Hi,
In the last few weeks, I have been using swfdec in rawhide and it has been working quite well for my limited usage. Should we include swfdec by default in rawhide for Fedora 11 right after the Fedora 10 release?
At the very least, directing more feedback towards improving it, by having it as default would be good regardless of whether it is mature enough for Fedora 11 release yet. It is one of the last pieces of proprietary software that almost everyone ends up using in Linux. Comments?
Rahul
Rahul Sundaram (sundaram@fedoraproject.org) said:
In the last few weeks, I have been using swfdec in rawhide and it has been working quite well for my limited usage. Should we include swfdec by default in rawhide for Fedora 11 right after the Fedora 10 release?
Well, we tried it before and weren't very successful. It may be worth trying again, and just throwing every single flash site in existence at it to see what dies.
Bill
Bill Nottingham wrote:
Rahul Sundaram (sundaram@fedoraproject.org) said:
In the last few weeks, I have been using swfdec in rawhide and it has been working quite well for my limited usage. Should we include swfdec by default in rawhide for Fedora 11 right after the Fedora 10 release?
Well, we tried it before and weren't very successful. It may be worth trying again, and just throwing every single flash site in existence at it to see what dies.
Yes, I am aware we tried before but the situation seems substantial improved to me, now.
Can you post the list of flash sites, we tried with before? If users have (esp popular ) sites, that aren't working yet, that list would be very useful as well.
Rahul
On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 12:50 PM, Rahul Sundaram sundaram@fedoraproject.org wrote:
Hi,
In the last few weeks, I have been using swfdec in rawhide and it has been working quite well for my limited usage. Should we include swfdec by default in rawhide for Fedora 11 right after the Fedora 10 release?
At the very least, directing more feedback towards improving it, by having it as default would be good regardless of whether it is mature enough for Fedora 11 release yet. It is one of the last pieces of proprietary software that almost everyone ends up using in Linux. Comments?
My main concern with this is how it affects the installation experience of the proprietary plugin. Right now Swfdec claims the same plugin name, if you have them both installed I think it basically just breaks. Needs investigation anyways.
On Thu, Nov 06, 2008 at 12:26:27AM +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
Bill Nottingham wrote:
Rahul Sundaram (sundaram@fedoraproject.org) said:
In the last few weeks, I have been using swfdec in rawhide and it has been working quite well for my limited usage. Should we include swfdec by default in rawhide for Fedora 11 right after the Fedora 10 release?
Well, we tried it before and weren't very successful. It may be worth trying again, and just throwing every single flash site in existence at it to see what dies.
Yes, I am aware we tried before but the situation seems substantial improved to me, now.
Can you post the list of flash sites, we tried with before? If users have (esp popular ) sites, that aren't working yet, that list would be very useful as well.
I made a post a few days ago that mentioned that other than youtube, I haven't found many sites that work at all.
Since then, I was actually pleasantly surprised that the CNN election map widget worked last night, so it's not complete loss. Sites that use flash as UI widgets seem to mostly work these days.
Where it seems to still really fall over though are sites that stream media (be that video, audio or both). For some reason the code that was implemented for making youtube work isn't universal enough that other sites 'just work'. Maybe it just needs some small tweaks. Off the top of my head, sites I found that don't work -
vimeo.com ovi.com myspace.com ustream.tv (spectacular fail!) justin.tv (more awesome fail!) cnn.com (any of the video news stories) news.bbc.co.uk (same) finance.google.com (click the graph)
There's probably a bunch of others that I tried that failed, but I'd have to go power up my mac to dig out the bookmarks to find the rest.
Dave
On Thu, 2008-11-06 at 00:26 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
Bill Nottingham wrote:
Rahul Sundaram (sundaram@fedoraproject.org) said:
In the last few weeks, I have been using swfdec in rawhide and it has been working quite well for my limited usage. Should we include swfdec by default in rawhide for Fedora 11 right after the Fedora 10 release?
Well, we tried it before and weren't very successful. It may be worth trying again, and just throwing every single flash site in existence at it to see what dies.
Yes, I am aware we tried before but the situation seems substantial improved to me, now.
Can you post the list of flash sites, we tried with before? If users have (esp popular ) sites, that aren't working yet, that list would be very useful as well.
Here are a few that I visit that are very popular, or you would think, that it doesn't work for..
http://espn.go.com/ http://www.cnn.com/ (at least their videos anyway) http://www.dallascowboys.com (maybe not as popular, don't know but at least are in sports land)
Just to name a few...
Rahul Sundaram (sundaram@fedoraproject.org) said:
Yes, I am aware we tried before but the situation seems substantial improved to me, now.
Can you post the list of flash sites, we tried with before? If users have (esp popular ) sites, that aren't working yet, that list would be very useful as well.
There was a test matrix for F9 on the wiki, and bugs filed in bugzilla.
Bill
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