On Sun, Oct 23, 2016 at 09:06:22AM -0500, Michael Catanzaro wrote:
We've already decided that updates cannot be done safely without at least one reboot, so let's not bother with requests to remove that. We
I think that's missing some nuance. We've decided that it's very hard to do safely without a reboot, and currently no one is invested in making it safer or less hard. We've got a lot of different problems to solve, so it makes sense to focus on the ones that users really care about. We've made the call that the current reboot situation combined with "hey, off the books, you can run dnf update and deal with any possible problems yourself" is good enough.
If we keep hearing from users that it *isn't* good enough, that the reboot is causing meaningful user pain — or, "No pain, but I don't ever update my system" — we should listen rather than "not bother".