On Mon, Nov 07, 2016 at 10:14:57AM -0500, Bastien Nocera wrote:
In which case the problem is that we don't consult with designers, or work on that branding work upstream. Case in point, our changes to the Details panel in Settings aren't upstream, nobody tested the performance impact of the logo watermark in gnome-shell.
I'm consuluting with designers.
I do agree that we should test the impact of any changes, for performance (if any affect), but also for overall UX and identifiablity.
It also seems bizarre to me that we would push that branding on Fedora Workstation, but not in other variants with a Fedora branded motd before login on the server variant for example.
Have you looked, here? Of course Fedora Server identifies itself at the login prompt. And the Cockpit GUI uses the Fedora Server logo. I think there's room for improvements in this too, but the basics are there.
Do we *actually* have a problem with Fedora being identified as such? In which sort of deployment do we have that problem?
It is important to increase Fedora brand reach and recognition. A strong visual identity is an important part of this. If you want to phrase it in terms of a "problem", every place where there is a Fedora deployment and it is not easily recognized as Fedora, we have that problem.
We already have branding in GRUB, in plymouth, in gdm, in the default wallpaper, in the Details panel. I'd rather we sent our stickers for laptop covers, and Windows keys, and toned down the branding on other parts of the OS, as well as investigated other possible branding (changing the default hostname, and .local name seem like no-brainer with no performance impact, and greater reach).
Although it's not nothing, branding which is only shown briefly at boot and when not logged in does not contribute strongly to the visual identity. Branding in the "details" panel, though, is arguably *worse* than nothing, as it sends the signal that Fedora is merely that, a "detail". And I think we already agreed that nobody likes the wallpaper overlay.
I'm all for investigating possibilities, especially ones which have no performance impact and reach. We should do everything we can, and we certainly *do* provides stickers and other Fedora swag. We need to work on the contrbutions of the desktop visual appearance to our brand identity as well.