On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 1:30 PM, Máirín Duffy duffy@fedoraproject.org wrote:
On 03/20/2013 12:07 PM, seth vidal wrote:
So the question is this:
Is the user installing Fedora or are they installing Gnome?
I think it is Fedora.
I think Fedora ships many desktops and we should get some precedence in the login screen that the user sees no matter which desktop they are using.
Here's another important & related question: When something goes wrong, who can help?
In the case of my family the answer is usually "me", as the person who installed Fedora on all these laptops. :) I also believe the System Monitor has a panel with more information specifically to help with situations like that, where it includes the distribution name, version, kernel and important hardware details.
If a user encounters an SELinux error, or a kernel oops, or their laptop stops suspending, or their network card is no longer recognized - is the GNOME community where they can go to get help? Is the GNOME community equipped to help them with those things? Should they file those bugs in GNOME bugzilla?
The OS is not GNOME. The OS is Fedora. Branding the OS as if it was GNOME isn't going to change the reality of the situation.
I don't think that's what's being discussed here. GNOME is not trying to remove Fedora logo in favor of a GNOME logo.
The goal of the redesigned login screen is, as far as I understand it, to provide a better user experience. Designing and going over every detail of the user experience is what the GNOME project does across all of its components, to the benefit of Fedora and all other distributors and users of GNOME. That includes the login screen, the activities overview, the settings panel, etc. By shipping GNOME and thousands of other packages as their creators originally intended is how Fedora accomplishes its goal of leading the advancement of open source and free software imo.
-- Evandro