Hi all,
What do you think about a sound or music when your gnome ok kde desktop is starting? It's just an idea :-)
Regards,
Damien Durand
tor, 17 08 2006 kl. 23:19 +0200, skrev Damien Durand:
Hi all,
What do you think about a sound or music when your gnome ok kde desktop is starting? It's just an idea :-)
Not by default at least, it would add to startup time and general annoyance - it's hard to find sounds that please everyone if not impossible. Now I'm all for say collecting a package of nice sutle sounds that the user can install for some audio feedback but I don't see the case for enabling it by default.
In my experience most users who want this will add soundclips from the internet of say their favorite cartoon or something like that. I doubt we'll gain much by forcing a default "bling sound" on everyone.
- David
David Nielsen wrote:
tor, 17 08 2006 kl. 23:19 +0200, skrev Damien Durand:
Hi all,
What do you think about a sound or music when your gnome ok kde desktop is starting? It's just an idea :-)
Not by default at least, it would add to startup time and general annoyance - it's hard to find sounds that please everyone if not impossible.
The same can be said about artwork for example. That by itself isnt a good argument.
Now I'm all for say collecting a package of nice sutle
sounds that the user can install for some audio feedback but I don't see the case for enabling it by default.
In my experience most users who want this will add soundclips from the internet of say their favorite cartoon or something like that. I doubt we'll gain much by forcing a default "bling sound" on everyone.
We would only "force" sounds as much as we force a wallpaper or a window manager theme on everyone. Without good (defined as not being too long, jazzy etc) default sounds this particular functionality wouldnt even be realized by the user.
I for one wouldnt mind seeing a few different sound themes available in Fedora Core with one of them enabled by default.
Rahul
fre, 18 08 2006 kl. 03:16 +0530, skrev Rahul:
David Nielsen wrote:
tor, 17 08 2006 kl. 23:19 +0200, skrev Damien Durand:
Hi all,
What do you think about a sound or music when your gnome ok kde desktop is starting? It's just an idea :-)
Not by default at least, it would add to startup time and general annoyance - it's hard to find sounds that please everyone if not impossible.
The same can be said about artwork for example. That by itself isnt a good argument.
Now I'm all for say collecting a package of nice sutle
sounds that the user can install for some audio feedback but I don't see the case for enabling it by default.
In my experience most users who want this will add soundclips from the internet of say their favorite cartoon or something like that. I doubt we'll gain much by forcing a default "bling sound" on everyone.
We would only "force" sounds as much as we force a wallpaper or a window manager theme on everyone. Without good (defined as not being too long, jazzy etc) default sounds this particular functionality wouldnt even be realized by the user.
I for one wouldnt mind seeing a few different sound themes available in Fedora Core with one of them enabled by default.
I take it you haven't been in cubical hell when someone hasn't turned his builtin speakers off and the Windows startup sound goes off - or in class when the same thing happens.
Artwork doesn't generally annoy passersby, collegues or classmates, sound can very easily.
Now I'm in no way against showing off by assembling some cool packages of sounds that we can do it, but by default I'd prefer silence.
- David
No, definitely, no sound by default, after all Open Soft is all about Free Choice
I don't want any reminescence of the "blue screen of Death" ;-))
Cheers Marco
On 17/08/06, David Nielsen david@lovesunix.net wrote:
fre, 18 08 2006 kl. 03:16 +0530, skrev Rahul:
David Nielsen wrote:
tor, 17 08 2006 kl. 23:19 +0200, skrev Damien Durand:
Hi all,
What do you think about a sound or music when your gnome ok kde desktop is starting? It's just an idea :-)
Not by default at least, it would add to startup time and general annoyance - it's hard to find sounds that please everyone if not impossible.
The same can be said about artwork for example. That by itself isnt a good argument.
Now I'm all for say collecting a package of nice sutle
sounds that the user can install for some audio feedback but I don't see the case for enabling it by default.
In my experience most users who want this will add soundclips from the internet of say their favorite cartoon or something like that. I doubt we'll gain much by forcing a default "bling sound" on everyone.
We would only "force" sounds as much as we force a wallpaper or a window manager theme on everyone. Without good (defined as not being too long, jazzy etc) default sounds this particular functionality wouldnt even be realized by the user.
I for one wouldnt mind seeing a few different sound themes available in Fedora Core with one of them enabled by default.
I take it you haven't been in cubical hell when someone hasn't turned his builtin speakers off and the Windows startup sound goes off - or in class when the same thing happens.
Artwork doesn't generally annoy passersby, collegues or classmates, sound can very easily.
Now I'm in no way against showing off by assembling some cool packages of sounds that we can do it, but by default I'd prefer silence.
- David
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David Nielsen wrote:
I take it you haven't been in cubical hell when someone hasn't turned his builtin speakers off and the Windows startup sound goes off - or in class when the same thing happens.
Working on odd timings like 4 AM in the morning has the advantage that there is noone around to complain about sounds ;-)
Artwork doesn't generally annoy passersby, collegues or classmates, sound can very easily.
Right, which is why I noted that the default sound set shouldnt be jazzy.
Now I'm in no way against showing off by assembling some cool packages of sounds that we can do it, but by default I'd prefer silence.
The problem with just shipping sounds but not enabling them is that end users wouldnt stumble upon this feature easily.
On 8/17/06, Rahul sundaram@redhat.com wrote:
Right, which is why I noted that the default sound set shouldnt be jazzy.
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There is no definition of 'subtle' or 'tasteful' for automated default sounds which is appropriate in any public setting. An ugly wallpaper by default is not a distraction to someone in a study area or in a meeting. Any default startup or desktop action sounds are an airborne disease whose infection rate can be substantially amplified by external, amplified speakers. While I personally yearn for the day where eye-candy fanatics can violate the visual senses of everyone in a 500 foot radius as easily as someone with their wall AC powered 5.1 speaker upgrade from Dell with a volume knob that goes to 11 can shatter my eardrums with the ever-so-soft tinkle of a desktop startup melody... that day isn't here just yet so everyone's retinas are safe. Our eardrums are not... subtle tones of a not-to-jazzy nature are still a public nuisance. Support my ballot measure to end unnecessary desktop noise pollution, vote yes on measure 123!
-jef"make the default desktop have a vibrate mode instead, that way when laptops are used in the manner assumed in their naming...everyone would prefer vibrate"spaleta
On 17 August 2006, at 16:46, Rahul wrote:
The same can be said about artwork for example. That by itself isnt a good argument.
We would only "force" sounds as much as we force a wallpaper or a window manager theme on everyone.
Well, people will think something's missing if you have no wallpaper, and you certainly have to have a window manager theme!!
Without good (defined as not being too long, jazzy etc) default sounds this particular functionality wouldnt even be realized by the user.
True.
I for one wouldnt mind seeing a few different sound themes available in Fedora Core with one of them enabled by default.
Yes. I like Mac OS X' occasional subtle sounds. They are quite quiet (say that 15 times fast!) and unobtrusive - a crumpling paper when you empty the trash, a whoosh when you send mail, etc... I think subtle would be the way to go, so people know that the functionality exists, but don't deafen/scare them. :)
Rahul
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I would highly suggest a 12 gauge. If it doesn't take care of the noise the second shot will.
Dave
On Thu, 2006-08-17 at 23:19 +0200, Damien Durand wrote:
Hi all,
What do you think about a sound or music when your gnome ok kde desktop is starting? It's just an idea :-)
Regards,
Damien Durand
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Damien Durand wrote:
Hi all,
What do you think about a sound or music when your gnome ok kde desktop is starting? It's just an idea :-)
Regards,
Damien Durand
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It does in ubuntu and I like it very much. It also does it in Windows XP and its never been changed, so I preclude that M$ finds the decision appropriate.
It's not fatal if someone doesn't like it right ? ( we should learn to relax more )
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