On 03/20/2013 03:26 PM, Colin Walters wrote:
On Wed, 2013-03-20 at 12:30 -0400, Máirín Duffy wrote:
On 03/20/2013 12:07 PM, seth vidal wrote:
So the question is this:
Is the user installing Fedora or are they installing Gnome?
I think it is Fedora.
I think Fedora ships many desktops and we should get some precedence in the login screen that the user sees no matter which desktop they are using.
Here's another important & related question: When something goes wrong, who can help?
This is absolutely right - branding is ultimately about *responsibility*. And if we're talking about responsibility, it's important to note that from the GPL:
This program is distributed in the hope that it will be useful, but WITHOUT ANY WARRANTY; without even the implied warranty of MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE. See the GNU General Public License for more details.
So if the question is "what entity is responsible for the gdm package", the answer really is ultimately neither GNOME, nor Fedora, nor Ray, nor any other entity.
There is no true responsibility - none of those above offer guarantees of service, nor can you take them to court for flaws in the software.
However, Fedora is presently the upstream for Red Hat Enterprise Linux, and that *is* an entity that takes responsibility for what it produces, and people pay actual money for that service. So we should take the ability of Red Hat Enterprise Linux to brand the complete system very seriously. At least in the form of making sure the relevant code works.
So...TL;DR: Let's figure out how to brand things in Fedora so that it works for Red Hat Enterprise Linux which does actually need it.
(I have no opinion on where the logo is or how big it is or whatever myself)
Just FYI, the dicussion about the logo positioning itself is still ongoing in the GNOME bugzilla:
https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=694912
cheers, ryanlerch