On Wed, 2013-03-20 at 13:21 -0400, seth vidal wrote:
Here's my 2c take on it. GDM isn't the only Display manager. If the gnome project doesn't want to do what we want in terms of a logo on the DM then let's move to lightdm or one of the others and theme it however we want.
GDM isn't the only game in town and afaict we wouldn't even need to package something new, looks like lightdm and lxdm both exist and are maintained.
We don't want to require patches to lots of programs, of course, but in this case it is not about patching, afaict, it's about adding a different pkg by default and adding some theming to it.
Seems like a simpler win and would involve more designing of a theme and less arguing over various people's impression of cleanliness.
I would normally be ashamed and frustrated to the idea alone of replying to a message like this, but I will make myself an exception, because I feel it's important for me to say it.
I think this message of yours was rude, inflammatory and condescending. It's technically misinformed. It misses the entire point of this discussion. It moves the argument to a space where it can only die, or burst in an unproductive flame that will have no positive outcome other than making people more frustrated and less willing to engage in a serious conversation on this list in the future.
Communication and collaboration can be hard, and I think we can only succeed if we carefully weight what we're saying and respectfully consider the nature of people involved in a given discussion. I personally believe project leaders especially should realize this, and I am often saddened to observe that this is not the case in Fedora.
Regards, Cosimo