On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 11:37 PM, Matthias Clasen mclasen@redhat.com wrote:
On Mon, 2011-09-19 at 20:58 +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote:
Maybe except for the fact that Fedora appears willing to ignore the issues that previously mattered.
It is not a Fedora issue, really. GNOME is moving to depend on tracker. Letting it linger as an optional dependency for another few years is realistically not going help things along. Do you have any better idea for how to make progress on getting the necessary infrastructure fixes in place, other than using the stuff ?
Correct, its not a Fedora issue but its not going to help Fedora's cause if on most new installs it burns CPU and makes the end users experience horrible. Having initially dealt with tracker when packaging both rygel and moblin it has the same problems back in Fedora 12 and I got hate mail, and from memory bug reports from Lennart (the bug report was Lennart, not the mail) about the issues and upstream weren't overly interested in fixing them so the solution was to make the dependency optional. I like the principal behind tracker (and beagle before it) but if in the short term the problem isn't going to result in Fedora being usable (and yes, I'm aware initial indexing is always going to be a problem, but it needs to detect a fresh install and not grind the machine for 3 hours to know the current user has nothing in their home directory external media - that's what it did on my fresh install no media netbook) for the vast majority of users we need to make it optional for F-16 and re-review it because ultimately end users won't tolerate it and will walk with their feet elsewhere, just like they have from Ubuntu to Fedora because they don't like Unity. We don't want all the new Power Users to leave 6 months after they've arrived.
Peter