On Mon 18 Mar 2013 05:54:42 PM EDT, Clyde E. Kunkel wrote:
I am not a programmer, but, that said, why can't you put a decent sized fedora logo above the users section. If the number of users exceeds a certain number, then create a window with a slider bar on the right. This just does not seem like rocket science. :-)
Isn't GNOME shell primarily designed as a single-user experience? How frequently are we expecting there to be a case where there are enough users in the list for a logo placed as suggested by Ray in comment 13 (https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=694912#c13)
I see a 'solution' looking for a problem here. The problem isn't the Fedora logo looks bad when given exactly 9 pixels of vertical space (what logo would?) The problem is... I'm really not sure what. Can you help me understand? I see this multi-monitor use related bug has been cited:
https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=685852
It says "The distribution logo is displayed in the middle above the list. This visually clashes with the layout of the rest of the login screen. It would be better to place the logo in the top-left hand corner of the screen, in the top bar. "
There is no screenshot, so I am unsure of how it 'visually clashes' with the rest of the login screen, and I'm not sure what it has to do with multi-monitor, if anything. A GNOME wiki link is provided, which I clicked on (https://live.gnome.org/Boston2012/Multimonitor) and found the exact same text:
"The distribution logo is displayed in the middle above the list. This visually clashes with the layout of the rest of the login screen. It would be better to place the logo in the top-left hand corner of the screen, in the top bar. #685852"
Please help me understand what exactly the problem is here? From the thread on devel-list about improving the boot experience, my understanding of the problem was:
1) The logos are not consistent between GDM and Plymouth. And they aren't, 100% agreed. Plymouth uses the logomark only, GDM uses the logotype+logomark. Their balance and general shape and size are inconsistent, and there's no reason they need to be. We could use the same version of the logo in both places.
2) The logos do not transition smoothly from Plymouth to GDM. Again, agreed 100%. If we used the same consistent version of the logo and used a consistent placement, one would fade into the other in the Plymouth-to-GDM transition, and this would be improved.
I am at a total loss as to how making the logo 9 pixels tall and shoving it in the upper left corner in both Plymouth and GDM is necessary to solve the above two problems. Why not have a 45x45 px version of the logomark only halfway between the clock and the top of the users list (again, as suggested by Ray) and have the same placement in plymouth? Then you would get consistency and a smooth transition.
Removing the logo completely and replacing it with a string is completely unacceptable from a Fedora point of view, and I'm very surprised this is the suggested solution if the problem is #1 and #2 above. If there is some other problem-to-solve that I am missing here that necessitates complete removal of the logo from the operating system, please let's talk about it so we can work on a solution together.
~m