On Wed, 20 Mar 2013 12:30:01 -0400 Máirín Duffy duffy@fedoraproject.org wrote:
On 03/20/2013 12:07 PM, seth vidal wrote:
So the question is this:
Is the user installing Fedora or are they installing Gnome?
I think it is Fedora.
I think Fedora ships many desktops and we should get some precedence in the login screen that the user sees no matter which desktop they are using.
Here's another important & related question: When something goes wrong, who can help?
If a user encounters an SELinux error, or a kernel oops, or their laptop stops suspending, or their network card is no longer recognized - is the GNOME community where they can go to get help? Is the GNOME community equipped to help them with those things? Should they file those bugs in GNOME bugzilla?
The OS is not GNOME. The OS is Fedora. Branding the OS as if it was GNOME isn't going to change the reality of the situation.
Here's my 2c take on it. GDM isn't the only Display manager. If the gnome project doesn't want to do what we want in terms of a logo on the DM then let's move to lightdm or one of the others and theme it however we want.
GDM isn't the only game in town and afaict we wouldn't even need to package something new, looks like lightdm and lxdm both exist and are maintained.
We don't want to require patches to lots of programs, of course, but in this case it is not about patching, afaict, it's about adding a different pkg by default and adding some theming to it.
Seems like a simpler win and would involve more designing of a theme and less arguing over various people's impression of cleanliness.
-sv