 43.alpha and we need to get our downstream builds done as well. We have a f37-gnome side tag for builds, which should help make sure we keep rawhide breakage minimum (we can verify that things roughly work before merging it). This cycle the complicating elements seem to be: - continued porting from gtk 3 to gtk 4 - libsoup to libsoup3 transition - gnome-desktop3 and gnome-desktop4 soname bumps The last two in particular affect much more consumers than just GNOME so we need to be a bit careful here. Michael already filed a Change Proposal for libsoup3 and it should hopefully get approved by FESCo soon: https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/2829 Once we have FESCo approval for libsoup3 transition, I intend to go full steam ahead with GNOME 43.alpha and libsoup3 builds. I have already done a few in the side tag, but the rest is so tangled up that I think it's easier to wait a bit. If you are helping with builds, please use 'fedpkg build --target f37-gnome'. There's no need to use it if the update really is stand alone, but if it's tangled up in the rest of the GNOME update in some way, please use the side tag so we can ensure we don't break rawhide. Thanks for attention and thanks for the help! Kalev

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Fedora Workstation WG minutes, 2022-07-19
by Chris Murphy 19 Jul '22

19 Jul '22

============================================== #fedora-meeting-2: Workstation WG (2022-07-19) ============================================== Meeting started by brainycmurf at 00:29:44 UTC. The full logs are available at https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2022-07-20/workstation.2… . Meeting summary --------------- * Present members: Michael, Chris, Owen, Allan, Kalev (brainycmurf, 00:29:59) * Guests: Luna (bittin) (brainycmurf, 00:29:59) * Regrets: Matthias, Neal, Jens, Tomáš (brainycmurf, 00:29:59) * Missing: (brainycmurf, 00:29:59) * Secretary: Chris (brainycmurf, 00:29:59) * Unfiltered Flathub (brainycmurf, 00:30:00) * LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/300 (brainycmurf, 00:30:04) * LINK: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2022-07-12/fesco.2022-07-1… (brainycmurf, 00:30:06) * Status update: FESCO rejected the change, we'll revisit and address the issues, and is deferred until F38. (brainycmurf, 00:30:08) * F37 release schedule (brainycmurf, 00:30:11) * LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/312 (brainycmurf, 00:30:13) * This is a bit early, but useful to review and make sure we're on the same page with GNOME and Fedora QA folks being available. (brainycmurf, 00:30:21) * Improve the user feedback for OOM situations (brainycmurf, 00:30:45) * LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/202 (brainycmurf, 00:30:47) * ACTION: Chris will ask around, systemd folks for a dbus api, and for a desktop developer for advice on other next steps. (brainycmurf, 00:30:57) * LINK: https://github.com/systemd/systemd/issues/23606 (brainycmurf, 00:31:00) * Stale pending-action tickets (brainycmurf, 00:31:04) * Automatically install the OpenH264 codecs (brainycmurf, 00:31:06) * LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/84 (brainycmurf, 00:31:08) * Broadcom wireless (brainycmurf, 00:31:14) * LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/116 (brainycmurf, 00:31:16) * ACTION: Chris still plans to do a quickdoc on a subset of the issue (brainycmurf, 00:31:18) * 2m shutdown timer is too long (brainycmurf, 00:31:20) * LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/163 (brainycmurf, 00:31:22) * AGREED: should be 15 seconds, and we'll ask systemd devs how to do this for Workstation/desktops (brainycmurf, 00:31:26) * ACTION: Michael to comment in the ticket (brainycmurf, 00:31:28) * Announcements, Status Updates (brainycmurf, 00:31:30) * The minutes from last week have been posted. (brainycmurf, 00:31:34) * LINK: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2022-07-12/workstation.2… (brainycmurf, 00:31:36) * GUADEC week this week in Mexico and Online with talks and the GNOME AGM (brainycmurf, 00:31:39) * LINK: https://events.gnome.org/event/77/ (brainycmurf, 00:31:41) Meeting ended at 02:06:05 UTC. Action Items ------------ * Chris will ask around, systemd folks for a dbus api, and for a desktop developer for advice on other next steps. * Chris still plans to do a quickdoc on a subset of the issue * Michael to comment in the ticket Action Items, by person ----------------------- * **UNASSIGNED** * Chris will ask around, systemd folks for a dbus api, and for a desktop developer for advice on other next steps. * Chris still plans to do a quickdoc on a subset of the issue * Michael to comment in the ticket People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * brainycmurf (49) * zodbot (7) * Allan (0) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.4 .. _`MeetBot`: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Zodbot#Meeting_Functions

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Workstation WG meeting, 19 July (secretary: Tomáš)
by Allan Day 19 Jul '22

19 Jul '22

Hi all, The next meeting of the Fedora Workstation Working Group is planned for Tuesday 19 July, at 9.30 EDT. Join links: - https://bluejeans.com/395383051/ - https://www.bluejeans.com/numbers See below for the agenda. Allan -- Agenda #topic Unfiltered Flathub #link https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/300 Status update: this has been deferred until F38. #topic F37 release schedule #link https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/312 Does the F37 schedule look OK? Assignees for F37 tasks (do we want to have a named workstation release person?) Does the schedule template look OK? #topic Improve the user feedback for OOM situations #link https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/202 This seems to have stalled. Anything we can do? #topic Stale pending-action tickets #topic Automatically install the OpenH264 codecs #link https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/84 #topic Broadcom wireless #link https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/116 #topic 2m shutdown timer is too long #link https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/163 #topic Announcements, Status Updates #info The minutes from last week have been posted. #link https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2022-07-12/workstation.2…

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Fedora Workstation WG minutes, 2022-07-12
by Chris Murphy 12 Jul '22

12 Jul '22

============================================== #fedora-meeting-2: Workstation WG (2022-07-12) ============================================== Meeting started by brainycmurf at 19:51:43 UTC. The full logs are available at https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2022-07-12/workstation.2… . Meeting summary --------------- * Present members: Michael, Neal, Allan, Kalev, Tomas, Jens, Matthias, Chris (brainycmurf, 19:52:04) * Guests: Zac, Maira (brainycmurf, 19:52:04) * Regrets: (brainycmurf, 19:52:04) * Missing: (brainycmurf, 19:52:04) * Secretary: Jens (brainycmurf, 19:52:04) * Drop Flathub filtering (brainycmurf, 19:52:05) * LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/300 (brainycmurf, 19:52:07) * Improve GTK4 font rendering by default for 1080p displays (brainycmurf, 19:52:22) * LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/295 (brainycmurf, 19:52:24) * LINK: https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gtk/-/issues/3787 (brainycmurf, 19:52:26) * ACTION: Michael to update the ticket with comparison screenshots using latest GTK (brainycmurf, 19:52:49) * Review stale pending-action tickets (brainycmurf, 19:52:51) * Remove photos from the default apps (brainycmurf, 19:52:53) * LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/164 (brainycmurf, 19:52:55) * Add VS Code to the 3rd party repos (brainycmurf, 19:53:01) * LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/283 (brainycmurf, 19:53:03) * Graphical recovery environment (brainycmurf, 19:53:09) * LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/288 (brainycmurf, 19:53:11) * ACTION: Chris to take over research to come up with use cases, technical design options. (brainycmurf, 19:53:32) * Enable full-preemption (brainycmurf, 19:53:34) * LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/228 (brainycmurf, 19:53:36) * ACTION: Chris to dig into it and see about how we can do testing. (brainycmurf, 19:53:45) * LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/261 (brainycmurf, 19:53:53) * LINK: https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/gnome-console (brainycmurf, 19:54:01) * ACTION: Michael to talk to the maintainer about the lack of stable release (brainycmurf, 19:54:03) * ACTION: Allan to continue pushing to get the features we want (brainycmurf, 19:54:05) * Automatically install the OpenH264 codecs (brainycmurf, 19:54:07) * LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/84 (brainycmurf, 19:54:09) * Broadcom wireless (brainycmurf, 19:54:13) * LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/116 (brainycmurf, 19:54:15) * 2m shutdown timer is too long (brainycmurf, 19:54:21) * LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/163 (brainycmurf, 19:54:23) * Announcements, Status Updates (brainycmurf, 19:54:27) * The minutes from last week have been posted. (brainycmurf, 19:54:29) * LINK: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2022-07-05/workstation.2… (brainycmurf, 19:54:31) * LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-hatch-2022-rochester (brainycmurf, 19:54:36) Meeting ended at 19:54:42 UTC. Action Items ------------ * Michael to update the ticket with comparison screenshots using latest GTK * Chris to take over research to come up with use cases, technical design options. * Chris to dig into it and see about how we can do testing. * Michael to talk to the maintainer about the lack of stable release * Allan to continue pushing to get the features we want Action Items, by person ----------------------- * Allan * Allan to continue pushing to get the features we want * **UNASSIGNED** * Michael to update the ticket with comparison screenshots using latest GTK * Chris to take over research to come up with use cases, technical design options. * Chris to dig into it and see about how we can do testing. * Michael to talk to the maintainer about the lack of stable release People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * brainycmurf (78) * zodbot (7) * Allan (0) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.4 .. _`MeetBot`: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Zodbot#Meeting_Functions

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Workstation WG meeting, 12 July (secretary: Jens)
by Allan Day 11 Jul '22

11 Jul '22

Hi all, The next meeting of the Fedora Workstation Working Group is planned for Tuesday 12 July, at 9.30 EDT. Join links: - https://bluejeans.com/395383051/ - https://www.bluejeans.com/numbers See below for the agenda. Allan -- Agenda #topic Drop flathub filtering #link https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/300 Please document any objections to the current plan on the ticket. Any news on the vendor preference? Do we have a plan for IDEs? #topic Improve GTK4 font rendering by default for 1080p displays #link https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/295 #topic Review stale pending-action tickets Remove photos from the default apps #link https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/164 Add VS Code to the 3rd party repos #link https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/283 Graphical recovery environment #link https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/288 Enable full-preemption #link https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/228 GNOME Terminal > GNOME Console #link https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/261 Automatically install the OpenH264 codecs #link https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/84 Broadcom wireless #link https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/116 #topic Announcements, Status Updates #info The minutes from last week have been posted. #link https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2022-07-05/workstation.2…

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Fedora Workstation WG minutes, 2022-07-05
by Chris Murphy 05 Jul '22

05 Jul '22

============================================== #fedora-meeting-2: Workstation WG (2022-07-05) ============================================== Meeting started by brainycmurf at 20:43:20 UTC. The full logs are available at https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2022-07-05/workstation.2… . Meeting summary --------------- * Present members: Michael, Kalav, Neal, Matthias, Chris, Allan (brainycmurf, 20:43:34) * Guests: Jorge, Maira, Zac (brainycmurf, 20:43:34) * Regrets: Tomas, Luna (brainycmurf, 20:43:34) * Missing: Jens (brainycmurf, 20:43:34) * Secretary: Michael (brainycmurf, 20:43:34) * Drop flathub filtering (brainycmurf, 20:43:35) * LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/300 (brainycmurf, 20:43:37) * LINK: https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/rfc-build-tag-in-rpms-nvr-nvrb/39954 (brainycmurf, 20:44:06) * ACTION: : mclasen to talk to Milan about GNOME Software vendor preferences (brainycmurf, 20:44:10) * Adding Fedora toolbx as part of iso (brainycmurf, 20:44:27) * LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/320 (brainycmurf, 20:44:29) * AGREED: Ship toolbx (brainycmurf, 20:44:41) * ACTION: Kalev to update comps (brainycmurf, 20:44:43) * Move Fedora bookmarks to Fedora start page (brainycmurf, 20:44:45) * LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/313 (brainycmurf, 20:44:47) * ACTION: Neal will submit a pull request to reduce the quantity of bookmarks (brainycmurf, 20:45:17) * Improve GTK4 font rendering by default for 1080p displays (brainycmurf, 20:45:19) * LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/295 (brainycmurf, 20:45:21) * Announcements, Status Updates (brainycmurf, 20:45:25) * The minutes from last week have been posted. (brainycmurf, 20:45:27) * LINK: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2022-06-29/workstation.2… (brainycmurf, 20:45:29) Meeting ended at 20:45:36 UTC. Action Items ------------ * : mclasen to talk to Milan about GNOME Software vendor preferences * Kalev to update comps * Neal will submit a pull request to reduce the quantity of bookmarks Action Items, by person ----------------------- * **UNASSIGNED** * : mclasen to talk to Milan about GNOME Software vendor preferences * Kalev to update comps * Neal will submit a pull request to reduce the quantity of bookmarks People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * brainycmurf (60) * zodbot (7) * Allan (0) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.4 .. _`MeetBot`: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Zodbot#Meeting_Functions

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Workstation WG meeting, 5 July (secretary: Jens)
by Allan Day 05 Jul '22

05 Jul '22

Hi all, The next meeting of the Fedora Workstation Working Group is planned for Tuesday 5 July, at 9.30 EDT. Join links: - https://bluejeans.com/395383051/ - https://www.bluejeans.com/numbers See below for the agenda. Allan -- Agenda #topic Drop flathub filtering #link https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/300 #topic Adding Fedora toolbx as part of iso #link https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/320 #topic Move Fedora bookmarks to Fedora start page #link https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/313 #topic Improve GTK4 font rendering by default for 1080p displays #link https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/295 #topic Announcements, Status Updates #info The minutes from last week have been posted. #link https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2022-06-29/workstation.2…

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