hi all I've just read christian's fedora workstation update article. This got me thinking. I would like to, if possible, have by fedora 24, at least a basic level of functioning accessibility for xdg-app compliant applications. I'll be happy to work with upstream or fedora developers directly and do as much work as I can to improve this. I seem to recall some talk about this on the mailing list to the equivalent of there needs to be some redesign of the accessibility stack to improve accessibility. While I believe this is extremely important, I think it is more important to get accessibility working with the apps first, and then focus on the redesign, possibly to be ready by f25 or f26? I'm not an accessibility developer in the sense that I write code. I am, however, a passionate open source advocate despite my occasional rants and my long silences as I try to juggle accessibility improvements for all the major desktops on my own, gnome, mate, cinnamon. Michael katanzaro and bastian nosira help me out a lot on the gnome end, but no one else on those other desktops does so I'm left to file the bugs and so on. i have not actually tested xdg compliant apps. Can someone with vision attempt this with orca, magnifier, onscreen keyboard, etc? If we're going to do this, we need to do it right so that accessibility support is equal among the various tools. Thanks Kendell clark